=== ANCHOR POEM === ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────── ┌──────────────────────────┐ │ CW: capitalism-mentioned │ └──────────────────────────┘ what if operations were required to be funded ONLY from revenue and projects were required to be funded ONLY from investment, communal, governmental, personal, corporate, or otherwise? and hey throw in the idea that profit MUST be utilized to improve the operation of the business somehow, because the wage of the employees IS the profit including the wage of the shareholders, who are employees that contribute their insight and collective will. (two tasks which frankly are much better suited to the employees doing the work, I might add) meaning if you want to be a capitalist you can't hide from taxes anymore by earning money from a company without being paid ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────┘ === SIMILARITY RANKED === --- #1 fediverse/3447 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────── ┌──────────────────────────┐ │ CW: capitalism-mentioned │ └──────────────────────────┘ low key kinda pissed that all my ideas for starting a business require funding, because funding tends to be controlled by the "business major" types, and all of my ideas tend to involve wresting power from the MBAs and capitalists, which means they're unlikely to invest in me or utilize my ideas. unless of course it's crowd-funded, which makes me feel bad because it's taking money from the people I'm trying to empower. thus, power accretes in the hands of the wealthy, as the poor are too sick with capital-deficiency to develop ventures that would heal them, and the rich would not be rich if they did so themselves. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────┘ --- #2 fediverse/2744 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────── ┌──────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: re: capitalism-mentioned │ └──────────────────────────────┘ @user-1074 ah but you see when "maximizing profit" and "maximizing value" sound like the same thing to those directing the corporation (as is the case anytime they have greedy shareholders) then "maximizing profit" doesn't have to be very efficient at all, as long as it's extracting the most "value" for the stakeholders (which to greedy shareholders is the same thing as profit) and honestly, who would invest in a company that isn't eternally growing as fast as possible? that's just bad business acumen, gotta pump those numbers up! ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────┘ --- #3 messages/886 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────── I feel that frugality and productivity should be valued in equal regard. A person who conserves should be valued just the same as a person who progresses. Yet we find ourselves in a capitalist system which demands the production of dollars to spend on rent, mortgages, groceries, bill payments, land-value-taxes, and all the other things besides. Would it not be better to ensure the grovetender has a space to sleep? The recycler has enough to eat? What of the mothers? Their children are their charges, they should worry less about financials. What of the artists? Their visions and imagined creations are worth more than their time working at a bank or a grocery store. Open source programming is the bedrock of all technology. It is not rewarded. There are countless examples besides. Give people the means to produce and they will - give people the means to maintain and they will. Currently, people have the means for neither. Only corporations and the few with wealth have the means to produce or conserve - everyone else just works in their sweatshops. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────┘ --- #4 fediverse/735 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────── I'd ask why of course, and then I'd try and find them a solution that didn't involve taking my stuff. They may need it more than me, but I still need it. Like... okay picture that feeling you get when in a capitalist society and you need dollars to live because they are a genericized and fractalized abstraction of all the various individual mazlowe's hierarchy of needs you have. Then, think of it like, instead of money being an abstracted form of all of your needs, think of your needs... each of them, the ones that matter to you, and abstract them into money. Basically say "yeah sure my time and my labor are worth dollars, I abstract my needs into money" and then you can kinda see why capitalism is harmful. I'd prefer to give them what they need, because society provides what I please, but alas I'm always kept wanting. What good is our capitalist utopia? what good is our hope? what good comes of us when all of us have learned how to cope? I think we could give a bit more if we weren't hanging from the rope ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #5 fediverse/374 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────── @user-278 kinda makes me think it'd be nice if we had some way to quantify the amount that employers taxed their employees? If people saw 50-70% of their paycheck going straight toward executive bonuses and stock buybacks or whatever... maybe then we'd fix things ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #6 fediverse/3949 --- ╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: politics-mentioned │ │ ║ └────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ less mutual aid posts, those should be handled by a person's community who │ ║ knows them and can decide how to best help them │ ║ │ ║ more "hey the guys and I are making a fund just in-case any of us need it - │ ║ it's at 30,000 now but we could use some more dosh if you wanna join you could │ ║ use it if you needed it but it's totally up to you no pressure - yeah yeah no │ ║ I get it. Okay, well, yeah sure I'll get my coat." │ ║ │ ║ oh huh did you know corporations exist to fill that very niche? │ ║ │ ║ turns out you can just... hire your friends and pay them a wage │ ║ │ ║ just don't get in trouble with the IRS, that's how they got capone │ ║ │ ║ (I bet you could hire a lawyer or accountant type to keep everything upright) │ ║ │ ║ Building out the legal structure is just like building software, trust me. │ ║ There's all kinds of forms and figures that match up to various pipeline nodes │ ║ and if you tick all the boxes (supply the right arguments) then the business │ ║ needs will be fulfilled. │ ║ │ ║ capitalism must be dismantled with it's own tools. For respect. │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────┴──────────┘ --- #7 fediverse/5276 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────── Efficient