=== ANCHOR POEM === ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────── ┌──────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: re: capitalism-mentioned │ └──────────────────────────────┘ @user-1074 ah but you see when "maximizing profit" and "maximizing value" sound like the same thing to those directing the corporation (as is the case anytime they have greedy shareholders) then "maximizing profit" doesn't have to be very efficient at all, as long as it's extracting the most "value" for the stakeholders (which to greedy shareholders is the same thing as profit) and honestly, who would invest in a company that isn't eternally growing as fast as possible? that's just bad business acumen, gotta pump those numbers up! ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────┘ === SIMILARITY RANKED === --- #1 fediverse/5177 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────── ┌─────────────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: capitalism-mentioned-four-times │ └─────────────────────────────────────┘ when they say "capitalism is a competitive game" what they mean is "capitalism is a game where everyone wins when someone else loses" and what we hear is "capitalism is a game of trying to screw you out of as much money as possible" and the truth is "capitalism is a game that you can't play" because 95% of the people who will read this toot are not stock-owners. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────┘ --- #2 fediverse/2844 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────── ┌─────────────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: re: politics-violence-mentioned │ └─────────────────────────────────────┘ @user-831 those billionaires are using their money as a weapon to "vote" toward what companies they think capitalism would most grow from. Unfortunately for us, they often aren't very efficient because they're only looking at what sells. human interest is not the only factor to optimize for, and yet that's the only one they're incentivized to. kinda makes me think that the only reason to replace them would be to institute something that could not be incentivized because it was more objective or decentralized. (the only reason they'd accept) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────┘ --- #3 fediverse/5235 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────── @user-1782 it's not that they lost value in their company due to the lack of sale of their products, but instead because they don't have to pay for marketing if their car looks "cool" enough and they can give them away for a lower blood price ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────┘ --- #4 fediverse/3447 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────── ┌──────────────────────────┐ │ CW: capitalism-mentioned │ └──────────────────────────┘ low key kinda pissed that all my ideas for starting a business require funding, because funding tends to be controlled by the "business major" types, and all of my ideas tend to involve wresting power from the MBAs and capitalists, which means they're unlikely to invest in me or utilize my ideas. unless of course it's crowd-funded, which makes me feel bad because it's taking money from the people I'm trying to empower. thus, power accretes in the hands of the wealthy, as the poor are too sick with capital-deficiency to develop ventures that would heal them, and the rich would not be rich if they did so themselves. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────┘ --- #5 messages/374 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────── "updating software" is when you go back and add helper functions for things you used had to do to solve a problem but didn't get a chance to make. Because you were making more important things and couldn't pad out all the possibilities. But if you want great software, then you both take more time to accomplish that and you give yourself time for it after it's been launched. Basically, companies are incentivized to only support their products if it makes them money. Meaning reputations are tarnished, and profit is affected. Capitalists intentionally drive businesses into the ground, forcing them to make terrible decisions in order to destroy them. It's a warfare against those on the [bottom/floor/ground-floor]. Some businesses strive for long-term potential, and some will create infrastructure that can be sold to another. Essentially, keeping the dream of learning alive, through applying yourself to both long-term and short-term conclusions. Not everything has to be for some grand design, we're here to relish in this moment. For if we lack the capacity to "frolic in the garden of eden", then we will surely drown. Space is vast, it's difficult to understand how we might control it. Surely we could be given aid to our future betterment!" how simple of a request, sure, of course, we would be glad to bring forth your bravest aspirations, just tell us what you need to be of need." oh, uh, neat. How about space lasers?" ... no " ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┘ --- #6 messages/1202 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════── Do you ever ask yourself why we don't have mountaintop bazaars or expeditions to the bottom of the oceans? Why we lack tree forest cities, how we're struggling to find moss, sunlight, crystal, stone, and gold, all in the same setting? Capitalism makes it easy to think of profit as all that matters. It's not. Its nothing of it. It's a metric like any other. Optimize it or not, struggle for what you believe in. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─┘ --- #7 fediverse/1827 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────── point is, you should take good companies at their word and bad companies for their goals. Surely, you can't blame the organism for seeking food. So clearly you can't blame an organization built to pursue profit to pursue profit. Maybe we should cut-out the middle-man and use efficiency evaluation methods defined by our common understanding of ethics and virtues instead of currency to determine the relative importance of continual investment in particular structural capabilities that companies provide to a nation. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┘ --- #8 fediverse/5198 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────┐ ║ ┌───────────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: capitalism-doom-mentioned │ │ ║ └───────────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ what if the corporations all unionized and started working together to │ ║ understand what "profit" really means in a world where "profit" may or may not │ ║ but probably does imply the death of all humanity? │ ║ │ ║ what if we demanded it? │ ║ │ ║ -- │ ║ │ ║ dear canvassers: don't visit so many different suburbs │ ║ │ ║ visit the same one, more than once, continuously, so people can get to know │ ║ your presence │ ║ │ ║ they will talk to their friends about it, who live elsewhere. │ ║ │ ║ thus ensuring it spreads. │ ║ │ ║ knock once a day, eventually they'll know it's you and will simply ignore it. │ ║ Don't be rude and knock 4 or 5 times, just once, with several taps so they │ ║ know it's someone trying to get ahold of you, and not just some random noise │ ║ in the background scenery. then, when they sometimes answer, talk to them │ ║ about what you believe in. answer their questions. encourage their questions. │ ║ pose dichotomies that are explained by some value or virtue you express to │ ║ portray. you can do "good" things in any programming language, just type~~ │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────┴──────────┘ --- #9 fediverse/2752 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────── ┌──────────────────────┐ │ CW: police-mentioned │ └──────────────────────┘ cops thought "enforcing the law" was their job when really it was "keeping the peace" and like, yeah, sure, laws define how they optimize for but sometimes the laws are just out of reach. (though such an impartialized system is also pretty flawed in it's own unique ways, like for example the enforcers of the law would be able to apply their law selectively, which... would not be great.) downside is... how do you dissent to those who cannot hear you? you have to break things which is why I believe that breaking things unnecessarily is unethical. sometimes you have to do a MORE unethical act in the pursuit of your goals, however nefarious or not they may be, but as long as they are done in pursuit of a greater grander truth, then... the ends justify the means? right?" ... ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────┘ --- #10 fediverse/5672 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────── ┌──────────────────────────┐ │ CW: capitalism-mentioned │ └──────────────────────────┘ companies aren't allowed to hire artists because they're busy making things and would reduce their focus levels graphics technicians don't design the media, they just implement. gross, where's the creativity->? oh, here in the boardroom, great -.- everyone gets a boardroom... jeez, how many companies do we need? ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────┘ --- #11 fediverse/372 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────── ┌────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: capitalism-algorism-societal-class │ └────────────────────────────────────────┘ rich people should only exist when they care for the things they own and accumulate wealth through a lifetime of restrained consumption and temperance. like, if we actually rewarded the 7 virtues instead of optimizing for ruthless profit extraction. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #12 messages/201 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────── When they owned a percentage they would get a percentage of control over the business and once it's 50% they buy it (stock follows, so if a person owned stock they'd be fine) The value is frozen, and everyone in the world can see what they did wrong. It's examined like a court case, and after a year or three it's decided on how it's going to be run in the future. Then it becomes private again, and all the stock is purchased from the owners at the price it was when the company "went under". ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────┘ --- #13 fediverse/4597 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────── ┌────────────────────────┐ │ CW: politics-mentioned │ └────────────────────────┘ what if we made marketing part of research and development I mean, they're the ones who need to know what products people tend to prefer right? so... for every ad give the consumers a choice. then you'll be able to tell if they prefer the red gameboy or the purple-see-through. frankly it just makes sense to have 50% of the income go to products and 50% to administration. I mean, what are all those executives up to anywho? Their joyrides on yachts are great for socialize, but are they really more productive than coffee-shops at noon? seriously like it's not that big of a deal to just... reduce their salary. unless it really is about greed? control? power? pfweh, I thought so. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┘ --- #14 messages/383 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────── the most successful strategy is always to strike from a position of strength. whether that be timing or power, the goal is to defeat the problem that lies before you. One by one, problems are solved, until at last you're through the worst of it. Then it's just a matter of expressing dominance, and "this is how thing's're gonna be." ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┘ --- #15 messages/584 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────── Crucially, which implied a constant, reliable profit of 20%. Farmers could live like kings, so long as they only tended to themselves. We don't have to conglomerate, but it helps when we do. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────┘ --- #16 fediverse/3231 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────── @user-1218 heh yeah. In a massive corporation you get half of all three for a total of 150%, and that half is further divided into 25% good and 25% bad because of miscommunication and the perils of massive organizational inertia. unless you're in the kind of corporation where the MBAs like to get their hands dirty. That's the kind of organization that's on a crash course with insolvency. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────┘ --- #17 fediverse/4287 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────── ┌──────────────────────────┐ │ CW: capitalism-mentioned │ └──────────────────────────┘ what if operations were required to be funded ONLY from revenue and projects were required to be funded ONLY from investment, communal, governmental, personal, corporate, or otherwise? and hey throw in the idea that profit MUST be utilized to improve the operation of the business somehow, because the wage of the employees IS the profit including the wage of the shareholders, who are employees that contribute their insight and collective will. (two tasks which frankly are much better suited to the employees doing the work, I might add) meaning if you want to be a capitalist you can't hide from taxes anymore by earning money from a company without being paid ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────┘ --- #18 fediverse/196 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────── ┌───────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: protests-and-strikes-and-mergers-and-acquisitions │ └───────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ economic warfare involves the destruction of other corporations (possibly in other countries) via a slow march toward haegemony. unions are the ships of the tumultuous capitalistic seas that protect workers from the storm. everyone should be a part of a union. the corporations can battle as they will, but we humans are not going to turn on each other. it's something they claim to know as an absolute fact, but really it's just based on a mistake. sorta like being deceived by happenstance. the sun lights up the sky until the earth conceals it, and night does return 'till the sky's next alive. oh, but the sky knows all too well the borders we draw in the sand. how cherished, how grand! the ways in which we choose to stand. upon whose land does your feet stand? marvelous. ... it's the same thing, just in a more abstract plane than the surface of the earth. really it's kinda one-dimensional (money is sorta like a 0 or a 1 - you eather have it or you don't) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #19 fediverse/896 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: politics-economy │ │ ║ └──────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ the purpose of an economy is to improve the lives of it's participants. │ ║ │ ║ why else would an ancient city trade for fabric or rare spices? to fashion │ ║ soft clothes, and make flavorful food. │ ║ │ ║ my, that gold sure looks pretty in the sunlight. how about you give some of me │ ║ that, and I'll make you something pretty? │ ║ │ ║ hmmm something something arbitrage once you corner the market on gold then you │ ║ can use that infinitely moldable and easily sculptable metal that shines and │ ║ glitters with a unique color not seen in the manes of plants and animals as │ ║ the definition of value. in doing so, you could exchange bits of it (measured │ ║ by weight, as it's infinitely moldable) for arbitrary goods and services. But │ ║ of course, once the market is cornered, it's unlikely to get un-cornered, and │ ║ well a cornered market holder holds much appeal for the powerful. │ ║ │ ║ hey, that guy's pretty strong. why don't we make him our leader? people seem │ ║ to look up to him, and dang his muscles are cool. what a great guy, nobody's │ ║ ever said a │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────┴──────────┘ --- #20 fediverse/4061 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────── ┌──────────────────────────┐ │ CW: capitalism-mentioned │ └──────────────────────────┘ the biggest problem with capitalism is that you aren't allowed to invest in things that aren't designed to make money. The best part of capitalism is that they'll never figure out how to charge you for friendship or love. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────┘ |