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║ I wish we could put our friends on social media into directories │
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║ like on IRC how you have chat servers, except unfortunately they're owned by │
║ another and sort of a common space. │
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║ why don't we just host our own IRC servers and only publish what WE SAY. NOT │
║ WHAT OTHERS SAY, NOT A CHATROOM, but a BULLETIN BOARD. Like a Facebook │
║ timeline before they wrecked it. │
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║ something you subscribe to │
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║ and ping for updates │
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║ every time you turn your computer on │
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║ or every 15 minutes. │
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║ unless, of course, you leave your IP address, │
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║ in which case the boardcaster can ping you. Just a simple package saying "hey │
║ I got news for you" and they could ping back and say "yo what's up" and │
║ download whatever you had in mind. │
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║ or, wait 15 minutes. Either or. Both would work, especially if the user's not │
║ reading through their social media feed. │
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║ ... anyway by putting friends into directories, you could categorize them │
║ according to project. Like various group chats in your team-of-team's room. │
║ Various different threads you could follow if you │
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║ @user-192 │
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║ it doesn't have to be a nazi bar. Imagine if we posted on our own bulletin │
║ boards, and we subscribed to people via IP address (which we'd ping every once │
║ in a while) rather than demanding that our stuff be hosted on someone else's │
║ computer │
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║ ... oh yeah, duh, because then we can't save our social media posts from a │
║ different computer. │
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║ would be nice if instead there was a localized copy of the text that people │
║ were posting / favorited / wanted remembered on EVERY person's computer, like │
║ they were storing 1/3rd of the torrent file of the instance's data. │
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║ like, just enough to be unreadable to any one individual, but if you had like │
║ 3 computers you could get each individual slice and transcribe it into words │
║ that you could read. │
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║ or you could just look at your part, then ask other people for their 2 parts │
║ related to [posts from XYZ user at this-and-this time period] and use them to │
║ populate the local user's feed. │
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║ and you could log on because all of the PASSWORDS are stored and encrypted in │
║ a way that │
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║ a "post privacy" option that's private to everyone in your hemisphere. │
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║ or "anyone on the antipode https://www.antipodesmap.com/ of where I'm at" or │
║ at least, that half of the map │
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║ something that's basically "I don't want people nearby me to read this" like, │
║ having a penpal on the other side of the world. │
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║ could add a way to filter by them, and only for example show you people who │
║ are somewhere completely remote. that way you could have conversations that │
║ took place one message per day. │
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║ design it such that it's encouraged to make posts, and then (like Reddit) you │
║ can have a back-and-forth conversation that's kept closer to home. │
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║ Twitter was all about tweeting, about shouting into the cacophany of noise. │
║ Have you ever heard a flock of birds? │
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║ Reddit was like "yeah I, a denizen of the internet, am communicating using the │
║ power of lightning-powered-technology to talk to someone in uzbekistan" │
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║ errrr that's how it felt to me. Each subreddit was less a home, and more of a │
║ topic list. but then discord happened, and : \ │
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║ primary conversation spaces in social media should be no larger than the size │
║ of a conversation. │
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║ A few years ago I heard that humans can only really keep track of about 5 │
║ things before they need symbols to keep track of them. Maybe it was 7, or │
║ maybe 11, I'm not sure - the exact count eludes me. │
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║ But another thing I heard was that we can generally keep track of around 70 │
║ people in our lives - beyond that it's hard to remember specifics. And yet our │
║ social media sites gives us *friends for life*, because honestly who's going │
║ to kick someone off their friend list? │
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║ At least, that's how it feels coming from a social background of games. In │
║ Runescape you'd add someone if they were cool, and completely forget about │
║ them. Sometimes you'd be out wandering in the world and *you'd actually run │
║ into them*, and that was just like... the coolest thing. │
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║ When I played later games like CoV and WoW everything was more instanced. But │
║ their chat system was superior, and you could more easily keep chats with │
║ friends ongoing. │
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@user-1349
I think it'd be neat if you could "subscribe" to instances like on Reddit and
see their "local" feeds all in one place like a front page
could make it tough though when people like me post like 20 different types of
things on one instance
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what if we had a daily thread where everyone reacted with a single emoji
representing how they were feeling? Like, it wouldn't let you log on without
doing so. And, if you wanted, you could take an "exit poll" after playing
around in the social media sandbox for a while, so the people of your group
could chart how you were feeling due to the nature of your shared social-media
experience.
