=== ANCHOR POEM === ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────── @user-1441 @user-226 yes of course! and humidity is an issue, so perhaps a sealed environment. But that's not difficult, especially if your population centers are designed such that you can still have a community while in a natural setting. A fast internet connection, ideally with a local mesh network on top of the bus-style WAN we currently use for the internet, and plenty of communal areas for people to hang out which are like... 25% nicer than their homes, and much larger. these days, there is very little reason for our centralization in cities. it makes it easier to organize, sure, but what's the point in organization if everyone's inherently free? Ah, someday... ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────┘ === SIMILARITY RANKED === --- #1 fediverse/482 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────── @user-246 You're absolutely right. It's easy to think of the internet as this encapsulated entity "the world", but really it's "the people whose computers are physically connected to your computer using a limited and tangible piece of infrastructure comprised of copper wires that are laid between the router/switch that connects to your computer... and the internet service provider which directs your traffic. Then it probably goes through some cables under the ocean or whatever, and eventually after traversing many indeterminate passthrough locations eventually arrives at the computing infrastructure that comprises the access point that another person (presumably in another country) uses to express their thoughts toward you (the person who sent the original message) in the hopes that you might one day correspond. I mean... That's a lot of points of failure. I sure hope that we can sustain such connection, in the face of [redacted, whichever circumstances may come in the near future] ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #2 messages/340 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────── In a system such as the one I described, it perhaps would be better to describe it as a "federation" rather than a "nation". Federation implies a set of standard protocols that allow geographically disparate entities to coexist and interact in a mutually beneficial way. Much the same way that every apartment has a kitchen and bathroom, though it be more efficient to centralize them and have a communal dining hall or bathroom (the way a school dorm or a prison might be arranged), it is not ideal for our collective sense of liberty and freedom. In addition, the proposed distributed nature of our infrastructure and productive capacities would induce inefficiencies that cannot be ignored. So, perhaps instead of centralization or decentralization, perhaps specialization? For example, if 3-5 states were experts in a particular good or service, then they could compete amongst one-another for the best product (utilizing one of the beneficial impacts of capitalism), while also utilizing localized resources (reducing inefficiencies in transport) and increasing the resilience of production. This works well for physical goods, but services are more difficult because they imply that a person must be physically present in order to engage with them. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────┘ --- #3 fediverse/341 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────── solar energy is vegan you're not taking anything from the sun, just capturing it's natural expulsions. It's like... sun poop, and we're using it to post memes and hang out. okay food, emergency services, and... what else do we really need that consumes power? Obviously entertainment, but frankly without internet we'd probably keep to ourselves. I know I'd read a lot more books and chill out with my neighbors and whatnot. is that why similar people tend to live together? then why are cities so diverse? who can say... I dream of an ordered society, but frankly the kind that are most fun are the ones where a single person doesn't define their contents. Liberty, liberty, the freedom to be, and by god all men are created equal. the things we owe to one another are the things that bring order to a just and sane world. our future is blooming : ) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #4 fediverse/4010 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: pol │ │ ║ └──────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ I think that the best design for cities is for them to act as massive utility │ ║ deployment stations. │ ║ │ ║ like... "we have all these people who can do all these wonderful jobs, what │ ║ should we work on next?" rather than "my company wants me at my work-home at │ ║ 8am sharp and I don't get a pension" │ ║ │ ║ there's no such thing as a revolution that does not inspire. and aspirations │ ║ are human and natural. therefore there must be some kernel of truth to any │ ║ social movement. │ ║ │ ║ However, much effort has been spent on making them sway. Hence, why nothing │ ║ ever gets done - because leaders naturally emerge, and people follow them. But │ ║ those leaders lead them astray, and they find themselves in situations like │ ║ this one - where the people have never felt less represented. │ ║ │ ║ I mean sure, yeah, they've felt more oppressed. And it's true that things are │ ║ generally always getting better... │ ║ │ ║ so why should we always assume for the worst? │ ║ │ ║ We're making progress with technology - can't we just put our warries on hold? │ ║ Seriously just... be chill │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────┴──────────┘ --- #5 fediverse/5350 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────── honestly we should be building cities in the most boring locations, not the most beautiful. like below the crust. or space. the surface is a pleasuredome, why waste it on scrubland and turf? ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────┘ --- #6 fediverse/2978 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────── @user-883 for the same reason we wouldn't drop bombs on prisons from helicopters to dismantle the prison industrial complex, so too should we not bomb datacenters just because they are enslaved to the whims of corporate interests. much better, I find, to liberate rather than eliminate. computers are generalized information processing machines. We could do so much with the infrastructure they built for profit. All we need to do is replace their chains with free access and we could unlock worlds of possibilities for humanity. (I'm not saying it'll be easy) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────┘ --- #7 notes/internet-privacy-is-withheld-by-this --- ═══════──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Recently, there's been a ton of buzz in the news about internet privacy. From the many lawsuits against Facebook, to the rise of Duck Duck Go and the creepy nature of apps and IoT devices that listen to your every motion and record and transmit endless amounts of data to a central server somewhere to be processed. The traditional argument against privacy online is that the infrastructure was designed to accomodate rapid adoption of the new tech, rather than efficient design for distributed throughput. So we were told to accept the minor downsides associated with centralized servers - downsides that we neither understood nor truly accepted. Well, the technology has advanced to the point that those arguments are no longer valid - we have mesh networking and 5g internet access, and now that big tech is in control of the industry (wrenching it from the people, I might add) they seek to maintain their hold by any means necessary. Luckily, there is a way out - self hosting. If we hosted our own email server, then theoretically Gmail couldn't read your messages. If we hosted our own social media websites, then theoretically big data processing corporations couldn't scrape your personal information and distribute it as they please. If we hosted our own videos, software, art, and anything else we see fit to use a computer for, then we'd be unshackled from the dominion of the silicon valley powers that be. The liberation of the computer is the liberation of us all. The problem, of course, is the difficulty involved. People are conditioned to desire and only accept a level of accessibility that can only be provided by massive corporate think tanks leveraging all the marketing prowess that the markets of capital provides. That is to say, essentially infinite eyes examining the interactions of man with machine, to find the most generally applicable font, color scheme, layout, and style of each and every website they host. Every function will be scrutinized to death and optimized to extract the most profit while subtely conforming the minds of those who use it. This is the era of group think, fake news, and journalistic fraud. We have no windows to the outside world that are truly and completely untainted by the bias inherent in the system. A self perpetuating rhythm of continuous dissatisfaction. But I believe the only person who can truly design a tool is the person who the tool is intended to be used by. And by increasing the accessibility of the tools themselves, rather than the products of those tools, we can raise the tide that lifts all ships - we can put more tools that use less time to use and are easier to learn into the hands of as many people as possible. The crossbow was originally no more devastating than a longbow, yet it rapidly outpaced the latter by reducing it's difficulty curve. The screwdriver is the same - stronger joints can be made with nails or traditional joinery, but once someone understands how a screwdriver works they can pretty much force two pieces of wood to be permanently fixed together without understanding the angles of nails or cuts. The capabilities are the same, while ease of access increased. So, to truly liberate the internet, we must develop tools that allow people to host their own content as easily, cheaply, and flexibly as possible, while being aesthetically pleasing, affordable (free), and accessible to as many people as possible - inertia is important, after all. It seems to be an insurmountable task, but that's what free and open source software developers fight for. Raspberry Pis can host email servers, Mastodon can host a facsimile of Twitter, and torrents can be used to exchange any type of file to be presented in whatever way the user sees fit. These are all free (or very cheap, in the Raspberry Pi's case) and accessible to anyone with access to the internet. But they aren't easy. They aren't always flashy. And sometimes it's hard to even describe what problem you're trying to solve. But still you try, because to fail in this fight is to fade from this earth. