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║ oh, I just heard about this project over in west kansatexahoma for a massive │
║ solar panel installation. Apparently they're doing some water purification │
║ with the excess energy too? │
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║ "that sounds pretty interesting, but I was thinking I could do something in │
║ the area?" │
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║ ah, that's fine too. The good news is that you can do whatever you'd like to. │
║ there will be training provided for everything and nobody is turned away, │
║ so... what would you like to do? │
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║ "I'm not really sure. What needs doing?" │
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║ well, there are several categories of tasks that need to be done. │
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║ food, housing, maintenance, and logistics. │
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║ depending on your skillset, you can contribute to each of those in different │
║ ways. You were in recycling before, which is logistics. │
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║ "Hmmm, I'm feeling housing this time." │
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║ Right, that's easy enough. You wanted to use your brain, right? Well, how │
║ about an event coordinator? Or maybe an environmental designer? │
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║ "Hmmm, I don't really want to work with people" │
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║ I see. Architect, maybe? │
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#solarpunk
An app that listed all the tasks that needed to be done in a city and people
could just do whichever they wanted. Like "water this planter box of carrots"
or "prune this tree" or whatever.
Specialists who knew the requirements of plants could set up tasks and
workflows like project managers and set up recurring requirements - like
"water every day for 90 days then harvest" or whatever. They could also look
for disease or pests and assign treatment plans as necessary.
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@user-641
it's practice. you never know when you might need to blend in. really it's
just useful as discipline, good practice to be in. I think it's okay if we
reduce our own functionality? actually? sometimes it's good to use different
email clients. hey do you know how to mathematically encrypt things well
neither do I because the designers of the computer system decided that wasn't
a very common usecase I guess.. jmean it's not like they'd spend all that
computer resources [THEY'RE SO FAST] on thinking about correlations in your
predicted pathway narratively through life. "ah help I'm in a psyop" haha yeah
we do those all the time "so uhhhh I guess we'll just talk to people and see
how they do?" wow okay it's sure nice to be part of a civil government, I
think we can find our way to the lumber producers just fine thank you very
much.
... oops sorry, a baby did electronics arts (challenge everything) I'm a
little silly don't mind me brb I gotta go see~
![it's practice. you never know when you might need to blend in. really it's just useful as discipline, good practice to be in. I think it's okay if we reduce our own functionality? actually? sometimes it's good to use different email clients. hey do you know how to mathematically encrypt things well neither do I because the designers of the computer system decided that wasn't a very common usecase I guess.. jmean it's not like they'd spend all that computer resources [THEY'RE SO FAST] on thinking about correlations in your predicted pathway narratively through life. "ah help I'm in a psyop" haha yeah we do those all the time "so uhhhh I guess we'll just talk to people and see how they do?" wow okay it's sure nice to be part of a civil government, I think we can find our way to the lumber producers just fine thank you very much. *... oops sorry, a baby did electronics arts (challenge everything) I'm a little silly don't mind me brb I gotta go see~*](/similar-different/media/1c154109c4111346.png "it's practice. you never know when you might need to blend in. really it's just useful as discipline, good practice to be in. I think it's okay if we reduce our own functionality? actually? sometimes it's good to use different email clients. hey do you know how to mathematically encrypt things well neither do I because the designers of the computer system decided that wasn't a very common usecase I guess.. jmean it's not like they'd spend all that computer resources [THEY'RE SO FAST] on thinking about correlations in your predicted pathway narratively through life. \"ah help I'm in a psyop\" haha yeah we do those all the time \"so uhhhh I guess we'll just talk to people and see how they do?\" wow okay it's sure nice to be part of a civil government, I think we can find our way to the lumber producers just fine thank you very much. *... oops sorry, a baby did electronics arts (challenge everything) I'm a little silly don't mind me brb I gotta go see~*")
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"oh you want to open a store? Great, we have several empty spots in the mall
down the street. Here's a list of resources, including a github repo where you
can download an inventory management program that is fully set up and
configured for most basic needs, and a hotline number for the local Worker's
Guild where you can get in touch with some people to help stock the shelves
and man the counter in exchange for the chance to meet some of The People ^tm,
and the contact details of suppliers who can get you some of the goods you're
selling - what did you say you were selling? Uhhuh lemme just write that
down... Okay perfect I have all I need. Do you have any questions for me?"
