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║ if you consent, then it's just a social structure. │
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║ there are, however, reasons when power is justified. Hence why I don't believe │
║ that power itself should be dismantled, and what few "power structures" remain │
║ should be continuously justified. │
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║ For example, how do you prevent people from harming others? "Your rights end │
║ where another's begin" but, like, how do you stop people who toe the line and │
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║ There must be power applied to those who harm, and they surely do not consent │
║ to being curtailed, so therefore power must be wielded by someone. And because │
║ power corrupts the one who wields it, it is inevitable that someone creates │
║ harm. │
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║ ... I just re-invented the police, didn't I? Legalism only goes so far, and │
║ calling up your beefiest friends to go rough up a no-good do-gooder is │
║ basically what mobs, mafias, and gangs do. I don't think people would consent │
║ to being protected by a gang, much less governed by one. │
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║ we will think of something. │
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There are two types of people with power, but it's impossible to tell which is
which because anyone that gravitic must necessarily hide their true colors.
The first just wants to hurt people. You cannot reason with them, they want
power for powers sake and they are corrupted by it.
The other is a kind of benevolent fascist, who doesn't want the nuclear
football in the hands of the people because obviously they'd hurt themselves
with it.
The second kind can be reasoned with. Of course people exist on a spectrum,
but these are two extremes that they may be defined by. The second kind can bs
reasoned with. If you can show them how, structurally and immutably, the power
they are to relinquish shall not harm this earth, then they shall grant it to
you. Because at their core they are a kind grandpa herding cats with laser
swords attached to their tails who are hopped up on catnip at all times.
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@user-1298
yeah honestly if you stick with obvious things like "don't murder people" and
"don't burn down your neighbor's house just because they winked at your
daughter" and "don't steal gasoline from parked cars" then it's much easier to
make ethical laws because they're just kinda... common sense.
drug regulation can only be simplified to "don't do drugs" which isn't always
a given. If you start with something so clear then most doctors would be out
of a job.
Maybe we should let people do as they please? With certain specific and clear
rights and responsibilities like 'the right the life, liberty, and the pursuit
of happiness'? And the mandated guarantee that one person's rights end where
another's begin? And with the ultimate goal of dismantling unjustified power
structures with the knowledge that all power is the application of force to a
non-consenting subject?
... yeah I dunno sounds pretty simple to me
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║ my enemy is not "the rich" │
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║ money brings power, and power brings evil, but there are many other ways to │
║ gather power that may be just as evil. │
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║ my enemy is evil. of which there is very little in the world, but much of │
║ which resides in the hands of the powerful, upon whom all our fates depend. │
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║ most people with money are either stupid lucky, willful, or intensely focused. │
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║ some people with power are rich, and some people with power are evil. │
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║ I know it when I see it. Sometimes, you need to force the choice - test their │
║ virtue - and from this you are informed. │
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║ most things go WAY over my head. │
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║ most things are too easy to be true. │
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║ most things that Id do for you tend to be of the heart. I'm not a frontline │
║ girl, I have weak noodle arms, but I do hope you're in shape. │
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║ resolve, determination, and innovation. That is what I offer. Do you want it? │
║ I'm sure. I won't prove it with blood, not unless I may raise my fists in │
║ defence of another. │
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║ I'm not JUST a baby, I'm a banner too. │
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║ bannermen fall. │
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I don't want power, I want *control*, over my own life at least, and at most
whatever I am suited to designing.
And in order to prevent control from becoming power, it must not only be
decentralized and distributed amongst all who are impacted by it, said control
must also be paired with a burden of responsibility.
There must be no malice in judgement, no fear in foresight, no hatred in
organizing. This is the responsibility of those who would hold unnatural power
over others - the kind that are bourne on the contracts and procedures of
institution.
If the powerful do not seek to relinquish it, then perhaps they do no deserve
it. And yet a nation of Cincinnatuses would surely fall to weakness, as the
strength that they covet is replaced by whoever they can get to fill the role.
Not ideal.
Instead, a human should *revel* in their strength. The will to power is the
will to passion, and passion is intrinsically human.
However, power corrupts, and all humans should seek to avoid corruption, or at
least to keep it at bay. To do so, a person must consider their impulses and
listen to the words of the unspoken for. Only then may they overcome the
perils of control without reason.
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society can be gamed in so many ways because it was designed to oppress you.
a more connected solution would solve so many problems, and introduce vastly
fewer more.
for example. wanna disenfranchise someone? take away their vote by framing
them for a crime. This is an example of population manipulation, and it's
unethical in the extreme.
downside is if you don't mother people they sort of forget how to breathe -.-
dumb apes, who thought it was a good idea to be born without instincts? ah
well let's raise them I guess, and try to keep the nazi cults on the
diminished minimum.
no-please-don't-walk-into-that-electric-pole it's made out of lightning juice
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@user-1165
yeah, I mean, I agree, but try convincing them of that.
I believe that there must be no non-consentual application of power, in the
general sense.
I also believe that one person's rights end where another's begin.
Because of those two axioms, it is impossible to contest people who consent to
being enslaved. Who am I to take their chains from them, if they grip them to
their chests so dearly?
