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@user-646
oh, I see. guess I had the same problem hehe - let's see:
basically I'm saying that the incentives for manufacturers are unaligned to
the desires of the consumers (or rather, the best interests of the consumers)
- reduced consumption of plastic == less plastic waste poisoning our
environement, which is what you mentioned in the original post.
then I said "well we still need to make SOME of the cheap plastic, the kinda
that isn't recyclable, the kind that is technically cheaper because economics
of demand" and then I was thinking of ways around that particular problem.
Then I got onto another thing about the economy, and the word count cut my
words short because I started saying something I shouldn't.
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@user-646
will continue until you tell me to stop:
industry works best at scale, and in order to produce materials that are
needed for very specific use-cases (that can't really be done better by
something else) you often need to make large batches of said material. In this
case, plastics.
if the production capabilities exceed demand, then there is a surplus of a
certain kind of material. And that's not good, according to capitalists,
because who's ever heard of national stockpiles? Plus, maybe that stuff goes
bad, I don't know, I'm not an expert, but without that context it seems to me
that instead of turning it into junk that we're just going to throw away, we
should probably keep hold of it. Literally just put it in a warehouse in Utah
or whatever.
I feel like then, in a world where those cheap plastics aren't being used for
consumer products, we'd be encouraged to buy the plastics that were recyclable
(not all plastics are), or extremely durable, or even just metal/wood products
instead. econ, /shrug
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║ industrial purpose but to make a little you kinda have to make a lot, and yeah │
║ they pollute and are bad for the environment but we have a whole lot of them │
║ made, so wouldn't it be cheaper to just use it for consumer products? │
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║ hmmmm. why can't we just like... store it? and then scale down on production, │
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║ like, if you break shit, you shouldn't have more things. If everything's │
║ expensive (and durable) then people spend less because their stuff doesn't │
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║ problem is the economy is "healthier" if everyone's spending. thus, creating │
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@user-324 @user-325 @user-326
thus enters the promise of technology: that we might solve the problems of
bureaucracy once and for all by ever more effiency-aligning mechanical
processes that produce effects which we desire - such as efficient allocation
of medical resources such that all of humanity is protected from the ravages
of pain and the incongruencies of our nature.
Alas, that we should only conceive of success through the lens of profit.
Perhaps another design is in order?
(oh yeah also people who are in control are worried that we, like all other
examples of natural entities, might immediately proceed to breed beyond the
capability to cater to the needs of said entity (such as "to feed" and medical
resources) and therefore might overburden (and therefore destroy) said system
which allows for their sustenance and initial creation. To this I say... Yeah
probs, what should we do about it?)
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if tech CEOs wanted to solve REAL problems they'd think about things like how
every girl has a drawer or box FULL of nail polish and it really, really
doesn't need to be this way.
For example, picture a fleet of delivery drones that let you swap nail polish
with people nearby for basically zero-dollars per month.
that's just one example, but that class of problem is the problems that affect
a certain class of people that tech CEOs fundamentally do not care about - and
yes I'm referring to people who paint their nail polish themselves. AKA women,
and poor people who can't afford going to a salon every week.
problem is....... for every solution like this you design, well suddenly you
have a lot more applications for it than the consumer needs or wants. like for
example what if they delivered grenades instead of nail polish. NOT GOOD.
much better, I find, to abolish the powers that would utilize such murderbots
BEFORE inventing the murderbots : )
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"updating software" is when you go back and add helper functions for things
you used had to do to solve a problem but didn't get a chance to make. Because
you were making more important things and couldn't pad out all the
possibilities. But if you want great software, then you both take more time to
accomplish that and you give yourself time for it after it's been launched.
Basically, companies are incentivized to only support their products if it
makes them money. Meaning reputations are tarnished, and profit is affected.
Capitalists intentionally drive businesses into the ground, forcing them to
make terrible decisions in order to destroy them. It's a warfare against those
on the [bottom/floor/ground-floor].