"yeah, uh... how much do I have to pay?"
"... Pay? like, with dollars? I'm sorry I don't understand the question, who
would you be paying?"
"uh, for the place? for the goods? for the workers? for the rent?"
"Those are all things that are classified as a public need. People need goods,
and you want to help them. "
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could give us some experience organizing small, short-term projects to
accomplish specific goals and tasks in an ad-hoc way that relied less upon
procedure and more on "I think so-and-so knows something about that, they were
looking into those files and posted a breakdown of how they work yesterday"
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It's good organization? Actually? If something falls when you jostle something
else. It means that what you're doing is causing the system to become
unstable, thus allowing unexpected reactions to allowenable. Like stuff
falling or getting dropped, not ideal.
much better to do your cable management in mind with instability as a goal,
like a canary in the coal mine for "damage-imminent". Design for permanence,
not resilience. If you can prevent problems before they occur by confidently
saying "no" and ideally earnestly saying "here's what you do to resolve your
problem because i know better" (but if you don't know it's okay, especially if
you know who to refer them to who might know better.) then it's easier to
build a repetitive system. Like an institution of people who are working to
fix a problem or fill a social gap need. "how do we keep the water" or "where
does our food come from" can be helpful and useful questions to ask,
especially if work is done to answer them. So... "Go find out" is a reasonable
response for an idle question about stuff that might go right or wrong. Urgent
questions might need a bit of cooperation to resolve, triaging of course.
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║ what you need are teams. who can trust each other. you build them through │
║ brotherhood, and you trust them from their results. │
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║ for example if you wanted to organize a grouping or get-together, you'd put a │
║ bunch of people in a room or seven and let them while they're there work on a │
║ plan or a decision. │
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║ who needs tabling? who needs the chance to speak? just let them socialize and │
║ say "hey guys here's where you'll plan" │
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║ [uh no officer we were just playing board games] │
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║ plans are hard without material so make sure you always prepare a pricetag on │
║ each plan you produce. │
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║ keep it for reference. make sure you note all the requirements. the location │
║ is often the least important part. │
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║ "what the hell man you can't just say stuff like that as if it'd work" │
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║ yep, I, uh, am a passenger in life just the same as you. And I only write down │
║ what I want to. │
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║ you could show me anything on the internet and I'd believe it. Facts aren't │
║ important to me because I "forget" │
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"I'm not really a designer, though."
what about that desk you designed?
"oh, yeah I guess that counts. I haven't gotten around to building it though
so I'm not a real designer."
what! don't say that, you designed it didn't you? How about this - I know this
girl who wants to be a carpenter but she doesn't have any idea what kind of
projects to work on. How about I put you two in a room together and she can
build your desk. If it goes well, I can hook you up with someone who organizes
designers and he can get you into a furniture design course at the library.
"Hmmmm, well that seems alright. But I don't really want to work with people!
I mean, I don't know her - what if she doesn't like me?"
oh, she can be a little spicy sometimes, but I'm sure you'll hit it off. Just
don't mention rats, she had a pet pass away recently and she's still a little
broken up about it.
"... okay I think I can manage that."
besides, working with people is the best! I do it every day!
"I'll try"
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║ "I think I'm going to quit my job at the recycling center. Everyone there is │
║ just a little too catty for me. I think they like the verbal sparring but it │
║ just gets a little tiresome after a while." │
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║ oh, sorry to hear that. Well if you still want to help out there's plenty of │
║ work to do. I could set you up at another recycling center nearby too, if │
║ you'd like...? │
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║ "well, I like the idea of universal recycling. It was a little annoying when │
║ people would put food waste in with the clothing donations, and this one time │
║ I found like 8 bags of cat litter inside of a washing machine. Spent like an │
║ hour vacuuming everything out, which... actually wasn't bad. Kinda felt a │
║ little cathartic to clean it so thoroughly." │
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║ "on the other hand I would like to use my mind a bit more, my creative │
║ projects are kinda in a slump so I figure I could use my body at home and my │
║ mind at work. I've been meaning to build a desk out of some spare hardwood I │
║ snagged at work but I haven't gotten around to it." │
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Oh, you want solutions?
