=== ANCHOR POEM === ══════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────── #solarpunk An app that listed all the tasks that needed to be done in a city and people could just do whichever they wanted. Like "water this planter box of carrots" or "prune this tree" or whatever. Specialists who knew the requirements of plants could set up tasks and workflows like project managers and set up recurring requirements - like "water every day for 90 days then harvest" or whatever. They could also look for disease or pests and assign treatment plans as necessary. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────┘ === SIMILARITY RANKED === --- #1 fediverse/3840 --- ╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌────────────────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: socialism-recycling-mentioned2 │ │ ║ └────────────────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ oh, I just heard about this project over in west kansatexahoma for a massive │ ║ solar panel installation. Apparently they're doing some water purification │ ║ with the excess energy too? │ ║ │ ║ "that sounds pretty interesting, but I was thinking I could do something in │ ║ the area?" │ ║ │ ║ ah, that's fine too. The good news is that you can do whatever you'd like to. │ ║ there will be training provided for everything and nobody is turned away, │ ║ so... what would you like to do? │ ║ │ ║ "I'm not really sure. What needs doing?" │ ║ │ ║ well, there are several categories of tasks that need to be done. │ ║ │ ║ food, housing, maintenance, and logistics. │ ║ │ ║ depending on your skillset, you can contribute to each of those in different │ ║ ways. You were in recycling before, which is logistics. │ ║ │ ║ "Hmmm, I'm feeling housing this time." │ ║ │ ║ Right, that's easy enough. You wanted to use your brain, right? Well, how │ ║ about an event coordinator? Or maybe an environmental designer? │ ║ │ ║ "Hmmm, I don't really want to work with people" │ ║ │ ║ I see. Architect, maybe? │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────┴──────────┘ --- #2 messages/527 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────── could give us some experience organizing small, short-term projects to accomplish specific goals and tasks in an ad-hoc way that relied less upon procedure and more on "I think so-and-so knows something about that, they were looking into those files and posted a breakdown of how they work yesterday" ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────┘ --- #3 fediverse/5834 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────── would you feet a cat at your door? how about a crow? would you water a dying plant? (don't, they get waterlogged if the soil is already moist) what if a dear what if dear food what if bear what if bear food what if dogpack what if dogpackfoodtearchompbitepullsavor I'd feeeed my self but dollars and errands are hard : ( ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────┘ --- #4 messages/1393 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─ What if, in addition to "trash and recycling" what if there was also "give to the hobos" where they just cart it off to the slum side of town where people can slum it up to their hearts content without worrying about stuff. All they own is what they see, but none of it can ever leave. Except what you carry with you. Everyone's incentivized to make it nice because everyone has the same stuff - alike in use, not design. Is it common? To remember more than a couple weeks at a time? Humans work too hard. Humans deserve good thijnz. Let's work to fix both of those things. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════┘ --- #5 fediverse/2864 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: organizational-structure-to-try-out-for-funsies │ │ ║ └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ teams of 7ish tasked with accomplishing some organizational goal │ ║ │ ║ more specific details can be given if necessary, and any related │ ║ communications are stored. │ ║ │ ║ then they just... work on the problem, and vote for things by picking a │ ║ representative to discuss on the higher tier. like, a team-lead or manager. │ ║ │ ║ then, all the managers, of which their voted-for is one of, vote for a │ ║ representative of their department. etc... │ ║ │ ║ if teams need resources, they utilize the funds given to them by their manager │ ║ arguing on their behalf for their shared goals. basically, if you want │ ║ resources, you need to ask for them, and they'll come if you can demonstrate │ ║ you need them. │ ║ │ ║ also, │ ║ reduction of waste is like... negative resources that improve the amounts that │ ║ you can use for other projects. so if your team needs more stuff, try reducing │ ║ your consumption instead of asking for more. │ ║ │ ║ at all times, the authority and discretion is held by the human. │ ║ │ ║ at all times, no other can compel. │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────┴──────────┘ --- #6 fediverse/1095 --- ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: not-a-profess │ │ ║ └──────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ One way to become involved in your passion projects is to contact them and say │ ║ "hey, if you ever want to do [idea about one of their products] let me know │ ║ because I want to be a part of it" │ ║ │ ║ maybe even y'know say it in a public place so people can see what we're all │ ║ interested in │ ║ │ ║ could make like, a forum for it, just like "hey here's my idea" and if enough │ ║ people like it then they can ALL be involved in a project to build it, │ ║ open-source style but funded collectively. │ ║ │ ║ like "hey I'll stick with my day job and maybe do some icons or something" and │ ║ in return their progress is