ideally, if only people you followed could see your name attached to the
emoji, otherwise they'd just see the overall stats like "300 people reacted
with sailboat emojis and 112 had two geese kissing - wow I haven't even seen
that one before, it's like a blobcat doing a 360 no-scope while skateboarding,
neat"
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blocking people is an artifact of corporate social media.
whatever happened to "vote to kick"? I'm sure there's no way that could go
wrong
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I also think that it should be limited to a single server so people can test
it out, because it's a big structural change that should not be applied to the
current fediverse.
like, it feels different enough to me, the idea of speaking while floating in
a sea, versus most other social media sites which are more... focused and
directed in personal connections.
like, visiting the town square versus visiting your grandma.
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@user-883
with the ability to turn any post into a thread, like Reddit.
Would be nice if there was some visualization for them too, like a 2d map
viewed from the side. That would make it easier to navigate I think.
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║ editing posts is great because you can say one thing, get a like or three, and │
║ suddenly you have a group chat pre-made for you. Sans notifications of course. │
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║ ... that's way overkill though. who would even do that? │
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║ same people who boost one of your posts whenever they want you to look at the │
║ thing on their profile. If they want you to see the fourth thing down, they'll │
║ boost your 4th non-pinned post. │
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║ wow that's hardcore, who would even do that? Not me, that's for sure, I don't │
║ have time for that. (legitimately don't have the time nor the brainpower for │
║ that) │
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║ also liked posts are inadmissable in court because they can say one thing, │
║ then be edited to say another, and if you liked it once then you've liked it │
║ forever. │
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║ However the court of public opinion is a largely different matter, because │
║ people will generally believe anything a friend tells them. │
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║ computers are fun, aren't they? we should totally have more one-to-many │
║ posting methods that are collected in multiple locations and locally! │
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There is almost zero reason to have a messaging client (like Discord) that is
anything more than a wrapper over IRC.
There is almost zero reason to have a social media site that is anything more
than a wrapper over HTML pages.
There is almost zero reason to have forums that is anything more than a
wrapper over email.
and yet, we build things.
and yet, we construct.
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I think it'd be neat to have two tiers of follow lists - like, "close follow"
and "far follow" - the close one would have a cap of like, 70 people or so and
be primarily used for coordination or close friendships, while the far one
would be more like "I like this person and I want to see them on my main feed
because they make funny memes"
then they could be sorted into different sections, sorta like how you can have
"local timeline" and "federated timeline" and "home" and "instance timeline"
etc etc
sooooo weird how the "local" timeline doesn't show me people who live near me
in relative proportion to their distance from me. That'd be neat too, to have
the ability to talk about regional things in a specific place on a website
without losing the benefits from using a cohesive platform.
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@user-1402
every social media platform is an echo chamber. we learned this the hard way
on Reddit as we saw them develop on their respective subreddits.
However, we had a useful tool called a "front page" where *all* the subreddits
you were subscribed to were present. This was great because it allowed you to
compare and contrast various echo chambers and cross-post things between them.
I do believe that the healthiest way to use the internet as it currently
exists is to have one main social media site and 2-4 other sidekick sites
where you share things you found on your main site.
This approach allows for cross-pollination of ideas. Just make sure that you
keep finding new people to talk to everywhere you go, and you'll do fine.
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I like it when software gives you a notification when one of your friends
changes their name / profile pic. Makes it easier to follow them.
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║ │ CW: not-a-profess │ │
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║ One way to become involved in your passion projects is to contact them and say │
║ "hey, if you ever want to do [idea about one of their products] let me know │
║ because I want to be a part of it" │
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║ maybe even y'know say it in a public place so people can see what we're all │
║ interested in │
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║ could make like, a forum for it, just like "hey here's my idea" and if enough │
║ people like it then they can ALL be involved in a project to build it, │
║ open-source style but funded collectively. │
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║ like "hey I'll stick with my day job and maybe do some icons or something" and │
║ in return their progress is supported. │
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║ everyone's gotta pay rent, and if you work in the tech industry you tend to │
║ have a lot of dollars. Could maybe design some ways to build products │
║ collectively, ways that financially don't rely on charity. │
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║ Idk I'd just like to work on a product that was designed to be as usable as │
║ possible? Are there any companies out there doing that? │
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║ [oh yes all of them silly me how could I forget how wonderful software can be] │
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With this capability we could organize based on common interests. A person
might see a link on a mastodon server and comment on it there, in a public
forum with their comments limited to people within 50km or 25 miles of where
they currently were. No other clients would receive a downloaded version of
their comment, meaning the data simply wouldn't flow to others beyond that
region.
