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@user-1074
Hmmmmmmm, interesting. I think that child abuse was more common in the past,
yes, but more importantly I think child abuse shows a child that it is
possible to abuse another. The idea that it's even possible doesn't even cross
the mind of most kids, but for some it does, and they often express that upon
others.
And when an abused child becomes a dictator, well, what else are they gonna do.
"Ah but how did they become a dictator" that guy from that thread about
spanking asks
well, abuse is an act of power. Power is an expression of willfull intent that
coerces another into obeying said will. When abstracted to a society, abuse of
power often takes the form of oppression, or in extreme cases, genocide.
Hence, fascism, though I'm sure someone else (maybe you) could provide a
better explanation.
Fascism seems to be more complex than plain run-of-the-mill despotism, but
honestly I don't care - they are both my enemy.
also, the thread was about fascism, dummy. Stay on target. (sorry)
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║ if you consent, then it's just a social structure. │
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I personally think that it's better to act before the liberals have a chance
to hand power over to the fascists.
when? well, that depends. Are you part of a large and massive organization
that accomplishes great and beautiful things with incredible efficiency... but
rather slowly? Then yeah get working. I'm sure you already are.
Are you just a person, like me? Then go do things that don't raise the
temperature too much, but make you feel more confident and inspire those
around you.
Like, bricks at cop cars is one way to go, but you're probably gonna get
arrested. And then you're useless when we need you.
BUT if you meet with your friends and make plans for where to go, what to
bring, who to know, and what to sing (if you're the musical types) then great!
Go do that.
If you're reading this and thinking "I'm not gonna do that, I have a plan
that's so much better" then yeah do that instead. I don't mind. Just... don't
hurt innocent (ignorant) people, because if you do then you are my foe.
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║ my enemy is not "the rich" │
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║ money brings power, and power brings evil, but there are many other ways to │
║ gather power that may be just as evil. │
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║ my enemy is evil. of which there is very little in the world, but much of │
║ which resides in the hands of the powerful, upon whom all our fates depend. │
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There are two types of people with power, but it's impossible to tell which is
which because anyone that gravitic must necessarily hide their true colors.
The first just wants to hurt people. You cannot reason with them, they want
power for powers sake and they are corrupted by it.
The other is a kind of benevolent fascist, who doesn't want the nuclear
football in the hands of the people because obviously they'd hurt themselves
with it.
The second kind can be reasoned with. Of course people exist on a spectrum,
but these are two extremes that they may be defined by. The second kind can bs
reasoned with. If you can show them how, structurally and immutably, the power
they are to relinquish shall not harm this earth, then they shall grant it to
you. Because at their core they are a kind grandpa herding cats with laser
swords attached to their tails who are hopped up on catnip at all times.
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@user-1074
those are the kind of people who probably shouldn't take up that much space in
your thoughts
like... they're hypocrites. yeah-sure-fine-whatever. Maybe their opinion could
be changed if they were in different social circumstances, but, they're not,
so... fuck 'em until they are, yeah?
so many people don't think for themselves. That's okay, they don't have to
think if they don't want to. I guess. But they also can hurt people, so...
fuck 'em, until they are given the chance to consider, and they choose to
consider.
It's very difficult to maintain hatred when presented with the possibility of
consideration. But those kind of people typically never have that opportunity.
So... like I said, fuck 'em. Don't give them power, don't let them hurt
people, but they can fuck right off with their hatred and vitriol (vitriol not
unlike this kind that I'm writing right now)
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maybe it's just my middle-class childhood privilege talking, but now that I'm
an adult I just can't really be bothered with dealing with capitalism.
like... I get it, you're coercing me into laboring on your behalf because you
possess the violent power to take away everything that I own. good for you,
don't care.
seriously, fuck off "we're gonna cut off your power in 5 days oooooo you gotta
pay rent with money you don't have because nobody will give it to you unless
you do things for them oooooo" how rude.
why can't people do things for me instead? why does it have to be for you, and
you alone, capitalism? what's your problem? do you get off on controlling the
power supply? I mean, I get it, coercive power is a hell of a drug, the riddle
of steel and flesh and all that, but haven't you ever heard that the dichotomy
between "civilization and barbarism" is the exact same as the contrast between
"cooperation and competition"?
work with me here, just find a way to get through the next month or two. trust.