supported. │ ║ │ ║ everyone's gotta pay rent, and if you work in the tech industry you tend to │ ║ have a lot of dollars. Could maybe design some ways to build products │ ║ collectively, ways that financially don't rely on charity. │ ║ │ ║ Idk I'd just like to work on a product that was designed to be as usable as │ ║ possible? Are there any companies out there doing that? │ ║ │ ║ [oh yes all of them silly me how could I forget how wonderful software can be] │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────┴──────────┘ --- #7 fediverse/200 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────── congratulations, you never need to adventure again. your necessities are taken care of. ah, but that'd make for a pretty boring life, wouldn't it? perhaps, depending on your personality type. but you're not one to stick around doing nothing but eating, drinking, and being merry. no, you're an adventurer, you crave excitement and glory. whatever that means to you... just make sure a goblin doesn't come across your corpse, they have a VERY short term memory and a propensity for collecting shiny things. That's just asking for dragon-bait, and we don't want that in our area, no thank you. This is a nice neighborhood you see, my neighbors three miles away all agree, so you can take your magic pocket and see all that you can see... way over yonder, if you please. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #8 fediverse/5478 --- ╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────┐ ║ you won't get far with a "community" of dedicated people │ ║ │ ║ what you need are teams. who can trust each other. you build them through │ ║ brotherhood, and you trust them from their results. │ ║ │ ║ for example if you wanted to organize a grouping or get-together, you'd put a │ ║ bunch of people in a room or seven and let them while they're there work on a │ ║ plan or a decision. │ ║ │ ║ who needs tabling? who needs the chance to speak? just let them socialize and │ ║ say "hey guys here's where you'll plan" │ ║ │ ║ [uh no officer we were just playing board games] │ ║ │ ║ plans are hard without material so make sure you always prepare a pricetag on │ ║ each plan you produce. │ ║ │ ║ keep it for reference. make sure you note all the requirements. the location │ ║ is often the least important part. │ ║ │ ║ "what the hell man you can't just say stuff like that as if it'd work" │ ║ │ ║ yep, I, uh, am a passenger in life just the same as you. And I only write down │ ║ what I want to. │ ║ │ ║ you could show me anything on the internet and I'd believe it. Facts aren't │ ║ important to me because I "forget" │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──┴──────────┘ --- #9 messages/1392 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─ It's good organization? Actually? If something falls when you jostle something else. It means that what you're doing is causing the system to become unstable, thus allowing unexpected reactions to allowenable. Like stuff falling or getting dropped, not ideal. much better to do your cable management in mind with instability as a goal, like a canary in the coal mine for "damage-imminent". Design for permanence, not resilience. If you can prevent problems before they occur by confidently saying "no" and ideally earnestly saying "here's what you do to resolve your problem because i know better" (but if you don't know it's okay, especially if you know who to refer them to who might know better.) then it's easier to build a repetitive system. Like an institution of people who are working to fix a problem or fill a social gap need. "how do we keep the water" or "where does our food come from" can be helpful and useful questions to ask, especially if work is done to answer them. So... "Go find out" is a reasonable response for an idle question about stuff that might go right or wrong. Urgent questions might need a bit of cooperation to resolve, triaging of course. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════┘ --- #10 fediverse/1204 --- ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────┐ ║ @user-883 │ ║ │ ║ the future is what we make for ourselves. │ ║ │ ║ there are endless problems to solve, yet hardly anyone around to fix them. │ ║ │ ║ If only we had a small group of people who could organize and say "hey. I need │ ║ someone to solve this particular problem" to a large group of people with │ ║ nothing to do and no bills to pay, I feel like we could get a lot done. │ ║ │ ║ alas, the problems that need solving are too specific and complex. Almost by │ ║ design, they've stripped us our capabilities to address the difficulties they │ ║ hoisted upon us. Alas! That we should be so morassed. But time and again our │ ║ ingenuity compels us. │ ║ │ ║ I dream of a world where people like you and I have a purpose, something we │ ║ can apply ourselves to and eventually overcome. I subscribe to "grand │ ║ narratives", but frankly they're only of my own design. Does that make them │ ║ any less grand? I think not. │ ║ │ ║ If I knew enough people perhaps I could be like that. I could direct and │ ║ organize and administer and manage and apply our guys. But alas I am just a │ ║ noob sigh. │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────┴──────────┘ --- #11 fediverse/5915 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────── washing dishes without a dishwasher is a pain in the neck. nobody cuts down trees with an axe anymore, a chainsaw is better for your back. It's nice, fun, and helpful to be able to abstract away your spheres of concern like typing with a single button instead of writing characters with multiple brushstrokes. Easy to erase, too! bikes are better than walking, but, with some extra concerns. where are ya gonna put it when you get there? "oh