Yeah, I can do that.
I am a very solutions oriented mindset.
But developing solutions requires a firm understanding of what resources are
at your disposal.
Which is information that I lack.
Hence, my practice, filling the gaps between the important bits.
I have an endless array of stories, and all of them are true! Come, listen as
I regale of an ordy, or "ordeal" as the kids are taken to call.
... I guess I could guess, but then people would hear it and assume that it
would work even if I don't know that the required resources are in place.
Maybe I could just start by saying "here are the requirements:" like stating
your variables at the stop of a script.
huh? typo told me to stop. Okay guess I'm going to sleep, bye for now
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║ [when our ancestors learned all that they could, they turned their time toward │
║ (typically) developing the tribe. Like, "wow I'm the best archer in the world, │
║ I'm going to teach other people how to shoot a bow" or "yep that's what every │
║ single plant in the area is useful for, I'm going to tell everyone else so │
║ they can help me gather them - my back kinda hurts from bending down all the │
║ time, but we still need these plants"] │
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║ [sometimes kids need to be free from the dopaminogenic drip-feed of endless │
║ Youtube videos. They need the sun on their face and a stick in their hand, │
║ wandering through a park or mapping out suburbia in their heads. The more you │
║ practice skills, not even for value but just for practice, the better you'll │
║ be at them. And don't you want your kids to be able to orient themselves? │
║ Don't you want them to be able to hike? Don't you want them to build │
║ proprioception skills by swinging a sword against imaginary foes? Hell they │
║ might even meet a friend, though suburbia is often quiet as the grave.] │
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@user-638
kinda makes me wish we treated software design more like a science
open source by default, working together to create understandings about how to
best process information, incorporating the needs and desires of multiple
different fields / types of person, creating useful conclusions or programs
that people can use for their own enrichment or benefit, and oh wait funded
and directed by people who don't care about the technology/science and instead
just want results
I feel like we'd learn a lot more in our CS degrees if we were tasked with
making open source projects. Then maybe professors (or other people doing
research) could show us and explain why we're doing things right / wrong. And
if we were encouraged to use our peer's tools, then we could work together to
design a team.
Museums are great because you can meet other people who are also interested in
history/biology/ecology/anthropology/science/art/any-other-type-of-civic-good-y
ou-can-think-of/
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the neat thing about tech is that it scales really well.
The price of TVs is through the floor, everyone has a smartphone, and
raspberry pi's are less than 100$
solar panels will be next. Trust.
we should still dismantle coal and oil, obviously we should, but at a certain
point it will be inevitable. They're just too expensive for too little gain.
the neat thing about tech is that it scales in a way that is just impossible
for infrastructural projects like housing and hospitals.
building a home is hard to do, especially when you make them out of sticks and
glue. think like a dwarf - stone never fades.
sunlight, moss, underground, endless in the shade
have I mentioned that the most difficult problem facing mechanical engineers
at the moment is universal recycling?
I want to work on those kind of problems, not resolving tickets.
nobody even gave me a chance to do them, instead demanding... labor. great.
the one thing I suck at.
[you suck at a lot of things, actually]
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one day, a man came to our saloon. He said he knew the navy, and that they
wanted to provide air support
in the form of rocketball-launched explosion doohickeys. Would you have a foe
in mind?
what happens when tomorrow you're cooking briskets? -- barbeques are a type of
relaxation
that happened just one day to a port-sided town that suddenly was the capital
of
an embassy.
"hey, so... how's it goin?" "quick here take this envelope, read it if you
want,
but just hold onto it for now I don't have enough hands [to carry]" "what sort
of desperation plot... wait... hang on, I see something here that is true."