Some businesses strive for long-term potential, and some will create
infrastructure that can be sold to another. Essentially, keeping the dream of
learning alive, through applying yourself to both long-term and short-term
conclusions. Not everything has to be for some grand design, we're here to
relish in this moment. For if we lack the capacity to "frolic in the garden of
eden", then we will surely drown. Space is vast, it's difficult to understand
how we might control it. Surely we could be given aid to our future
betterment!" how simple of a request, sure, of course, we would be glad to
bring forth your bravest aspirations, just tell us what you need to be of
need." oh, uh, neat. How about space lasers?" ... no "
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point is, you should take good companies at their word and bad companies for
their goals.
Surely, you can't blame the organism for seeking food. So clearly you can't
blame an organization built to pursue profit to pursue profit. Maybe we should
cut-out the middle-man and use efficiency evaluation methods defined by our
common understanding of ethics and virtues instead of currency to determine
the relative importance of continual investment in particular structural
capabilities that companies provide to a nation.
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@user-1399
kinda makes me feel like the structures and institutions that allowed that to
happen (for-profit companies) maybe shouldn't be given such power.
they obviously can't keep themselves from out-polluting each other in their
silly little race of competitiveness.
why would we allow that to happen? It's a bad move all around. Nobody wants
plastic bits in their testicles.
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Kinda seems to me that in a post-scarcity world we should be incentivized to
take care of stuff. And what better way to do that than reward the people who
demand the least? Seems like an economy would be a pretty good way to do that,
as long as you cannot hoard power over others and strip them of their rights.
In this lecture I will go over my proposed solution, please save your
questions to the end. Now if you turn to page 256...
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@user-641
it's practice. you never know when you might need to blend in. really it's
just useful as discipline, good practice to be in. I think it's okay if we
reduce our own functionality? actually? sometimes it's good to use different
email clients. hey do you know how to mathematically encrypt things well
neither do I because the designers of the computer system decided that wasn't
a very common usecase I guess.. jmean it's not like they'd spend all that
computer resources [THEY'RE SO FAST] on thinking about correlations in your
predicted pathway narratively through life. "ah help I'm in a psyop" haha yeah
we do those all the time "so uhhhh I guess we'll just talk to people and see
how they do?" wow okay it's sure nice to be part of a civil government, I
think we can find our way to the lumber producers just fine thank you very
much.
... oops sorry, a baby did electronics arts (challenge everything) I'm a
little silly don't mind me brb I gotta go see~
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@user-820
the reason they do that is because they want to alienate you as a customer.
your needs are too specific, they are not that of the majority where they
derive their profit. so they dismantle the operational functionalities
necessary to provide the product that you are adapted to, that best suits your
needs. In doing so, they perhaps save some money, you can't tell of course.
why would they tell you why they're hurting you by depriving you of a product
you depend on?
how cruel
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Economies are capitalist things.
I personally think if you have stuff right here, and it needs to get over
there so that so-and-so can use it to make this-or-that which will then be
taken to other places, then the answer is clear. The stuff has to move from
over here, to over there. The rest is logistics, not economics.
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I'd rather a massive corporation waste a medium amount than a bunch of tiny
corporations wasting a tiny amount.
Like, the Post Office (which is really what Amazon is) instead of
=========== =stack overflow ==========
Dear Post Office: if you replaced amazon with a simple GUI and database that
corresponded to "what people wanted and from where" to the current system of
"picking things up from a location and putting them somewhere else as quickly
and efficiently as possible", I think you'd realize that a massive threat to
American economic prosperity is due to the crushing presence of inequality.
Which, my dear, could be ameliorated with a simple application that a
university student could make if given enough time and direction. Like, a year
or two tops, using industry standard technology.
The problem is of course the fact that things like aesthetic standards are so
demanding - a plain HTML website, like my website, technically provides all
the same information. But could be written in an afternoon.
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the neat thing about tech is that it scales really well.