no I forgot how to walk because texting my girlfriend is bicycling or something" what? oh dear, she's run off track again, let's pick her up and put her upright again..: oh huh weird where was I - oh yes computer code can often be impenetrable to the layperson, but if you describe a program in complete detail in english they can usually follow along. Especially if you have several layers of meta-descriptional documents so they can say "oh uh-huh so that's what a vector_implementation_container is, tell me more about combinatrix" or whatever ppl say, idk ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────┘ --- #12 fediverse/3082 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────── ┌─────────────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: states-mentioned-climate-change │ └─────────────────────────────────────┘ the government doesn't want you using solar panels because then the coal and gas infrastructure won't be able to consume coal and gas, and everyone knows that using resources as fast as possible is surely the best and most productive use of our state's time like, subsidies exist. they could just... make it cheaper, but instead they're stuck doing... nothing of value ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────┘ --- #13 fediverse/1533 --- ╔════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: dead-birds │ │ ║ └──────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ if you set out food for animals consistently, then more of them can live in │ ║ the area. │ ║ │ ║ but if you move across the state and take your bird feeder with you, the birds │ ║ will die. │ ║ │ ║ well, birds can fly, rabbits and chickens and squirrels are not so lucky. │ ║ birds might not die. though there is overall less food in the area, so they │ ║ might still die. │ ║ │ ║ when I was a kid, growing up in suburbia I used to see rabbits EVERYWHERE. My │ ║ cat would hunt them. I would run around with them. Now I see but a few. │ ║ │ ║ Rabbits eat grass, right? We sure do use a lot of pesticides on our immaculate │ ║ lawns. Or at least, the one neighbor three doors down does, and it's a free │ ║ country after all. │ ║ │ ║ explain to me again why we can't leave a trail of chopped up carrots behind │ ║ our lawn mowers? Why we can't spread seeds on our trails, or fill basins with │ ║ water? │ ║ │ ║ ... yeah, none of that makes money. All of it requires consistent persistent │ ║ effort. And it's not like our media glorifies it, what a shame it would be to │ ║ hold nature in our palms. │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────┴──────────┘ --- #14 fediverse/3567 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────── ┌───────────────────────────┐ │ CW: pol-tential-economics │ └───────────────────────────┘ "oh you want to open a store? Great, we have several empty spots in the mall down the street. Here's a list of resources, including a github repo where you can download an inventory management program that is fully set up and configured for most basic needs, and a hotline number for the local Worker's Guild where you can get in touch with some people to help stock the shelves and man the counter in exchange for the chance to meet some of The People ^tm, and the contact details of suppliers who can get you some of the goods you're selling - what did you say you were selling? Uhhuh lemme just write that down... Okay perfect I have all I need. Do you have any questions for me?" "yeah, uh... how much do I have to pay?" "... Pay? like, with dollars? I'm sorry I don't understand the question, who would you be paying?" "uh, for the place? for the goods? for the workers? for the rent?" "Those are all things that are classified as a public need. People need goods, and you want to help them. " ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────┘ --- #15 fediverse/4092 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────── why not make a unified fediverse identity that can post on whatever instance it wants? ... hmmm could be accomplished with a layer of abstraction. You could use a "fediverse client" software to enter text into an HTML page which would have it's own UI and stuff and would organize your accounts and instances such that you could mark like, 3-7 as places you'd like to put a particular message. Then it would just... do it l m a o spam is gonna get sooooo much worse before it gets better but trust me, we'll figure it out. And it won't be long, either. It's a solvable problem, we just haven't built anything to handle it yet. ... yet... ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────┘ --- #16 fediverse/1726 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────── tell me again why goods and services are priced according to how easy they are to make, and not by how many more of them we could make considering the current estimated amount of resources on earth? even wood runs out, when the phosphorous is gone. but take heart, for human ingenuity brings with it ever-increasing capabilities for accessing new resources. when the sun goes silent, it will not be because it burnt out, but rather because we surrounded it with parts of our home. and yes, it is more complicated. "how easy they are to make compared to how much people want them while utilizing the cheapest and worst resources and craftsmanship that can be passed of as quality by shiny marketing that appeals to our vapid human senses" is a bit closer, but still not comprehensive. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┘ --- #17 messages/954 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────── Simple things to do to reform or blunt the pain of capitalism if you are a mayor, governor, or other body with political power: 1. Pay people for their commutes. Demand that jobs offer payment to people for getting to the workplace, and don't let them work you more than 8 hours (including commute) unless you're given overtime pay. But do let them discriminate based on how far away you live. That's okay because it directly financially affects them and is therefore a strategic decision. Plus, you can move closer maybe. 2. Consider closing car lanes and adding bike lanes. Depending on the location, this can do wonders for city enrichment. 3. Universal basic income, just to give people breathing room. 4. Give people 10$ for showing up at a park every week on Sunday or whatever. Encourage them to hang around and talk to people. 5. Build a fediverse instance for the neighborhood/city/state/country and give everyone a unified account on all of them. Don't let them browse other regions, but if they have friends elsewhere they should be able to see what they say. 6. Put your laws or code or whatever legal or political documents you use into a git repository, and include the full change-log as commits with the date either simulated, or added as a comment at the top or something. 7. Bolster small business and charge scaling taxes of any kind to large businesses. Encourage economies of scale to utilize their scale to lower production costs in order to sell more product rather than sell the same product and enrich their owners. 8. Subsidize or sponsor people to make in-home workshops and gardens. Develop ways for them to sell their wares with minimal effort - trucks that drive by and pick up standardized packages with price-tags and take them to a central market? 9. Build infrastructure that hosts a website for every address. Let the current occupants do whatever they want with it. 10. Grow plants. Brb my water is boiling ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────┘ --- #18 fediverse/3222 --- ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────┐ ║ sometimes I set out a glass of water in the hopes that it might increase │ ║ precipitation downwind by a billionth of a percent │ ║ │ ║ I wonder what would happen if everyone did so? │ ║ │ ║ makes me want to design some kind of system which utilizes pumps, platters, │ ║ and fans to hydrate the atmosphere just a bit more │ ║ │ ║ rain + soil = solace in our home │ ║ rain + dirt = erosion of our planet's earth │ ║ │ ║ did you know that the plant which absorbs the most carbon per square foot is │ ║ moss? I think the fastest is bamboo, and the most efficient in general is soil. │ ║ │ ║ I dream of a world where we sit atop a mile of soil, down to the depths of the │ ║ earth where dirt and minerals prosper. The roots of the trees fuse together, │ ║ creating a wooden bed which we all rest upon, and the mountain peaks are │ ║ hollowed out to serve as our forever homes, full of light and moss and stone. │ ║ │ ║ this is the world I yearn for - the most resplendent timeline, with marble │ ║ statues and gilded chandeliers in our cavernous mountain homes. │ ║ │ ║ {but like on other planets too, right?} │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────┴──────────┘ --- #19 fediverse/434 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────── @user-324 @user-325 @user-326 thus enters the promise of technology: that we might solve the problems of bureaucracy once and for all by ever more effiency-aligning mechanical processes that produce effects which we desire - such as efficient allocation of medical resources such that all of humanity is protected from the ravages of pain and the incongruencies of our nature. Alas, that we should only conceive of success through the lens of profit. Perhaps another design is in order? (oh yeah also people who are in control are worried that we, like all other examples of natural entities, might immediately proceed to breed beyond the capability to cater to the needs of said entity (such as "to feed" and medical resources) and therefore might overburden (and therefore destroy) said system which allows for their sustenance and initial creation. To this I say... Yeah probs, what should we do about it?) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #20 notes/governmental-priorities --- ═════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────────────── the first priority of a government should be in producing enough to satisfy all the needs of it's inhabitants. Once it can do that it can begin moving it's economy into a new stage of development - one where nobody needs any money because they can have whatever they want. If you want a car, sure. If you want 17 cars, then maaaaaaybe you need to produce something related to cars. I mean, it's only fair that you contribute to what you value. you don't have to have just one job, too, you could sign yourself up for several at once and they would notify you when you were needed. Basically giving them customized availabilities that they could discuss amongst themselves and figure out. Like, it doesn't have to be like... managers doing this, more like just a simple computer program. Easy, simple, and done. if you work for two companies in the same industry, there can be NO restrictions on what you can say or do. Because when knowledge is not lost, but repeated through the generations, we can have progress. And progress advances us toward the meta objective, the goal that transcends all the battles in the war, if you get my drift. they say the atom bomb ended the war, but the blood of men is what won it. maybe it's the same with the economy? Maybe we should be pooling our efforts to generate something that "ends the war" with scarcity? We could solve global warming and create new wondrous things that are beautiful to behold. I'll ask you again, do you want to live forever? ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────────┘ |