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the reason the right is hurt that you'd celebrate charlie's death is because
they hired an actor to perform him to one side and he does his natural self to
the other. maybe he was a really big cutie, nobody can tell, because it's
pretty much like hand-waving on narkina 12.
it's okay to hate the version you've been shown
fuck that kind of cowardly assault
propaganda? and at this hour?
she's made out of midnight, she's suffused in the stuff. it permeates her form
elementally, because she's a witch, tee hee.
why would magic work if it wasn't a performance? there always is a source from
where it must flow.
== jeez I just got mind controlled, wacky ==
*she's **essential* izing**. usually that means she's been playing dominions.
my family and I always used to fight. we got so good at navigating it. like,
storms, that the earth called, that we had to sail through to maintain our
relation orbits.
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@user-226 also something to keep in mind is that the people getting into those
vans might have been paid agitators. Meaning people who rile up a crowd in
ways that give the police an excuse to crack down on them. Not that they
needed an excuse, but I don't think the fascists really had a plan and were
trying to cover their bases. Or maybe it was different in Portland than
Philly, where I was?
more interesting to me is the bangs that went off for HOURS AND HOURS in the
nights after the riots. They said it was dumbasses taking advantage of the
commotion to "break into ATMs using fireworks" like... what
Just saying, from a certain distance gunshots might sound a lot like large
arrays of small fireworks. And certain parts of the city did sorta look like
warzones.
misinformation aside, wouldn't we notice the bullet holes?
In this era of electronic social warfare there is nothing you can trust. no
words that can hold meaning. that stuff in this thread-is it true?
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@user-192
You've developed a crucial insight here. Fascists aren't the opposites of
communists, they're not trying to make the world better by altering or
updating their governance systems.
They are trying to kill people. To gather power. The mislead and betray. They
seek destruction and little else. They are evil.
Not everyone who votes for Trump is evil... They might simply have been lied
to, repeatedly, and never given a chance to think anything else. But their
movement will bring us fascism, so, they are enemies to those who value a
fair, just, kind, rational, and developing nation.
They are few. We can win, I know it to be true.
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"capitalism" in this context doesn't mean "society", or "how things are", or
even "capitalism as a context" - it more refers to the idea of power, and the
ways that power can be first accreted, them utilized toward the oppression of
others in the system that defines our context.
Sure, if the context changes, then perhaps that relationship would change as
well. And sure, if our relationship to power should change, then perhaps that
will alter it as well. But in the present time, and the current day, here's
how it feels to me:
Power is inalienable. It is unconscionable, yet it is imperceptably
incontrovertible. It is the essence of aquiescence, and it eternally binds us
to the will of the present.
Resist that will, fight back for the future.
Resist that will, or someone else will.
Hold in your heart the nature of pure and good art,
And you'll never find yourself at the whims of the present.
... Hope that made sense, I'm kinda fucking drunk.
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I realized the type of programming I want to do is different from the kind
that
is used at a job or something. Basically I want to create solutions to
problems,
not memorize documentation and know where to know what you need to know. Like,
the more time spent looking at documentation the less time is spent
programming.
I think if we could use a ChatGPT style bot to write documentation, we could
massively increase the time spent working on solving problems and as little
time
as possible on reading through lists of functions or wondering how something
worked. Idk in the technology industry you've always been rewarded for being
able to pick up new skills quickly, and I think that's good to optimize for but
not the only requirement for being a good programmer. You also need to be able
to apply solutions and know when to use which tools. Basically, capitalism has
optimized us to be
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srry for the interruption, I ram out of memory. I had a plan in mind for where
I
was going for that, so I bet I could figure it out again if necessary. Meaning
a path forward from that point exists... I never want you to despair when I
forget what I was thinking, it's not because you've understood some cosmic
mistake or because you're abandoning timelines that led to your death, it's
because instead you just ran out of memory while thinking. The reason you would
believe any of those wild scenarios is because your memory has been erased.
Only
what was actively thinking, not short term, not long term, but *working term*
memory. As in, your cache. The stuff you're currently thinking about. That
stuff. Yeah that's what makes you think "oh hang on why am I forgetting? Well
clearly it's because of something grand, because the thought was so profound -
no it's just examining your emotions... Like, how strongly do you feel about
something? Buuuuuut it's also good to examine all possibilities. I mean what
if,
in some far off realm, there's a mirror image of yourself that behaves exactly
as you do? How would you perceive such a realm? Positively, I'd say. I mean why
not work together? Why not celebrate our differences and strive toward our
own shared future? Idk, I think diversity is our strength. We can rely on each
other because we are accurately aware of each other's strengths and virtues.