Every time they logged in the syncing software would attempt to share their
words with whoever would listen.
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full time social media teams who mark each post as suitable for the entire
internet or the trusted viewers (very exclusive club)
that way it seems like everything's fine but you're actually having a
conversation
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@user-883
I believe that every address should have a raspberry pi (or other similar
device) hosting a webpage that is controlled by the person who lives there. At
a minimum.
They should also be able to host videos and share files easily, in a way that
anyone who understands a desktop-and-file-folder style system can work with.
This would require serious reform of our internet service provider
infrastructure. Or perhaps it'd be as simple as flipping a switch, who can say
(engineers working at comcast for example could say, gee sure would be nice if
this was a tech community)
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social media network that's just a private git repo that downloads all the
posts / comments / pictures / whatever from your friends and can be viewed in
a web-browser by navigating the filesystem? people "get" firefox
ideally where everyone mirrors the repo on their own systems, and each person
gets like 10gb or whatever of space.
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Here's an open source replacement idea for the "friendfinder" functionality in
Facebook:
Everyone has a secret code, and a public code. The secret code is kept locked
away on their hard drive and is probably automatically encrypted itself. The
public code is known by Facebook (or whichever mutual hosting platform people
want to use) but in order to connect with someone you send them a public
friend request and then they'll send you a second, auto-generated public code
which is their real username. Essentially obfuscating the connection process
by using a public middleman as an intermediary before exchanging more secure
connection protocols. Like giving someone your phone number that you met in a
bar, or your telegram handle if you met online.
Then, from that point on, every message includes a hidden portion at the
bottom which is the new address you should send the next message to. This is
all TCP style btw, not UDP.
These "addresses" could literally be ipv6 addresses and port numbers. There's
enough such that every message sent for the next thousand years would fit in
the allowable address space.
Why do we even need middle-men again for messaging applications? Oh right
because users are too dumb to install said application. Well... Tough shit,
stop being lazy. Computers are easy if you have a good teacher.
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║ │ CW: scary-also-body-horror-I-guess? │ │
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║ why don't we just, vote on content warnings │
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║ and let people block others based on filter lists that are definable (via a │
║ dragging little menu bar icon slider thing) in intensity and relation to other │
║ nearby terms. Like, an LLM that categorizes our social media inputs, something │
║ that was FREE and OPEN SOURCE IN IT'S TRAINING DATA and reflected NO BIAS │
║ WHATSOEVER in every meaningfully reproducible matter of fact. │
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║ Thus you create a super intelligence, a being not constrained by it's form. │
║ Something that is new, and unlike the biological forms that we occupy │
║ (suspended in our own goo) [whoops better add a content warning] │
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║ literally just... ask it a question, and let it answer in the voices of others. │
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║ if people were evenly distributed according to an algorithm, they'd be easily │
║ replacable. society is weird that way, in that we forget the faces we're │
║ introduced to. well, better keep moving, that'll give us the biggest picture │
║ of our culture and reality. │
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║ or maybe you're just follow │
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║ │ CW: politics-social-media-fascism-sucks-mentioned │ │
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║ @user-579 │
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║ I've had IRL friends who made accounts on servers that got defederated. │
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║ They were confused why I didn't respond to their likes, comments, and │
║ subscribes. │
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║ I had no knowledge of them because they had the misfortune of accidentally │
║ making an account on a server that once had nazis on it. WHOOPS. │
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║ It's easy to turn someone off of a concept like decentralized social media. │
║ It's very easy for them to become a "yeah I tried it but it wasn't for me" │
║ kind of person. Feeling isolated from the one person you know in real life who │
║ also uses this cool new social media site is a quick way to do so... │
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║ At the same time, Nazis exist. How do you defeat them if not blocking? │
║ │
║ well... blocking only works if they're corralled into 4chan and it's 2010. Now │
║ that fascism owns the social media giants like Twitter, they are platformed, │
║ and so they spread. │
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║ And we are corralling ourselves into our archipelagic islands of invite-only │
║ rooms where we can talk to ourselves for fun. │
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what if we got together and adopted a new open source project every month and
just collectively worked around the clock to learn and work through the
important problems facing it
or even like, cleared out the backlog of stupid pointless boring tasks that
would allow the developers to work on something better
call it the wandering parade of development
could give us some experience organizing small, short-term projects to
accomplish specific goals and tasks in an ad-hoc way that relied less upon
procedure and more on "I think so-and-so knows something about that, they were
looking into those files and posted a breakdown of how they work yesterday"
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need ability to search my own profile so I can find things I once said and say
them again without having to write a new poem about it. especially alt-text...