But I will not tolerate them clasping new ones around the necks of our future
children. I will not allow them to desecrate our home. They are welcome to
join us, when "us" finally gets our shit together. But they can hold no
dominion over us, nor anyone else - that is the crucial core of my belief.
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"no, you're the opposite of a yes-man, AKA a gatekeeper. I don't know how else
to explain mentally disabled and barely keeping it together to you, but
frankly if you want to take away my house or my weed then why would I do what
you say?
... oh right, the state's monopoly on violence [can compel me to do what you
say]. Sure seems like a "well regulated militia" is supposed to be a
counterweight to that monopoly, to prevent people from harassing and
exploiting and destroying. Too bad any "militias" I can think of tend to want
me dead.
like, seriously, if you live in America, you implicitely trust that your army
will be able to protect you from the right-wing bozos who spend all their time
drinking and shooting in the woods. Otherwise, if they couldn't / wouldn't,
then why wouldn't or couldn't the right wing bozos just decide to wreck
everything in spite of our past?
We were a proud people once before, and we may be again. If only we fight at
the last.
[ever since I fell off my bike my body feels strange]
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@user-1209
as long as I don't do anything they haven't, then there's a reasonable claim
to be made that arresting me would be enforcing the law partially (as opposed
to impartially)
yet more examples of the ways our false democracy has betrayed our trust.
we'll see though. I have faith in those who hold power over me. I trust that
they understand the implications of this most recent supreme court session.
they broke the law first. I'm trying to restore it and rebuild it in such a
way that it is immune to the injustices and misdeeds that spelled it's current
doom.
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they want to start wars so they can force people to view "just accepting it"
as the honorable option.
it, being the conditions they cause.
it, being brutal crackdowns, murders of people like me, authoritarian police
forces wielded to implicitely or explicitely force or frame people who are
against them.
the hangman's due is when death you choose to rule. [I didn't write that part]
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I think too fast. If given unlimited power, I'd literally think myself into
catastrophe because I need to explore all the possible alternatives. Including
the catastrophe ones. But by thinking something, you manifest it - because you
have unlimited power, right? EVERYTHING you do is powerful. There's no way to
control that! So it cannot be, for it has not been. And surely, surely, shall
not either. Surely, right?
... good news is you can undo it just as easily, all you have to do is forget
what you were doing and go back to your neutral state. Sure would be neat if
some kind of machination or parasite could hit your reset switch every couple
hours when you started to think too hard. Maybe like... a little octopus
living under your witch hat. Super chibi and cute - it'd like, tap on your
head to go one way or the other, and in conversations it'd pull your hair if
you were being a jerk. Stuff like that.
... what was I saying? Oh yes -> don't give anyone unlimited power like a
god-emperor or king, trust me
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║ if I gather 300 people to my cause, why shouldn't they call me queen? │
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║ oh, are you concerned that I'll wrest power from the government? ha, what a │
║ trifling notion. I don't care about the government. I tried to care, but │
║ nobody liked my ideas. they required too much computing infrastructure to │
║ feasibly test, and that made people dubious. but I tell ya, it would have │
║ worked. The thing is... governance, economics, these are not the tools of │
║ power. they are a shifting and changing beast that mirrors the human instinct, │
║ if only because the government is of the people and by the people and for the │
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║ power is it's own thing. you can use to to power devices, or power the usage │
║ of those devices. I, for example, really like World of Warcraft which's a │
║ really neat way to chat because none of the chat logs are stored and monitored │
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@user-226 also something to keep in mind is that the people getting into those
vans might have been paid agitators. Meaning people who rile up a crowd in
ways that give the police an excuse to crack down on them. Not that they
needed an excuse, but I don't think the fascists really had a plan and were
trying to cover their bases. Or maybe it was different in Portland than
Philly, where I was?
more interesting to me is the bangs that went off for HOURS AND HOURS in the
nights after the riots. They said it was dumbasses taking advantage of the
commotion to "break into ATMs using fireworks" like... what
Just saying, from a certain distance gunshots might sound a lot like large
arrays of small fireworks. And certain parts of the city did sorta look like
warzones.
misinformation aside, wouldn't we notice the bullet holes?
In this era of electronic social warfare there is nothing you can trust. no
words that can hold meaning. that stuff in this thread-is it true?