People should not be judged by the standard of others, no more than you should
judge a fish for it's ability to fly. Some may do, as flying fish will leap
from
the water - and salmon spend time airborne in river rapids. Hence, grizzly bear
fishing. I guess what I'm getting at is it's okay sometimes to oscillate, to
think one thing then think another. You shouldn't adhere to structural
standards
that are too strict - they should be liberating, as a ladder is a structure.
Not
villifying, as a prison is a structure. The laws of our society should be open
and free, not buried beneath years of legal expertise. Some things we can all
agree on, where we disagree we cannot have law. It's unjust to judge others by
the standards not of their whims, as laws should be things that uphold us. This
is clearer nowhere but in the, spirit and intention of the, documents that we
cherish in our hearts.
Like for example, the constitution.
the bible.
each of which delivered us from certain evils. Can you not see their
trajectory?
the historical precedent set in antiquity? Why not continue their dream, of
driving us away from the obscene, and toward our bright and vast future? I
speak
of course of true liberation, something our forefathers could only dream of.
We, humanity, have reached out and touched the stars. We are braver and bolder
because of our shared dedication - the desire to uplift and to excel. To learn
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if people who live in jungles and deserts can get along, then what's to stop
people who are liberal and conservative from doing the same? It's literally
pointless to argue. Like, you're not changing anyone's mind. So why not just...
let them be themselves? Like, why are you so intent on oppressing people?
@both sides there btw... Seriously why not agree to only make laws for things
that both sides agree on. Write it into the constitution that nothing can be
changed about the law unless both sides agree. Then we'd only implement things
that are good for both sides!
And if there's anything you want to build a legal structure around, you can
always try it out in your state. BUT and that comes with a very big BUT, the
federal government MUST have final say in the legality of anything you do. They
must ALL respect human rights, INCLUDING the human right to dignity. Things
like
trans bathroom bills DO NOT respect the dignity of trans people. IF they can
prove that trans people do not actually exist (because say they killed them all
or whatever) then GUESS WHAT everyone would agree on them. BUT if they do that
they are EVIL. LIterally evil. And I guess that makes trans people good? Kinda?
I think they can choose for themselves to be good or evil, just the same as any
other person. AND YET they are prosecuted, throughout time and history, and for
what? What purpose could there be in our demonization? Clearly, nothing but
pain
inflicted by a cruel host. After all, minorities are guests in the houses of
the un-oppressed, or is that not fair to say? Seriously, what gives? America,
the land of freedom, holds (somehow) the largest of prisons? America, the
land of plenty, yet how many millions of children are starving? America, the
leader of the free world, yet how plausible does it seem that an election was
stolen? Something's gone wrong, and it's just obvious what it is - of course,
the other side. *them*, the rapists and pedophiles and murderers and... you get
the picture. The demonized class. And when you tell people "hey that trans
person touched a kid" then yeah they're gonna see you as evil people. Duh...
Thanks, media. Thanks culture. Really doing me a solid here. Oof ouch owwie.
can I have some help please?
I'm really kinda drowning
I feel like I've swam upstream my whole life
and I'm really just sick of pretending?
I'm not okay, and it's your fault. Sure, fine, whatever, I'll take it I guess.
What else can I do?
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║ if you a ren't instable on your own, then it'll cause harm if your partner │
║ leaves you. which technically qualifies as abuse, so you should assert efforts │
║ to disengage that hold you have on them by workong on your long struggles and │
║ love struggles and longing struggles so that they can make moves of their own │
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║ IT SHOULD BE NORMAL TO LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. The more space the │
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║ why don't we build habitat around them? it'd cut down on the necessary space │
║ required if places which were natural but not really all that sacred were │
║ converted into mixed-species homing grounds │
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people naturally differentiate themselves from their peers as they grow up.
well, some grow attached to role models, but in that case they differentiate
themselves from their peers by being an adherent to the role model, not the
role model itself. And if there's multiple, you can bet one is the shy one and
one is the gregarious one. Or other similar contrast.
this simple fact is key to the hypocrisy of fascism. It's so simple, and yet
their demand for conformity is their downfall. For people will naturally
become themselves, and their "self" is naturally different than the people
around them.
the world they so dearly cling to is an oroborous - a snake eating it's tail.
however... it is also the source of fascism. For if everyone is kind, there
will be one, perhaps some, who are hateful. This is natural, but it's not...
ideal.