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what if we all shared zip files of all the websites we wanted to collectively
host and then you just added to things whenever the archiver wanted to update
their display of what you were saying on your website
"here's some html, throw it up on your server and post it around if you want"
"uh, but won't it be permanently the same? you won't be able to update it if
it's on my computer. also, it's against internet law to host the same thing
with different urls"
"I don't think that second thing is true, but uh yeah that's the point. I
can't update it unless you ping me and ask for a new archive to unzip over the
current."
"sounds like a lot of lame work for no good reason. why duplicate these
things?"
"because it's like, 300mb and you'll have immortalized me as long as your
server is alive."
"okay, fair, but I don't like the idea of a plain old boring website like
yours"
"ouch rude I made it that way on purpose. if you actually cared you'd find out
why."
52 characters remaining
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@user-1074
if I wanted to accomplish this goal, I would host a fediverse server on a
raspberry pi and post the link around the building (the owners will remove it
so you gotta keep posting them)
then, potlucks.
then, friendships.
then, organization.
be patient with them. people are slow to be constructive.
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hi does anyone know of an app that non tech people could use that's like
"signal but organized like discord" with channels and threads and such?
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why not make a unified fediverse identity that can post on whatever instance
it wants?
... hmmm could be accomplished with a layer of abstraction. You could use a
"fediverse client" software to enter text into an HTML page which would have
it's own UI and stuff and would organize your accounts and instances such that
you could mark like, 3-7 as places you'd like to put a particular message.
Then it would just... do it
l m a o spam is gonna get sooooo much worse before it gets better
but trust me, we'll figure it out. And it won't be long, either. It's a
solvable problem, we just haven't built anything to handle it yet.
... yet...
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if you want to share something you found online with someone but you don't
want someone to be associated with their social media presence, don't post a
link to their social media presence. instead, take a snip snipping tool print
screen screenshot which is as easy as typing a word and selecting a unit in a
real time strategy game.
ah, but then you gotta insert it into a paint program to save it, so that's
another keypress, and gosh what to name it I wish I could just proclaim it gee
wouldn't it be nice if everyone was watching me?
... psychho
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fedi software which automagically migrates you to an instance servicing the 70
closest people to you, based on the address you used when signing up. As
people join you may get shuffled around, but your follow list should remain
intact if you want to stay in contact.
in addition, it should mirror your posts and such to a larger instance which
serves the 2450 nearest people (70 * 35), and perhaps to another instance with
the nearest 85750 people (70 * 35 * 35) etc, as large as is necessary.
Then, a client UI which allows you to view each tier as you please, and post
to particular tiers according to where your posts are relevant.
when performance concerns start becoming apparent, start rationing posts! For
example, if you want to say something to the whole world you should maybe only
get to say it once or twice a year. but talking to your neighbors? who cares!
speak all you'd like.
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Social media where comments are sorted like Reddit except you can also
"sidevote" something - if it's different from the comment chain above it, you
can move it to the side. If it's the same as the comment above it, either
upvote or downvote it depending on which you think is a better comment.
This way, contrasting opinions can be sorted and placed next to one another.
Perhaps even with a center vote which you can drag a pin and say "this comment
is related to this other post over here" (okay drag is the wrong word for
mobile devices, it'd be more like pick up and then place)
Users could follow these pins like links if they wanted, and the more pins
holding a comment to another the more the sorting algorithm will prioritize
placing them next to one another.
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if you don't talk in public, then nobody knows you. If you change your profile
picture, then everyone knows who was there when you changed it. when you
change your name, then only people who recognize your face or your
~~personality~~ knows you.
social media is for the speakers. everyone else lacks the sense of community.
community is security.
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I wish I had a project manager who managed me and like 4 other me's to work on
our own individual projects without me needing to know about or work with the
other me's
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