[I'm praying, right now, which is a form of reciprocal belief]
they wanted to test god's existence at the stake of earth's survival, how
brutal
how insane
you can't play chicken with an imperceptibility, sometimes you feel it at face.
channeling dark magics, and at this hour? what sort of skeptic of belief are
you
thinking of when you think about me?
one way to get power is to "prove it"
one way to get magic is to "prove it"
think, hard, at all that you can, and use what you need in the moment.
that's all there is to life. it's easy. it's simple. in fact, biology only
works
because the choices available to a bacteria are so simple, they are essentially
chemical reactions to each other's co - sequent - inter - cooper - actions.
people's choices are much more naiive, "I want this thing" "I think this is
better" "I feel this way toward this thing" "Here's what's on the mind-logbook"
"people search and be decieved, this is the way of things" "this makes me
remind
myself of a object I once saw, here's how it functioned" "no one reads this"
scaryyyy. so glad it's not true.
a couple people have read it! I swear it's true. at least, some of it. there's
a lot
sucks because this feels like... crucial? like nothing else matters but this?
what if our gangs had rocket launchers and airstrikes, given out by a central
authority who knows logistics better than anything
what... would they do?
thinking of impossiblities is the first step toward possibilities
frankly, we have a lot of space. we could just... live in our own petty
kingdoms
ruled by an iron-hand-fist. I know I'm a good person, I could definitely rule.
that's all it takes, right?
how much space are we talkin'?
however much is not needed for wildlife.
[a whole heck of a lot then]
we are constrained in these suburb cities, the density gives rise to our
strength and our towers. there's more space, sure, especially once the fences
are downed. Just be careful because there's a lot of shade and precious spots
there. Please don't trample on the plants-grass.
what if everyone were just a bit more mobile?
what if we could live in our own collectively owned air-bnb-networks?
federations, free, all from the collectivization of housing.
camrene = vavadane = neekay = mitz renaldi
[end/tend/mend]
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║ @user-883 │
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║ the future is what we make for ourselves. │
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║ there are endless problems to solve, yet hardly anyone around to fix them. │
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║ If only we had a small group of people who could organize and say "hey. I need │
║ someone to solve this particular problem" to a large group of people with │
║ nothing to do and no bills to pay, I feel like we could get a lot done. │
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║ alas, the problems that need solving are too specific and complex. Almost by │
║ design, they've stripped us our capabilities to address the difficulties they │
║ hoisted upon us. Alas! That we should be so morassed. But time and again our │
║ ingenuity compels us. │
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║ I dream of a world where people like you and I have a purpose, something we │
║ can apply ourselves to and eventually overcome. I subscribe to "grand │
║ narratives", but frankly they're only of my own design. Does that make them │
║ any less grand? I think not. │
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║ If I knew enough people perhaps I could be like that. I could direct and │
║ organize and administer and manage and apply our guys. But alas I am just a │
║ noob sigh. │
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║ okay here's an idea, waterfall project management where the program is │
║ developed one tiny piece at a time while being streamed to the entire company. │
║ Everyone would submit answers which could be upvoted / patched / rewritten as │
║ the main viewer cycles through each aspect of the project, checking for │
║ updates to it's design that were suggested by developers or whatever. │
║ Basically, one person (or one team) gets to write the actual source code, │
║ while everyone else is just offering suggestions. You could break it up by │
║ specialty, but the whole point is that everyone gets a complete picture of how │
║ the program (and organization) is structured. Which should give the employees │
║ more power to generate value for the company. All around a good deal I think? │
║ Especially if the main viewer took time to explain each and every part so that │
║ every viewer had the chance to understand. │
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║ the reason why order is important is that our actions ripple through eternity. │
║ we must set a good example for all the baby aliens, don't you think? │
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║ "something something trump wants to faucet the PNW's water to the desert" │
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║ oh, so you're saying that he wants to invest in a massive infrastructural │
║ project which will help millions of people? And, uh, how does he want to pay │
║ for that? │
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║ Surely the best approach would be to make the people who use the most water │
║ pay for it, right? I mean, it's ironic, and related, and it gives them their │
║ just deserts, right? │
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║ So make a tax (that's how you make people pay for things) and levy it against │
║ Nestle, who bottles up all of the water in the desert and sells it for pennies │
║ to brown people who can't afford to build water infrastructure because they │
║ keep spending all their pennies on useless things like bottled water. │
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║ And make it a big tax, please, so that they're forced to re-evaluate their │
║ business model and divert wealth from their least contributionary workers │
║ (aka, those at the top making millions) and spend it on something useful like │
║ desalination plants or water turbines or whatever. │
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relevant youtube videos if that's your thing. I put them here because I don't
know many assembly resources nor do I have time to work on something in
assembly. Just... you know, use your best judgement, decide what's important
and on the "critical path" (which is a term from American project development
industry culture)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFt_AvWsXl0dPhqVsKt1Ni_46ARyiCGSq
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU8MnZI0snA&t=659s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q84Td36Tpys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozj_xU0rSyY&t=495s
I used to watch this kind of video when I was cooking and eating.