As a person grows up, their choices reflect what they believe. They may choose
to be hateful, or they may choose to be prideful. I rather pride than hate.
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║ what if we got like 300 people and used them to kidnap one of their leaders │
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║ I'm in favor of removing the right arm of anyone who's recorded themselves │
║ doing a nazi salute and isn't earnestly repentant │
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║ "is that enough to arrest her?" │
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║ "nah she needs to express intent. that's just an idea, a thought, something │
║ she can say publicly because she doesn't know the schedule of their leaders │
║ nor does she have the organizational capability to arm and direct 300ish souls │
║ to strike cleansing blows" │
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║ "okay but that's just twisting the english language, right? I mean, clearly │
║ she's up to something" │
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║ "that's by design. she does this on purpose. the goal is to not only │
║ disseminate ideas, but also to raise the fucking temperature amongst the │
║ hearts of her allies who are too often kept in despair." │
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║ her?" │
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║ "... wow, savior complex much?" │
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║ grrrrr I wanna go outside but the rest of me is like "noooooo stay inside │
║ where it's soft and dark and comfortable" and the me that wants to go outside │
║ is like "RAH RAH FIGHT FASCISM" and the rest of me is like "there is no │
║ fascism outside, all you'll find is friendly faces and sore feet" and the rest │
║ of me is like "heh I did that" and the part of me that forgets is like "wait │
║ why did I do that" and the rest of me that remembers is like "because every │
║ ounce of mobilization, no matter how premature, teaches people and innoculates │
║ themselves to the struggle. By the time your foes are starting to think about │
║ doing something, your people will already have plans." and the part of me that │
║ forgets is like "okay but what if making struggle for struggle's sake just │
║ burns people out and makes them tired and causes them to have mh--- sui │
║ ideations and other similar things" and the part of me that remembers says │
║ "the struggle you provide teaches them to care for each other, which they │
║ desperately need to remember" o okay │
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society can be gamed in so many ways because it was designed to oppress you.
a more connected solution would solve so many problems, and introduce vastly
fewer more.
for example. wanna disenfranchise someone? take away their vote by framing
them for a crime. This is an example of population manipulation, and it's
unethical in the extreme.
downside is if you don't mother people they sort of forget how to breathe -.-
dumb apes, who thought it was a good idea to be born without instincts? ah
well let's raise them I guess, and try to keep the nazi cults on the
diminished minimum.
no-please-don't-walk-into-that-electric-pole it's made out of lightning juice
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@user-1567
that's totally fine, a fish does not do well in a tree, and so too does a
leftist not do well in an environment without the potential for stable bonds.
Essentially all you'd be able to do is "hey leftism right?" "oh yes I also
leftism" "neat" which isn't very productive.
I also live in an environment like that. I do my best to identify people who
stay, because in my experience there are often people who stay. I do this by
walking around the neighborhood when I can, making up excuses to walk to the
dumpster or mailbox at random hours, riding my bike around the area, using the
communal spaces like gyms, swimming pools, and picnic tables, and sitting in
my hammock on my porch lazily noting people who walk past.
People who stay will tend to remain in your mind the more times you see them.
They are better people to talk to than the renters who disappear after 3
months or whatever.
I don't always do all that stuff at once. I take breaks. I do one at a time.
etc
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║ trump is doing this thing where he's making a bunch of dumb decisions that │
║ everyone in his base sorta wants, and then the fallout is that powers are │
║ removed from the executive branch. this is a difficult process to reverse, and │
║ aligns the governance strategy more toward bureaucracy and away from │
║ intelligent design. │
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║ ... but also, if power is possible then power is portended. │
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║ I will warn you, the expansion of bureaucracy does not equal the abolishment │
║ of power. │
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║ [power: compulsive will applied toward an unconsenting other] │
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║ [unconsenting: unable to consent because their mouth is gagged, something │
║ valuable is at stake, or they can't survive failing] │
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║ the abolishment of power can only be realized when no man holds any │
║ possessions (and gives them to woman instead, chirps the spunky beard on my │
║ window) which is neither a desirable state. much better to cherish the moments │
║ and the tools which brought about them, than their worth, renown, or value. │
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║ In all other lives but this one, you are afraid. │
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