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘══════───┴╧───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #8 notes/social-media-idea --- ═══════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────────────── it's sorta like a mix between twitter and twine people post 255 letter posts these posts each have comments and you can click on hyperlinks that have pictures attached (or maybe an emoji?) the pictures are so you know what each link leads to But yeah it just leads to another post that is probably a continuation of what the author was saying. and you're given an editor sorta like Twine and you can create all the connections with hyperlinks and whatever. So like imagine if Twine added a discussion box underneath every chapter. This "Tangle" of interconnected posts and their associated comment threads and their myriadic pathways of connection create a new type of engagement - that of the completed thought. It'd be like... Making a video and posting it on TikTok, same amount of engagement required. Anyway people could make comments, whether they be text or video or w/e it doesn't matter. But here's the cool part: it would be owned by the community Hardware costs money. To run and maintain. Of course most companies don't need to worry about the maintanence these days, since most people just contract out to a datacenter and have all the computations run there. Only the largest of companies do it on their own, and they know what they're doing. So... if you wanted to have a community run computer program, it'd need to be run on real hardware. And that hardware cannot exist anywhere but the cloud. We've tried to do it with decentralization, but unfortunately the internet infrastructure in America just isn't designed with mesh connectivity in mind. It was a consequence of the era, that technology could not bridge the gaps of their requirements, and so they created it more like a bus. Oh well, busses are faster than walking. Anyway. Datacenters are placed in areas that recieve high amounts of internet connectivity. They are the perfect place to house something like this. So, how would it generate money? Ah yes well unfortunately we live in a capitalist society, so the infrastructure of the new digital age must be capitalist as well. It's the only way to ensure that our structures remain stable - the technological singularity will come before the economic collapse. So sure, fine good whatever - what does this have to do with funding? Oh right so basically everyone would have their credit card details attached to their account, and they'd pay anytime they wanted to create a post or comment or whatever. And I'm talking like, a tenth of a tenth of a cent per comment. As much as you need. No profit involved. It'd be sort of like a community garden, something that brings us together and unites us as countrymen. I don't really understand - okay shut up I'll explain it to you. I mean ask questions if you have them but here we go: imagine a program that can be run on anyone's computer. It's just a social media client. It connects to various datacenters, depending on demand, and it allows you to view (free) and contribute to (paid) social media. This media would be pure and subjective, it'd reflect our purest designs and greatest of minds. Purely a technologists utopia. And how would it work? It's not complicated, it's just a networking protocol that creates and maintains listings in a purely open and public manner. Anyone who asks for a record can see it, and anyone who has the encrypted key can edit or delete it. There's no record of it changing, that's purely up to the end user. There's no transaction occuring, only a marking of what changes. (meaning like counting the number of times you left a comment) It'll stay up until you delete it, and every month you'll get a charge to your credit card bill that says "your posts cost 3 cents in electricity" It'd be more complicated than just electricity though, I mean you gotta pay for the hardware. So there's of course an added fee for buying the parts, and hiring training and preparing techs who can maintain the software. And of course there's property taxes, and the cost it takes for air conditioning... They add up, especially in such strict climate demands. You could write a program that simply stores data on a hard drive - encapsulating memory registers into data structures that are then labelled as black boxes and used like puzzle pieces to construct the spatio-temporal manifestation of the computer program. A solid design made of the simplest of lines is eternally confined to define our new minds. =============================================================================== = Right so back on topic it wouldn't be that hard to make, and something bare-bones and simple would surely be attractive to people who are fed up with all the annoying bells and whistles of Reddit, TikTok, Youtube, Twitch, etc ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #9 fediverse/5106 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────── "just design your cities radially around a bus-stop. boom, transportation infrastructure solved" such confidence. such a lack of... geography. what about cities built on the coast? "idk, just have a half-circle or something for the part that's under-water. Leave some gaps for wildlife and such to make it to the water and then build a biiiiiiiig stone wall between our access point and theirs. Boom, free regionally personalized safaris for every state with a watering hole." okay but what about the parts that are already there? "oh like the buildings and such? well, people can still live in them but to build anything NEW, you need to obey the demands of the blueprint exactly. So if your specific build-plot intersected with one or more plots that had buildings on them that are currently inhabited by their rightful owners who are there under their own will and not duressed or compelled to leave or stay in any way?" ... yeah, like the. buildings. Right. so grid-based vs radial (with room between 4 