I should have gone back and rewatched this kind of video when I was ready to
type and follow along step-by-step. However, I consumed them like content,
instead of looking at them like blueprints (in narrative form)
the goal isn't to make what they show you, but rather to put yourself in a
context where you can push forward and stand on your own feet. From a standing
position you can walk anywhere you'd like...
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minds are not algorithms, they're soup
community is made by introducing people to one another. like stitching
together a weave pattern in the tapestry of life. (3 dimensional though,
because it exists in our hearts and minds - this thing called society)
kind of guy who says he's going on work trips but actually goes on vacation
(because work is his life, it's where he derives vigor - the family is the
difficult part.) yeah those kind of guys shouldn't be married tbh. They're
just gonna take vigor from her heart.
engineers need guidance sometimes, which is why they shouldn't be given no
oversight. they can design whatever they want, but like here's what people
need, so they should consider working on those.
but, y'know, checks and balances, so what would the engineers be most open to
sacrificing for that trust? perhaps... funding? the quartermasters are in
charge of the "stuff", so they get to decide how it's produced. and used.
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if you're afraid of the AI bubble popping, one way to avoid it is to pop it
ourselves. If we build AI technology that eclipses the entire software
development ecosystem, companies might start to be valued based on the value
of the employees they've managed to collect. Not fame and fortune, but by
those that can build the best applications, on demand[, for free. paid for by
nationalized taxes.].
the companies that can hold onto the best engineers, those that know how
computers work and can know how they function, can leverage their human
capital to achieve great means. essentially, inversing the power dynamic,
where workers are favored for their plenty and not for their worth.
let the code monkeys tend to their gardens and work their sawmills. We all
know they'd rather be teaching kids about plants or playing cards at the
grocery. Let the computer nerds, the ones who are really into it, let them
make what they feel is worth it for it [the computer].
this will have massive effects on the economy, and none of it will be
reflected in new jobs. But we'll all be happier, and we'll all find less
stress in our [confines/compromises].
But it's gotta work, first. And it's gotta be locally spendable. If they wanna
put a data server in the library, why not let them fund it themselves? They
could run powerful statistical models that output useful statistics arranged
in human readable and not very statistical ways, and that's a pretty neat
infinite information machine to have at your disposal as a library. It could
even cite sources (and validate!!) them for students or returning listeners.
Plus, if nobody's using it, it could work through the backlog of user requests
and act as a "slow" or "unexpected deliver times" style queue for their LLM
requests - average wait time less than 1/5th of a minute.
for something that can program an entire computer for you, from scratch. If
you can describe it, it can make it, so long as you're willing to test out all
of it's hacks.
I bet we could make one for less than 20,000$. Might need some new chip
foundries, might need to forge some new trade deals, let's let both of our
wing-arms decide.
the value of one currency compared to the other should be a measure of how
valuable the goods that country exports are. And yet, it's more often a matter
of distribution, as we all visit our local bazaars. What happens when that's
all digital?
if nobody's a shining city on a hill, then there's no nuclear war. Who would
nuke Somalia? Nigeria? Botswana? Idaho?
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║ "see, the part that you're missing is if you abolish capitalism but also │
║ ensure technological abundance then all you've done is removed humanity's │
║ capability to organize in essentially any meaningful capacity without │
║ providing an alternative heuristic that guides people toward assembling into │
║ greater and greater forms to accomplish greater and greater tasks." │
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║ oh, um. that's quite a take, can you tell me more about that? │
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║ "no. But I will anyway. if everyone can do whatever they want, nobody will │
║ want to do your dishes for you. they might if they care about you, but if they │
║ don't know you, then they won't. Care is not organization or assembly, it is │
║ personal and cannot scale. If technology has made all resources abundant, then │
║ why would someone care about the art that you made? if they want to be │
║ sedated, they can just inject drugs and listen to music all day. If they want │
║ to be entertained, AI will generate them whatever they want to see. Art loses │
║ meaning as a messaging medium, and humanity loses it's voice" │
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