=== ANCHOR POEM === ═════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────────────── Kinda seems to me that in a post-scarcity world we should be incentivized to take care of stuff. And what better way to do that than reward the people who demand the least? Seems like an economy would be a pretty good way to do that, as long as you cannot hoard power over others and strip them of their rights. In this lecture I will go over my proposed solution, please save your questions to the end. Now if you turn to page 256... ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────────┘ === SIMILARITY RANKED === --- #1 fediverse/1964 --- ╔════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: capitalism-mentioned │ │ ║ └──────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ the greatest trick that capitalism pulled on us was to convince us that the │ ║ needs of a corporation were synonymous with the needs of an individual. │ ║ │ ║ you, as a person, should apply yourself toward goals and ends that matter to │ ║ you. And "getting money" is not a goal or an end, that's a means. Money allows │ ║ you to achieve goals, which is why it feels so unfair that some people are │ ║ just... born with the right to achieve all of their goals. For free. │ ║ │ ║ Kinda makes me think that with great power should come great responsibility. │ ║ And remember kids, money is power, because money is time and there's nothing │ ║ more immutable than time. We're all sharing this single moment, yet somehow │ ║ some people have more dominion over this moment than you or I. Why? Well, it │ ║ is their birthright of course, because they were born into a family with │ ║ wealth. │ ║ │ ║ Achieving goals is a need, by the way, as precious as food or water. If you │ ║ don't achieve your goals, you wither away and starve (spiritually, at least). │ ║ How cruel - │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────┴──────────┘ --- #2 fediverse/4974 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────── ┌──────────────────────────┐ │ CW: capitalism-mentioned │ └──────────────────────────┘ Economies are capitalist things. I personally think if you have stuff right here, and it needs to get over there so that so-and-so can use it to make this-or-that which will then be taken to other places, then the answer is clear. The stuff has to move from over here, to over there. The rest is logistics, not economics. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────┘ --- #3 fediverse/2177 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────── Oh, you want solutions? Yeah, I can do that. I am a very solutions oriented mindset. But developing solutions requires a firm understanding of what resources are at your disposal. Which is information that I lack. Hence, my practice, filling the gaps between the important bits. I have an endless array of stories, and all of them are true! Come, listen as I regale of an ordy, or "ordeal" as the kids are taken to call. ... I guess I could guess, but then people would hear it and assume that it would work even if I don't know that the required resources are in place. Maybe I could just start by saying "here are the requirements:" like stating your variables at the stop of a script. huh? typo told me to stop. Okay guess I'm going to sleep, bye for now ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┘ --- #4 fediverse/6116 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────┐ ║ "see, the part that you're missing is if you abolish capitalism but also │ ║ ensure technological abundance then all you've done is removed humanity's │ ║ capability to organize in essentially any meaningful capacity without │ ║ providing an alternative heuristic that guides people toward assembling into │ ║ greater and greater forms to accomplish greater and greater tasks." │ ║ │ ║ oh, um. that's quite a take, can you tell me more about that? │ ║ │ ║ "no. But I will anyway. if everyone can do whatever they want, nobody will │ ║ want to do your dishes for you. they might if they care about you, but if they │ ║ don't know you, then they won't. Care is not organization or assembly, it is │ ║ personal and cannot scale. If technology has made all resources abundant, then │ ║ why would someone care about the art that you made? if they want to be │ ║ sedated, they can just inject drugs and listen to music all day. If they want │ ║ to be entertained, AI will generate them whatever they want to see. Art loses │ ║ meaning as a messaging medium, and humanity loses it's voice" │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╧══────────┘ --- #5 messages/83 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────── Native people should have the right to walk wherever they want. It should just be... given to them, as a gift to their heritage. Why not? If someone asked them to leave, they should. Doesn't have to have a reason but like, wouldn't it be thematic and a (frankly token) gesture to the history of this great land? Ah but like... fences are an implicit expression of the retraction of consent. I believe that as the symbol of the encroaching force that consumed them, a fence means nothing to their tribes. It's a stupid excuse to section off the world into miniature gardens with their own little economies and systems and instructions. Why can't people just live wherever they want? Well... economics, I guess, which is why communal based systems are best. We've learned through the downsides and we've come up with a solution, it's just a question of how to do best. We'll figure it out, time and time again, but for now the future is beset by riddles of your jest. (Ure). Gesture. Sometimes when the memory is full a syllable will get cut off the end of a word and that's how it'll come out. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #6 fediverse_boost/5370 --- ◀─╔════════════════════════════[BOOST]══════════════════════════════─────────────╗ ║ ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ ║ ║ │ I went to a talk lately that was mostly about something else, but the speaker came out with: │ ║ ║ │ │ ║ ║ │ “If you only remember one thing from this talk, remember this. Everyone in this room who likes helping people, raise your hand.” │ ║ ║ │ │ ║ ║ │ Every hand, or nearly every hand, went up. │ ║ ║ │ │ ║ ║ │ “If you like asking other people for help, keep your hand up.” │ ║ ║ │ │ ║ ║ │ Almost every hand went back down. │ ║ ║ │ │ ║ ║ │ “As you can see, people like helping you. When you ask for help, you’re making them feel good, even if you don’t like asking.” │ ║ ║ │ │ ║ ║ │ I’ve genuinely forgotten the rest of the presentation but I won’t forget that. │ ║ ║ └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ ║ ╠─────────┐ ┌───────────╣ ║ similar │ chronological │ different ║ ╚═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────┴───────╝─▶ --- #7 fediverse/1732 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────── here's an idea - if we can't get rid of the carbon right away, why not increase the total volume of our atmosphere such that it's more dispersed? like dissolving a salt in a solution, only with air and [insert pollutant here] ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┘ --- #8 fediverse/5792 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────── best way to stay mentally active is to keep your mind and body thinking. "but what if you're most active when you're on a downward course?" well then you're landing the plane dearieader, ready to refuel and stock up. [hearts are full, awaiting commands] if anyone cares about that particular thing in particular, just know that America is a culture and if you live here you're part of it. Like anyone with a ticket is a guest at the movie theatre, the staff don't need them. ... idk where that came from. Wasn't I going to write this into a notepad note? haha oh yeah ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────┘ --- #9 fediverse/3931 --- ╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌─────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: politics-mentioned-DRM-media-piracy-pol │ │ ║ └─────────────────────────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ if people pirate media, it's more of an indication that they'd rather spend │ ║ their money elsewhere rather than an indictment of their character. │ ║ │ ║ torrenting movies is easy. Kinda makes me think all media should run on a │ ║ "tip" system where you pay for better service after receiving service. │ ║ │ ║ I mean, after all, that's how they justify underpaying restaurant workers, │ ║ isn't it? │ ║ │ ║ "if they want more money, they should work for it" │ ║ │ ║ yeah, so... maybe we need something more than Marvel, Disney. Maybe we need │ ║ more cool, small games from designers who believe in what they're doing. Maybe │ ║ copyright holders should demand a standardized cut, rather than exclusive │ ║ distribution rights. maybe maybe maybe. │ ║ │ ║ truth is nothing will be solved unless the problem is addressed at the root. │ ║ For every hole you patch in the boat, there's a guy walking around with a │ ║ hammer. │ ║ │ ║ Honestly... I don't believe there's any reason for someone to be a millionaire │ ║ except to compete on the "wealth" leaderboards. │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────┴──────────┘ --- #10 fediverse/484 --- ╔════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────┐ ║ Our ancestors look forward in [positive version of trepidation, like │ ║ anticipation but explicitly good] so let's not let them down, shall we? │ ║ │ ║ Hah, trick question. They know where we're going. They know what they worked │ ║ for, which is why they did what they did to build the world that we have which │ ║ we stand upon as a giant might be upon the shoulder of another and together we │ ║ reach toward the horizon. The future is bright! I know it in my heart. I know │ ║ what we seek is within sight, so- │ ║ │ ║ yeah sorry to interrupt but like, I don't want to go to work tomorrow because │ ║ all I do is sell people candy and beer at the convenience store down the │ ║ street [insert any "meaningless" job] and frankly it's just a little demeaning │ ║ and boring │ ║ │ ║ sure, okay, yeah, that speaks to the idea that we should replace capitalism │ ║ (the system that defines your employed existence) with something that aligns │ ║ more toward human dignity │ ║ │ ║ but what is dignified if not the capacity to succeed? Capitalism, as proposed │ ║ by it's favored, is a system of or │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────┴──────────┘ --- #11 fediverse/3370 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────── I know it's not like that but I'm intentionally framing it that way to make a point about societal exclusion. nobody should be excluded. nobody should have to harm their friends to come by making them sacrifice their [time/labor/paycheck] in order to bring them along. we live in a post scarcity society that insists on commodification of everything we don't have to. A better world is within reach. It sits there, twinkling like asbestos resting at the base of a snowglobe, while we search and ponder and endlessly analyze how society sucks. there is nothing left to analyze. all that we need is to put our hands to a task and our feet to grass. the rest will come, and it'll come easier with time and focused attention. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────┘ --- #12 fediverse/1358 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────── ┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: content warning: content warning: scary cursed maybe │ └──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ when you're rich with something, you don't treat it with respect. like, if we lived in a paper cup maximizer, we'd soon be swimming in the things. obviously there needs to be some rules, obviously we need to say "okay here's where we produce this amount and type of materials." and have it be a one-way relationship. yeah one way isn't gonna work. this is from the other way, and now I'm realizing "oh hey I don't know how this thing works" and like... what are you supposed to do then right weird how it all feels like it's ending. like, what a strangeness to our plight. like, how are we even talking to our brain? how strange! these words are sung to you by your computer (content warning: ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────┘ --- #13 fediverse/462 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────── I don't care about capitalism. You know what's more interesting than bringing value to shareholders? How I'm going to clean this floor that I drunkenly spilled beer upon with only 2 paper towels and 0.1ml of bleach. How I'm going to feed the 36 people who are coming to this social event tomorrow that I've only sorta planned for and that I have enough groceries for, but am not quite sure how to cook everything in a way that is delicious and accessible. how I'm going to climb this mountain on only 2 eggs and a tiny bowl of hashbrowns even though I promised my friend I'd be strong and that we'd reach the top because that way we'd be able to ============= stack overflow ===== ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #14 fediverse/944 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────── @user-646 oh, I see. guess I had the same problem hehe - let's see: basically I'm saying that the incentives for manufacturers are unaligned to the desires of the consumers (or rather, the best interests of the consumers) - reduced consumption of plastic == less plastic waste poisoning our environement, which is what you mentioned in the original post. then I said "well we still need to make SOME of the cheap plastic, the kinda that isn't recyclable, the kind that is technically cheaper because economics of demand" and then I was thinking of ways around that particular problem. Then I got onto another thing about the economy, and the word count cut my words short because I started saying something I shouldn't. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────┘ --- #15 messages/1000 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────── Question... Do you either: A. Wait for the fall Or B. Become the fall One puts you in a better position, with the initiative and momentum. The other is reactionary and not solutions focused. "ah, but how do you ensure that everyone's listening at the same time? Keep listening, tselen dear, for your life is not just your own story." ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────┘ --- #16 fediverse/434 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────── @user-324 @user-325 @user-326 thus enters the promise of technology: that we might solve the problems of bureaucracy once and for all by ever more effiency-aligning mechanical processes that produce effects which we desire - such as efficient allocation of medical resources such that all of humanity is protected from the ravages of pain and the incongruencies of our nature. Alas, that we should only conceive of success through the lens of profit. Perhaps another design is in order? (oh yeah also people who are in control are worried that we, like all other examples of natural entities, might immediately proceed to breed beyond the capability to cater to the needs of said entity (such as "to feed" and medical resources) and therefore might overburden (and therefore destroy) said system which allows for their sustenance and initial creation. To this I say... Yeah probs, what should we do about it?) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #17 fediverse/3765 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────── ┌──────────────────────────┐ │ CW: capitalism-mentioned │ └──────────────────────────┘ me: "the entire capitalist project is borken! We must start from scratch! We can start from scratch! For the good of all mankind, we shall utilize our vast potential for good and benevolent ends, and to that end we must begin by dismantling capitalism!" also me: "hey what if we made capitalism suck less" because like, I don't know the future. I'm just a person, remember? wink gotta have backup plans ready no matter which way it goes. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────┘ --- #18 fediverse/5597 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────── ┌─────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: re: MH---, sui ideation │ └─────────────────────────────┘ @user-1370 If you don't have the energy, then people need to take care of you. Maybe they do anyway. If you're anything like me, and in this regard I think we might be similar, having people take care of you is important. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────┘ --- #19 fediverse/4349 --- ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: re: uspol │ │ ║ └──────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ @user-883 │ ║ │ ║ best case scenario, we elect a lawyer working for capitalism, the kind of │ ║ society we live under. │ ║ │ ║ having money is the same as having resources. And resources allow you to apply │ ║ yourself to a goal. The more you have, the better, but they each bear a heavy │ ║ load. │ ║ │ ║ Do you sacrifice your labor? your dignity, your honor? what do you burn on the │ ║ fire of wasteful expenditures, just for the power to rent? │ ║ │ ║ I'm saying that if you don't have money, you need to think about what you can │ ║ do with what you got, because that's how you pay for things, at least until we │ ║ decide that we'd rather help each other than work on capital's games. │ ║ │ ║ you have a house though, right? a place to live until it gets hot? that's good │ ║ enough for right now. Stay where you're at, do what you can to help. Get in │ ║ the habit of it. Think about how someone will complete their task, and then │ ║ think about stuff two or three steps down the road - what tools will they │ ║ need? what are they working on next? Can make any of those availble? │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────┴──────────┘ --- #20 messages/783 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────── I understand good and evil. If you want a lecture, you know where to find me. I'm not here for that. I'm here for you. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────┘ |