The price of TVs is through the floor, everyone has a smartphone, and
raspberry pi's are less than 100$
solar panels will be next. Trust.
we should still dismantle coal and oil, obviously we should, but at a certain
point it will be inevitable. They're just too expensive for too little gain.
the neat thing about tech is that it scales in a way that is just impossible
for infrastructural projects like housing and hospitals.
building a home is hard to do, especially when you make them out of sticks and
glue. think like a dwarf - stone never fades.
sunlight, moss, underground, endless in the shade
have I mentioned that the most difficult problem facing mechanical engineers
at the moment is universal recycling?
I want to work on those kind of problems, not resolving tickets.
nobody even gave me a chance to do them, instead demanding... labor. great.
the one thing I suck at.
[you suck at a lot of things, actually]
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║ "see, the part that you're missing is if you abolish capitalism but also │
║ ensure technological abundance then all you've done is removed humanity's │
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║ "no. But I will anyway. if everyone can do whatever they want, nobody will │
║ want to do your dishes for you. they might if they care about you, but if they │
║ don't know you, then they won't. Care is not organization or assembly, it is │
║ personal and cannot scale. If technology has made all resources abundant, then │
║ why would someone care about the art that you made? if they want to be │
║ sedated, they can just inject drugs and listen to music all day. If they want │
║ to be entertained, AI will generate them whatever they want to see. Art loses │
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║ my, that gold sure looks pretty in the sunlight. how about you give some of me │
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║ hmmm something something arbitrage once you corner the market on gold then you │
║ can use that infinitely moldable and easily sculptable metal that shines and │
║ glitters with a unique color not seen in the manes of plants and animals as │
║ the definition of value. in doing so, you could exchange bits of it (measured │
║ by weight, as it's infinitely moldable) for arbitrary goods and services. But │
║ of course, once the market is cornered, it's unlikely to get un-cornered, and │
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║ to look up to him, and dang his muscles are cool. what a great guy, nobody's │
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@user-774
I know that when you recycle 3d printed things the color tends to meld
together and it looks kinda meh... but hey at least it's recycled.
though recycled filament is probably pretty rare still, so it's probably not
the kind you're thinking of.
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║ if people pirate media, it's more of an indication that they'd rather spend │
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║ yeah, so... maybe we need something more than Marvel, Disney. Maybe we need │
║ more cool, small games from designers who believe in what they're doing. Maybe │
║ copyright holders should demand a standardized cut, rather than exclusive │
║ distribution rights. maybe maybe maybe. │
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I know it's not like that but I'm intentionally framing it that way to make a
point about societal exclusion.
nobody should be excluded.
nobody should have to harm their friends to come by making them sacrifice
their [time/labor/paycheck] in order to bring them along.
we live in a post scarcity society that insists on commodification of
everything
we don't have to. A better world is within reach. It sits there, twinkling
like asbestos resting at the base of a snowglobe, while we search and ponder
and endlessly analyze how society sucks.
there is nothing left to analyze. all that we need is to put our hands to a
task and our feet to grass.
the rest will come, and it'll come easier with time and focused attention.
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@user-916
most people think vegetarianism is about animal ethics. Some sorts of
vegetarians think vegetarianism is about health benefits. These entrepreneurs
mentioned here think it's about health benefits because they're thinking "oh
well maybe someday in the future we'll be able to 3D print the "animal" fat we
need for this application, then we'll be able to appeal to ethics vegetarians
too."
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The military, I think, should focus on building cheaper versions of the best
stuff available, so we can have more of them to dispatch in a fight. Having
classes of weaponry that's farther developed behind than the precision machine
can be better than throwing away billions of computer parts. Steel and rocket
fuel to a long way, and besides its not like we need all that rock (metal) or
oil (fuel) anyway. So... It pays to be efficient. Find the best cost/value
parameter and minimize cost in human lives. There, long-term best strat. Best
strat ever? Plus the citizens would be happier meaning they can make more GDP
meaning they can make more weapons to play if they saved in their pockets. And
distributed it to others we helped, to allow them do to as they pleased. Or
have you forgotten the American way? More mechanics, more technicians, more
logisticians, more celebrations.
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