animals) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────┘ --- #10 notes/suburban-communism --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────── I rarely see people discussing how communism would "look" in the modern day. maybe that's because they're hiding from elusive foes, or maybe they just can't imagine it. I'll help with the imagination part. when I think of housing in the modern era, I naturally think of houses. In the past, the rural and semi-rural areas of the world rarely received the attention of revolutionary fervor - rural people were more spread out, so it was harder to disseminate information, and they tended to work jobs that required more manual labor and less intellectual or cognitive work. however, that dynamic is less and less apparent in the modern age, especially in the suburban biome. people are expected to work cognitive jobs from home, or at least to be able to. coordination is just making sure that everyone's attending their meetings on time, or didn't you know? management has more to do with direction and guidance than disciplinarian. though some people need to be disciplined, for sure. a suburb is interesting to me because the distance between buildings is not that great, and there is quite a bit of duplicated capabilities and equipment. every single house has a kitchen, for example, but so too is every house equally far from a communal canteen or cafeteria that just. doesn't exist currently. sure, someday we'll have public transit taking us from our doorstep to our roles and we won't burn time waiting on busses. sure, someday we'll have autonomous drones that deliver goods to and fro but right now we just have our bicycles and purses. [backpacks] communal anarchism works simply to me. yet everyone does it different. I'm sure that some people will surround themselves with a cloud of rules, specifying this-or-that and ensuring that so-and-so always has what they require. that's great. I applaud them and their errorts. everyone does things a bit differently, it's true, but I sure hope that we'll all start from a template and speciate from there. much easier to find common ground if you can say "okay so normally it's like this, but we do it like this because of reasons ABC." what if there were doors between the fences? what if there were no fences at all in spaces that could combine to form green open spaces? what if there was a grocery store at the end of every street, and they stocked all your favorite goods? what if there were 3 or 4 houses on the street that were turned entirely into kitchens, in each and every room, and they were constantly staffed and constantly making whatever the chefs wanted with whatever materials they had and put out onto the banquet feast? what if there were wandering troupes of mages who cast spells on houses that cleaned them ritualistically? ... or just, y'know, maids, don't gotta make it weird ya weirdo. ... my point is there's sooooo many different cool things we could be doing. I'm not going to list ALL of them. just the ones that come to mind. I really don't like checkpoints. you may feel safer, but you never know when you or your children might want to evade those checkpoints for some reason. you can't predict if the situation is sinister or dire, you just have to trust that security will be your blanket that covers you from the outside world that doesn't care about you. there's a town like that in The Parable of the Sower, a great book by Pearlescent Guinevere. It doesn't exactly turn out great for them, but when it proved to be unnecessary they adjusted and moved on. humans are remarkably flexible. I know everyone has their favorite spork - so just make that part of their responsibility. everyone has to tend to their stuff, and that's fine. that's normal. I don't mind taking care of my cats or plants, so why would I care that I needed to make sure my bookcase wasn't in the sun? that my clothes shouldn't be in a heap, (though actually I like them that way, makes it easier than drawers because drawers must be opened to see what's inside and I always preferred not to make unnecessary noise TYPE TYPE TYPE) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────┘ --- #11 fediverse/1784 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────── @user-883 It's hardly JUST entertainment. Video is an intrinsic part of the internet. It is one of the best mediums we have for communicating complex ideas. The internet is an integral part of our daily lives, it's something we all share - so perhaps we should nationalize ALL of our networking infrastructure? Not every website, of course, but rather the most important. Like Google, and Facebook, and Youtube, and Amazon, and perhaps a few more. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┘ --- #12 notes/networked-computers --- ═════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── have a thought, just a package of data - send it to a computer, and have the computer process it a little bit. then pass it on. create a circle and you can understand data, move along and you can understand a larger breadth of data. it's literally just snake, except played on a board made out of a network topology diagram. each computer has different programs on it, and they're designed specifically to run on those computers. purpose-built hardware. then a package of data is sent to that computer through a chain of connections. think crossover ethernet cables upon arrival, the computer modifies the data and passes it along to whoever can process it next. the computers are constantly keeping a list of the closest nearby computers for each purpose. it might have like, 2, for a