movement through all of the data, code, IS records, etceteras, git repositories, and all the other things, is the sign of a strong, capable, efficient company of co-developing systems. I used to work for a blue aligned computer chip company and every single team was impossibly siloed. they were so paranoid of losing their trade secrets that they blinded themselves. how brutal, to require that of them. and that's why it's capitalism's fault the reason it is so important to be able to utilize all the digital assets available is... because it's essentially free. and a massive productivity bonus. you can just... solve problems. then, make new problems, just to watch the juniors navigate through a scene or three. then, you know who to introduce them to. boom, free projects, as people plot and gamble around the dinner room table (which is located in the cafeteria by the way, it didn't rhyme to say so but it did when I added this explanation account) by exchanging ideas about how to make the world be ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────┘ --- #8 fediverse/3870 --- ╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌─────────────────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: politics-renewable-infrastrutre │ │ ║ └─────────────────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ "something something trump wants to faucet the PNW's water to the desert" │ ║ │ ║ oh, so you're saying that he wants to invest in a massive infrastructural │ ║ project which will help millions of people? And, uh, how does he want to pay │ ║ for that? │ ║ │ ║ Surely the best approach would be to make the people who use the most water │ ║ pay for it, right? I mean, it's ironic, and related, and it gives them their │ ║ just deserts, right? │ ║ │ ║ So make a tax (that's how you make people pay for things) and levy it against │ ║ Nestle, who bottles up all of the water in the desert and sells it for pennies │ ║ to brown people who can't afford to build water infrastructure because they │ ║ keep spending all their pennies on useless things like bottled water. │ ║ │ ║ And make it a big tax, please, so that they're forced to re-evaluate their │ ║ business model and divert wealth from their least contributionary workers │ ║ (aka, those at the top making millions) and spend it on something useful like │ ║ desalination plants or water turbines or whatever. │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────┴──────────┘ --- #9 messages/441 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────── Do you remember stores with floor-to-ceiling goods? The kind that didn't go bad, so you could afford to have lots of inventory. Not like it's being replaced and thrown out as soon as the executives with their profit margins decide that its no longer worthwhile. Here's an idea - how about executives are paid by the employees to manage their company? And if things aren't going right, they can get a new team. Like, if every team had control of their manager, I wonder what dynamics would emerge? ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┘ --- #10 messages/1151 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─── capital C communism is easy. Just pay everyone the same amount, and they can swim in the market economy waters as easily as any capitalistic fish, and suddenly their incentives are aligned - when one of us selfishly improves our lives, we improve the collective as well. When one selflessly improves the collective, all of our personal lives are improved. Then, optimize for radical abundance, the ability to have whatever you want as soon as ideal, and suddenly everything starts working out. P.S. the route to abundance is through recycling perfectly. Design your goods to be functional in that way, and you have infinite resources that can be used for infinitely many things (until they literally wear away to dust) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──┘ --- #11 messages/775 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────── if people want to be loved for more than their money, they should reject the lie that capitalism told them. they deserve their wealth because they are willing to serve. that willingness, whether through moral corruption or simply industrious drive, that willingness is rewarded, and when the system they serve is unkind... what does that tell you about their heart? that they'd sacrifice what is good and true for the material? materials are not bad. material is all we got, in a physical sense. but capitalism and it's servants are cruel and unwilling to concede to the idea that their games of unmatched exploitation are depriving the world bit-by-bit of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────┘ --- #12 messages/171 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────── Universal basic income AND universally distributed rations. If nobody goes hungry, then people can spend their money toward things they care about, and not things they need to live. Without the rations, UBI becomes just another tax, levied by the landlords instead of the government. With the rations, people can frolic in the street and do whatever they please. If you aren't too concerned about having enough to eat, why bother with capitalism? Why not just lie in a ditch? ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #13 fediverse/4702 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: mentioned │ │ ║ └──────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ high margin jobs: jobs that produce something which can be sold to capitalism │ ║ in exchange for dollars which can purchase things. Useful for abstracting │ ║ value and acquiring something that you don't have access to in your local │ ║ economy. │ ║ │ ║ low margin jobs: jobs that produce things for your local economy. This keeps │ ║ capitalist prices low and prevents you from being dependent on them for food, │ ║ clothing, houses, and other essentials. │ ║ │ ║ both are important, both are valued just as much. Your labor is what's │ ║ important, not the output. Existing alongside capitalism is nice because it │ ║ allows for certain abstractions, like the ability to magically turn goat │ ║ cheese into chainsaw teeth. │ ║ │ ║ However living UNDER capitalism is intensely alienating, which is why │ ║ alienated people will spend so much money at Magic the Gathering tournaments │ ║ or motorcycle midlife crisises or tupperware show-and-tells. │ ║ │ ║ This is useful for us because it means people can labor to un-alienate people. │ ║ Notice I never said you had to do it for free. │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────┴──────────┘ --- #14 fediverse/3387 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────── z-targeting is cheating, and everyone cheats. it's a race to see how can cheat the least. like tax loopholes - wealth is always more impressive when you did in the hard way, but most CEOs just buy a bunch of stock and let the company run itself. BORING. can we like... vote on how much each billionaire's dollars are worth? kinda feel like that'd solve all our problems while still giving them what they want. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────┘ --- #15 fediverse/1935 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────── @user-28 because "deserving money" to a reasonable person sounds like "deserving access to the goods and services that a pittance might afford" but to them "deserving money" means "did they earn those luxuries with their own luck and effort like me, a person who works very hard and definitely has earned everything I have" basically, a "blood sweat and tears" tax before you can have nice things like roofs and clothes and nourishment thing is... life is hard for people who need dollars. Their judgement reflects a lack of understanding of what people who lack resources go through. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┘ --- #16 messages/374 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────── "updating software" is when you go back and add helper functions for things you used had to do to solve a problem but didn't get a chance to make. Because you were making more important things and couldn't pad out all the possibilities. But if you want great software, then you both take more time to accomplish that and you give yourself time for it after it's been launched. Basically, companies are incentivized to only support their products if it makes them money. Meaning reputations are tarnished, and profit is affected. Capitalists intentionally drive businesses into the ground, forcing them to make terrible decisions in order to destroy them. It's a warfare against those on the [bottom/floor/ground-floor]. Some businesses strive for long-term potential, and some will create infrastructure that can be sold to another. Essentially, keeping the dream of learning alive, through applying yourself to both long-term and short-term conclusions. Not everything has to be for some grand design, we're here to relish in this moment. For if we lack the capacity to "frolic in the garden of eden", then we will surely drown. Space is vast, it's difficult to understand how we might control it. Surely we could be given aid to our future betterment!" how simple of a request, sure, of course, we would be glad to bring forth your bravest aspirations, just tell us what you need to be of need." oh, uh, neat. How about space lasers?" ... no " ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┘ --- #17 messages/538 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────── There are strategic goals and top down goals. Strategy is the domain of the execs. They must be as general as possible and justify their existence. They are the glue, the connectors, the people who know who to talk to in order to get things done. Tactics are the realm of the workers. They must be capable, dependable, honest and fair. They must diligently realize the goals of the strategic plan using whatever means they deem fit to address the tactical situation at hand. The more freedom they have, the more effective they are. These two forces are pitted in contest under capitalism. Under socialism, they are orthogonal to one another. Not a pyramid, but a cylinder on its side, growing from its base on one end to its zenith at the other. They are allies. They are similar, but distinct. Their roles may overlap at times, or perhaps not if they should not desire it. A person should be able to work wherever they like. They are the best judges of their capabilities. There are only so many resources, and if we vote on their distribution we'll give enough for everyone to share. And then we'll run out. Unless, of course, we *demand* sustainablity. Long-term, and ignoring profit but rather seeking to build capability. That is the only way to [ramp/snowball/scale]. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────┘ --- #18 fediverse/2017 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────── @user-1129 Lemme guess, the C-suite executives have profit as their main goal, right? And they utilize their laboring force of citizens to generate profit which is given to the crown shareholders as tribute for their benevolent grace and favor bestowed upon checks notes the C-suite executives, right? Kinda sounds like taxation without representation to me. One sec, where's my darn musket I'm always leaving it somewhere strange like under the couch cushions or taped underneath my desk or hidden in the curtains right next to the window that has the best vantage point of the surrounding street. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┘ --- #19 fediverse/5496 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────── ┌─────────────────────────┐ │ CW: weirdness-mentioned │ └─────────────────────────┘ "why bother disadvantaged and vulnerable people when you could just grow your own?" - motivations of a capitalist-in-regard empowerment requires strength. do you force people to unbecome the victim? how are your traps mentally prepared? ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────┘ --- #20 fediverse/5205 --- ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: capitalism-mentioned │ │ ║ └──────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ whenever I talk to capitalists (who actually have money and aren't larping │ ║ wage slaves) they always tell me that the best way to address the concerns I │ ║ have with capitalism is to make a million or more dollars by making a company, │ ║ and then using that million dollars to buy houses for people I care about. │ ║ │ ║ I ask "what about the rest of the people, the ones I don't know?" │ ║ │ ║ their response typically boils down to "if you don't know them, then why │ ║ should you care? fuck 'em" │ ║ │ ║ It's never about hope or change. They want to change the world to make it │ ║ cooler, not kinder. generally. │ ║ │ ║ bonus: "if you like unions so much, why don't you join one?" my guy, unions │ ║ WERE great when they wielded power. Now they are bureaucratic and listless, │ ║ serving only to sedate the working class enough that they stop complaining and │ ║ get back to work. They are functionally a part of the enslavement system, a │ ║ built-in course correction mechanism to ensure capitalism remains solvent when │ ║ the powerful overstep their humanity. │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────┴──────────┘ |