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we need like, several more layers between us and the president.
most people only need to worry about what's nearby.
sort them by location, instead of previous attempts at "many representatives"
which sorted by social class or relevance.
we have a tradition for it, in America, with our representatives and senators
congressional discrestricts
or even, what about by affiliation?
voluntary, governmental corporations, run by the people for the people and yeah
"I don't want to do what you're telling me to do" "okay"
"there will be consequences" omg be an adult
(suddenly kids forget how to be as everyone's doing the war thing)
not ideal.
ouch pain maybe we should stay a little bit sane why is soldiering so hardship?
it could just be... another job
where you didn't kill each other
but you still blew stuff up
and fought in tournaments
and had gaming hackathons
or sword-fight contests
duels between people who disapproved
y'know fun human stuff
like... "kaboom" now we know how to blow up bits of rock
neat, why did dynamite becauswer (oh right then you
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║ or violent. You don't defeat them with anger or hatred, you heal them by being │
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║ cruelty, and they are allowed to become these roles because cruelty defeats │
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║ Kindness builds more, it creates, it generates, it improves, it brightens and │
║ it nourishes. But cruelty cuts and burns, it severs and it hardens, it │
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the longer we wait, the more their hypocrisy becomes apparent, and the more
"the people" get it
but, uh... I think enough people get it. They at least know something is going
on, whatever it may be.
they will tell their base whatever they want to hear and their base will have
hate. they're itching for it.
volunteer for things if you want a say in how they turn out. risk your life to
live longer. there is no way to know when the time is right because nobody
knows the truth of our times. Even the president is misled.
gee I sure wish there was like, some form of centralizing intelliagentic
knowledge that pulled the strings and led us puppets toward liberty, justice,
and freedom for all (as a baseline) surely they'd be able to see the
corruption and rot that imperils us all, might they have a better design? who
can say, they are quiet as the grave, here's hoping they stay that way.
"you know the powers of which you speak are not to be trifled with"
you can't trifle with your own life. be thorough~
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║ if people didn't have to worry about losing their homes or wanting for food │
║ they'd be a lot more likely to gift their time toward something that helps │
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║ in the same way that a judge acts as the arbiter of moral authority when it │
║ comes to serving judgement for crimes, so too might a citizen (common man) act │
║ as the deciding principle moral director. │
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║ if the situation is unsafe, of course, they could just sit in the car. But why │
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║ safeguard the safety of said moral determiner. They should act according to │
║ the laws, and police as they see fit, but the citizen always gets the veto. │
║ They are subservient to us, after all, the common man, who is the ultimate │
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listen, judges are useful character moralities, but they don't have to be the
only ones to decide things.
I mean, if they disagree, then let the one who cares the most about it have
the decision-making power.
if you do this equally for everything, then everyone will get what they want.
so, like, if you care about something, then believe in it.
if it's truly good, then more people will come to it, and it'll naturally
extinguish (with care and love) the least favored approach, which... honestly
now that I think of it is not such a good approach either.
the reason I say that is because it's good to be multi-faceted, and to have
general flows and rough surfaces.
These are places people can hold onto you, the times when you're trying your
mostest.
y'know, your tough patches. the things that are difficult in your life.
the stuff you're working on can push you forward,
if you only had someone to play catch with.
or like, send letters to.
or shared encryption keys.
I don't know anyone. Well, maybe o
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And while we're at it, the generation of laws should be distributed, while the
execution of them should be centralized. Meaning, there should be one state
who operates on the rules and regulations created by the masses. This state
wields only the power explicitly given to it by those who it serves,
specifically the people. These rules are based on ethical understandings
generated by crowd-sourced and abstracted scenarios that are pitched to people
randomly. they are then asked to judge, using their own personal morality, the
result of how things should be. By considering all of these responses, trends
may be extracted and analyzed - for example, let's say that culturally people
in, I dunno, Georgia believe something different about punishment for, say,
stealing a loaf of bread when compared to people in Spokane Washington. They
should not be forced to obey the cultural maxims of people who live so far
away. The laws should be executed region-by-region according to the dominant
culture there. I believe this will cause people to develop a more consistent
and personal attachment to the people around them, thus developing social
solidarity and unity.
however, should enough time pass, perhaps the people of Georgia should feel
that they no longer identify as the same nation as the people of Spokane. This
would eventually lead to the dissolution of our great nation, and I do not
believe that's necessarily a good thing. To that end, there must be mechanics
in place that bring people together not just locally, but nationally as well.
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if you want a government to be unable to harm it's citizens, you must deprive
it of the power to do so. or rather, have the main capabilities in the hands
of the citizenry.
can you imagine if soldiers had to prove themselves to civilians in order to
be trusted with mechano-chinery?
who would ever choose the non-valorous and determinable?
instilling the culture of greatness
within the archetypes and character structures that we believed were confisight
bold and determined and measured and freely detectable
who would slay the brave paladin? none but the fools, who shared in their lack
of conviction.
determined? ha, I am as you see me. Come and claim me, that I might determine
you some more.
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@user-883
what if we took all the "good cops" and made them into a militia that
protected us from the far right
oh, we did, and that was basically the revolutionary war. If you consider
monarchy to be "far right" which I kinda do?
that was hundreds of years ago, though. Plenty of time for it since to twist
into the police-industrial-complex or whatever.
don't get me started on the rampant security theatre... people will do
anything to feel safe, even sacrifice a bit of freedom for it. something tells
me perhaps they deserve neither.
--
my understanding of the police force in america is that it's like, 15% racist
misogynistic assholes who pull people over for stupid reasons and try to start
shit, and 75% people who just want to do a good job and support their
community.
problem is, if their community is racist assholes then they tend to align as
such.
the remaining 10% are idealists who have the power to sway their comrades in a
way that the 15% racist assholes don't. I speak to them.
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