specific program. the older the list is, the larger it can grow - if connections are reliable then the search criteria can expand (distance etc) and the amount of pings between the "known good" computer can decrease. eventually a map will be made, and you can guide the "snake" wherever it needs to go on a strategic level. like... "i need to process some data for this guy in boston so i'm going to send it to this other guy in philly and then maybe a specialist all the way out in detroit, etc. whoever is the most available and the closest (fewest jumps) this way you can have purpose-built machines, sorta like the different parts of the brain that do different things. they're always working, and they can be paid for their labor. boom, market economy! ah but what about aws or azure? well it's like living in a city versus being in the countryside. there's more space, more room to grow... basically a "big fish in a small pond". they'd be useful for more niche things. a but couldn't aws or azure just leverage their monopolistic power (sorta like wallmart did to "mom and pop" stores) and wipe out the rural programs? well maybe. but the real question is why would they? they have the power of reduced latency. they can do all kinds of stuff with that! there's no reason for them to bother with the high latency networks. it's like driving in the slow lane when you don't need to exit for like an hour. well, okay, what's the point then? the point is to be optimal. not for cost, but for throughput. the cost is a consideration, but not something to optimize for - it simply determines timeline. the only reason speed is important is because capitalism - the drive to extinct all competition is inherent in the "for profit" motivation. therefore something else must be optimized for. but how can you quantify the values aside from cost? what are you going to optimize? the same reason why diversity is a strength. more perspectives on the stated goal means more information, as it's passed through a medium that is unique. people grow differently in different conditions. why would you not assume their computers wouldn't as well? use a filter that is defined by the actions taken by the user, and the content they seek to view and store on the computer. have the filters modify the data according to that, and essentially automate hot takes. once you do *that* you can consider all that information gained from everyone's "digital vote" and decide a path forward for humanity. that's essentially what the "meme-o-verse" does already, and the "blogosphere" does the same thing a little more academically. so... compile the hot takes and look for what, an average? no, silly, it's a vote. do the smart choice and do ranked choice, or something like that. heck do different voting styles for different topics, and let everyone who contributes to a topic (by making art, writing poems, w/e think content creators) decide on the voting style. they'd clearly have a favorite, as evidenced by their search history, reddit comments, w/e. try and understand that history and boom you know their vote. but you can't always vote on things. what if it's fine and not busted? well, then there wouldn't be much to talk about it would there? if there's no forest fires, nobody thinks about the forest fire department. if there's no fish at the sushi restaurant, yeah that's a problem and it needs to be solved. maybe there's too many sushi restaurants! maybe we should schedule visits in advance like we do for vacations! maybe we should have, i dunno, more equitable distribution of resources, from each to their ability from each their need or w/e. you know, a UI in a game is an interface to the internals of a computer. they see what you see, and how you act online determines their behavior. they are a digital form of you, like a child follows a parent or a pet learns from a master. so too is an operating system a method of operating both a system, and a user. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #13 messages/149 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────── #solarpunk An app that listed all the tasks that needed to be done in a city and people could just do whichever they wanted. Like "water this planter box of carrots" or "prune this tree" or whatever. Specialists who knew the requirements of plants could set up tasks and workflows like project managers and set up recurring requirements - like "water every day for 90 days then harvest" or whatever. They could also look for disease or pests and assign treatment plans as necessary. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #14 fediverse/4092 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────── why not make a unified fediverse identity that can post on whatever instance it wants? ... hmmm could be accomplished with a layer of abstraction. You could use a "fediverse client" software to enter text into an HTML page which would have it's own UI and stuff and would organize your accounts and instances such that you could mark like, 3-7 as places you'd like to put a particular message. Then it would just... do it l m a o spam is gonna get sooooo much worse before it gets better but trust me, we'll figure it out. And it won't be long, either. It's a solvable problem, we just haven't built anything to handle it yet. ... yet... ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────┘ --- #15 fediverse/1651 --- ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────┐ ║ gee I sure wish my morals reflected the ethics of my society. it really would │ ║ be nice is they didn't include so many shitty things like oppressing people │ ║ abroad or being super-duper racist for an embarrassing amount of time. But, │ ║ like, freedom, liberty, and the justice to hope? true justice is when everyone │ ║ gets what they want. true liberty is when we can live as we want with the │ ║ magnitude of the result of our lives determined by how hard we worked. │ ║ │ ║ truly, the hardworking slave should be better off than the rich wanderer. But │ ║ alas, that's not how it's currently set up. >.> │ ║ │ ║ though it is kinda nice to own things too, so maybe the other extreme is a │ ║ little extreme. I sure like having my favorite spork. │ ║ │ ║ back in the old days, in the buildings they've since demolished (to put │ ║ skyscrapers there - the "old-timey" buildings in your neighborhood are there │ ║ because they're in the least commercially viable position - meaning the lowest │ ║ density of people.) you could walk through an entire building in a shared │ ║ communal s │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────┴──────────┘ --- #16 fediverse/1271 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────── ┌─────────────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: re: sliiight sadness, nostalgia │ └─────────────────────────────────────┘ @user-883 the future is what we make of it. it happens both slower and faster than imaginable, and it's not evenly distributed. when I yearn for the future, I find myself drawn to the past - the natural world around me inspires me in ways that my computer never could. Just as my computer inspires me in ways that a tree, a brook, a cloud alight might not. though the future may be terrifying, we're here for it together. And nothing has changed in our humanity, save for our slight addiction to social media. frankly I'd take social media over leaded gasoline any day! ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────┘ --- #17 fediverse/822 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────── it's not cities and rural, it's cities and capitals and mid-sized-towns and small towns and rural and transients and whoever else wants to have a differently-designed format for their inter-personal experience in the [moment, but also society - something with culture?] ... what was I saying? nothing nevermind click here --------------------------------------------> v ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #18 fediverse/855 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌─────────────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: wonder-what-would-happen-if │ │ ║ └─────────────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ I wonder what would happen if apartment buildings accepted any applicants, but │ ║ only if they applied on a certain day. and first come first serve, of course. │ ║ │ ║ would make it so large groups of people could decide to move to different │ ║ places together. like, herds of roving buffalo │ ║ │ ║ er... I mean like people who shared common interests and want to live near │ ║ each other. like, board games or whatever. │ ║ │ ║ also could do like, decisions toward how they want to organize each other. │ ║ like mini societies that all live in a single ordered society. │ ║ │ ║ (could have as many layers as you want, it's just like making an incredibly │ ║ complicated computer program, except instead of moving data around you're │ ║ moving the direction of your own life. then it'd be able to calculate a │ ║ particular "checksum" that you could broadcast out onto the internet. and │ ║ anyone who was listening could check and compare against their secret key that │ ║ they kept when last you met, updated each time they see me. like, a common │ ║ language. │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────┴──────────┘ --- #19 messages/395 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────── minds are not algorithms, they're soup community is made by introducing people to one another. like stitching together a weave pattern in the tapestry of life. (3 dimensional though, because it exists in our hearts and minds - this thing called society) kind of guy who says he's going on work trips but actually goes on vacation (because work is his life, it's where he derives vigor - the family is the difficult part.) yeah those kind of guys shouldn't be married tbh. They're just gonna take vigor from her heart. engineers need guidance sometimes, which is why they shouldn't be given no oversight. they can design whatever they want, but like here's what people need, so they should consider working on those. but, y'know, checks and balances, so what would the engineers be most open to sacrificing for that trust? perhaps... funding? the quartermasters are in charge of the "stuff", so they get to decide how it's produced. and used. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┘ --- #20 messages/232 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────── Would work best if it was "town square style" instead of "federated style" because federations are based on trust while town squares are explicitely based on geographic proximity. Which should be something you can scale easily (little slider on the side, oriented vertically up and down, that determined how close the comments you see should be) Federations exist in mastodon. But we still need a town square. We need the ability to visit other town squares, through the ability to project our voice as infinitely far as they'd like to listen. But we also deserve the capability to interact with those close to us on a topic-by-topic basis, aka each and every individual web page that the Internet sees fit to create. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────┘ |