=== ANCHOR POEM === ╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: MTG-capitalism-mentioned │ │ ║ └──────────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ If you automate art, there'll be no more artists. │ ║ │ ║ If you automate capitalism, there'll be no more capitalists. │ ║ │ ║ Perfect! That's what we want, right? So that we don't have to work jobs for │ ║ them? They wouldn't exist, after all, if everyone went on strike. │ ║ │ ║ But that kind of coordination is hard. So why don't we just automate │ ║ capitalism? It's certainly doable, a lot easier than automating art (which is │ ║ impossible btw, but bear with me) │ ║ │ ║ If you want to automate capitalism, you must first automate Magic the │ ║ Gathering. │ ║ │ ║ There are several ways to win a match in Magic. You could reduce your │ ║ opponent's life counter to 0, you could force them to draw from an empty deck, │ ║ and you can give them 10 poison counters. │ ║ │ ║ These are KPI's, and developing a critical path to reach them will depend on │ ║ the composition of the player's deck. Each deck will approach the conclusion │ ║ of the game in a different way, and developing solutions to reach those goals │ ║ is part of each player's responsibilities on their turn. │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────┴──────────┘ === SIMILARITY RANKED === --- #1 messages/319 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────── Alright ya'll, if they're going to automate our jobs out of existence then perhaps its time we started doing the same to them. I mean, they're working on automating not just creative jobs, but also most office jobs as well. Leaving only menial labor to us, which is "fine" I guess. But perhaps we can "strike back" as it were and dismantle capitalism at the same time. Does that sound like too much to hope for? I think not! It's simple really, we just need to design a generic and compelling alternative to buying stuff with a credit card. Okay, it's a bit less simple than that, and I never said it would be easy. In fact, getting people to agree is the hard part. So can't we all just agree to attempt different things in different places as the locals define? Seems natural to me. And now the part of the post where I point a finger at you, yes you, the person reading this post. Are you willing to think about alternatives to capitalism? Are you willing to utilize the tools of our masters to break the chains of those enslaved? Are you willing to put effort into facilitating the development of crucial systems which may one day govern our day-to-day? If yes, then perhaps you'd like to listen as I explain how I envision the near future may look, as we plod onward day-by-day toward our bright fully automated luxury gay space communist future, where nobody has to hunger and nobody has to hurt. Not unless they consent, of course. Ah, shit, I should probably have prepared a presentation or something. Gimme a sec. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────┘ --- #2 notes/ai-variables --- ═════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── saturday november 5th 2022 10:53pm the illusion of our binary nature conceals a truth that is hidden for it's own sake. the flavors of a compass or the values from 0-100 are all measurable. if you graph each of them on an X/Y plane and compare them against every other variable, then you can build a structure that traces a line through time. imagine each graph on a sheet of paper. and stack those pages like a book. You can chart a 3d line from all of the interconnections between the graphs - essentially comparing unrelated data and conceiving of individual actions as "successes" or "failures". Liiiike in Supreme Commander how the game is decided not by team fights, but by tank fights. And a LOT of them, in aggregate, makes an advantage for your team if you win, and a malus if you lose. Less map control, less resources in play, etc... Find trends between each type of data measured over time. Dedicate one core/thread to each relationship, and just watch them develop over time. send the results up to a "manager" - think an interconnection between disparate parts that can lead them all to a larger goal - the manager processes the results by thinking about where it'd be most useful. Like the circuitry in the inside of a brain, compared to the outer skin which is for processing. Essentially a message network that passes conclusions around like a bytecode VM Here's how it'd look: gather inputs, compare measurement over time and trends, (like "when a goes up b goes down") and decide if the current state is positive / beneficial. The way you'd do that is you'd get a parameter from a higher position (think KPI's) that says something like "we want value S to be around X amount" or "we want to avoid letting J get too low - any decrease is bad V.S. it's only bad when it passes a certain threshhold. Stuff like that. Anyway, basically it's taking input (from the graphs) then going through them one by one and deciding how positive or negative the situation is. Then it passes that conclusion backwards, and BOOM you got a processing node. Throw a bunch of those together in a pyramid shape, and try to guide the triangle toward positive outcomes. The top tier KPI is "did you win the match" or "did you accomplish your goal" sorta like how humans all want to live a good life. It's instinct. You can see how this would apply to robots, right? I've conceptualized it as an engine for playing games - sorta like an infinite storyteller, or a perpetual friend who's always down to play with you. But it doesn't have to be limited to that - it's general purpose baby. And it functions the exact same as any human organization - layers upon layers of thought exchange and labor. Have you ever considered that maybe we exist simply to reify the structure of our minds in the world around us? It's natural to express your *self*. Be who you are. What purpose is there in life if it's simply the tip of time? Always pushing forward, impossible to stop and rest or turn back... ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #3 fediverse/4881 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────── one section of the government consistently and succeedingly telling another part what to do is a coup-like behavior. if the rules mean nothing, then what is your job even for? hence, why the rules mean something. Because your job is important. It's building up our capabilities as the human race. you don't have to work to live. you shouldn't, and you won't. it's not your place to labor. know why? because nobody's job is impossible. You can just... work together to get things done. Then they're done! and you never need to solve them again! enough time of that and we'll have turned earth into a space station, not a moon style structure. like... wouldn't it be neat if coruscant could do hyperdrives? I wonder if hyperspace is real. Ah, well, that's for the future, they can pass it along if they get a chance. Anyway for now I think I want a chance to dance. OLED screens are incredibly cool to me. The idea that a pixel could "turn off" and put less photons into the atmosphere is wild to me. I love it! -OLED ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────┘ --- #4 fediverse/4566 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────── ┌────────────────────────┐ │ CW: politics-mentioned │ └────────────────────────┘ I want modern society without capitalism. Most people do, which is why no matter how awesome our proto-post-capitalistic anarchic socialist paradise is, there's always going to be people who want to go to work and watch TV. call me fucking crazy but they should be allowed to live as they please? So what if they're beguiled, so what if they are deceived? We can take our time to show them how much better things can be, but also... they like modern society as it is, and so I reckon someone should fight for them to be able to live as they please. Just... without billionaires and endless layers of bullshit micro-managerial jobs and paperwork pushing bureaucratic whatever time wasting jobs. modern society without capitalism can look like plain old capitalism, just without the oppression. Without the coercion. all I'm saying is that nobody's gonna fight for a healthcare CEO because they're scum. They're scum because they oppress. oops politics-mentioned brb I personally want communes + love ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┘ --- #5 fediverse/4349 --- ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: re: uspol │ │ ║ └──────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ @user-883 │ ║ │ ║ best case scenario, we elect a lawyer working for capitalism, the kind of │ ║ society we live under. │ ║ │ ║ having money is the same as having resources. And resources allow you to apply │ ║ yourself to a goal. The more you have, the better, but they each bear a heavy │ ║ load. │ ║ │ ║ Do you sacrifice your labor? your dignity, your honor? what do you burn on the │ ║ fire of wasteful expenditures, just for the power to rent? │ ║ │ ║ I'm saying that if you don't have money, you need to think about what you can │ ║ do with what you got, because that's how you pay for things, at least until we │ ║ decide that we'd rather help each other than work on capital's games. │ ║ │ ║ you have a house though, right? a place to live until it gets hot? that's good │ ║ enough for right now. Stay where you're at, do what you can to help. Get in │ ║ the habit of it. Think about how someone will complete their task, and then │ ║ think about stuff two or three steps down the road - what tools will they │ ║ need? what are they working on next? Can make any of those availble? │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────┴──────────┘ --- #6 fediverse/4110 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────── ┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: government-corporations-capitalism-mentioned │ └──────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ if you have a job, your life is dictated by your corporation just as much as it is by your government. And yet corporate leaders are not elected, but rather selected. And that is unfair for all the reasons that primogeniture was. It is unjust for all the same reasons that monarchy was. It is a tool of oppression, just like autocracy is. The world will never be free until we can be as we choose to be. Our society is simply too enmeshed with capitalism to destroy it, but we could, with the minimal required effort, dismantle the corruption and authoritarian control that is wielded against us as we weld our own chains day after day. We can replace them. We can vote for them. We can select leaders who know more than us and are better suited for the role than those who seek only to maximize profit over all else. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────┘ --- #7 fediverse/735 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────── I'd ask why of course, and then I'd try and find them a solution that didn't involve taking my stuff. They may need it more than me, but I still need it. Like... okay picture that feeling you get when in a capitalist society and you need dollars to live because they are a genericized and fractalized abstraction of all the various individual mazlowe's hierarchy of needs you have. Then, think of it like, instead of money being an abstracted form of all of your needs, think of your needs... each of them, the ones that matter to you, and abstract them into money. Basically say "yeah sure my time and my labor are worth dollars, I abstract my needs into money" and then you can kinda see why capitalism is harmful. I'd prefer to give them what they need, because society provides what I please, but alas I'm always kept wanting. What good is our capitalist utopia? what good is our hope? what good comes of us when all of us have learned how to cope? I think we could give a bit more if we weren't hanging from the rope ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #8 fediverse/5159 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────── ┌──────────────────────┐ │ CW: unions-mentioned │ └──────────────────────┘ spies need a union. what if we collectivized the military [first] instead of the economy? they kinda already are, it's just... very hierarchical. can you imagine the president asking the army's union rep to bomb some country in (almost said israel because it rhymed, lol) the other half of the globe? that'd be silly they'd ask questions like "what stuff do you want bombed and why" and then they go back to their people and discuss it however they will, and then they come back and say "we will do as you command, for we can accomplish it within our means and we have decided it is strategic for us to do so." ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────┘ --- #9 fediverse/4702 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: mentioned │ │ ║ └──────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ high margin jobs: jobs that produce something which can be sold to capitalism │ ║ in exchange for dollars which can purchase things. Useful for abstracting │ ║ value and acquiring something that you don't have access to in your local │ ║ economy. │ ║ │ ║ low margin jobs: jobs that produce things for your local economy. This keeps │ ║ capitalist prices low and prevents you from being dependent on them for food, │ ║ clothing, houses, and other essentials. │ ║ │ ║ both are important, both are valued just as much. Your labor is what's │ ║ important, not the output. Existing alongside capitalism is nice because it │ ║ allows for certain abstractions, like the ability to magically turn goat │ ║ cheese into chainsaw teeth. │ ║ │ ║ However living UNDER capitalism is intensely alienating, which is why │ ║ alienated people will spend so much money at Magic the Gathering tournaments │ ║ or motorcycle midlife crisises or tupperware show-and-tells. │ ║ │ ║ This is useful for us because it means people can labor to un-alienate people. │ ║ Notice I never said you had to do it for free. │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────┴──────────┘ --- #10 fediverse/5205 --- ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: capitalism-mentioned │ │ ║ └──────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ whenever I talk to capitalists (who actually have money and aren't larping │ ║ wage slaves) they always tell me that the best way to address the concerns I │ ║ have with capitalism is to make a million or more dollars by making a company, │ ║ and then using that million dollars to buy houses for people I care about. │ ║ │ ║ I ask "what about the rest of the people, the ones I don't know?" │ ║ │ ║ their response typically boils down to "if you don't know them, then why │ ║ should you care? fuck 'em" │ ║ │ ║ It's never about hope or change. They want to change the world to make it │ ║ cooler, not kinder. generally. │ ║ │ ║ bonus: "if you like unions so much, why don't you join one?" my guy, unions │ ║ WERE great when they wielded power. Now they are bureaucratic and listless, │ ║ serving only to sedate the working class enough that they stop complaining and │ ║ get back to work. They are functionally a part of the enslavement system, a │ ║ built-in course correction mechanism to ensure capitalism remains solvent when │ ║ the powerful overstep their humanity. │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────┴──────────┘ --- #11 fediverse/6116 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────┐ ║ "see, the part that you're missing is if you abolish capitalism but also │ ║ ensure technological abundance then all you've done is removed humanity's │ ║ capability to organize in essentially any meaningful capacity without │ ║ providing an alternative heuristic that guides people toward assembling into │ ║ greater and greater forms to accomplish greater and greater tasks." │ ║ │ ║ oh, um. that's quite a take, can you tell me more about that? │ ║ │ ║ "no. But I will anyway. if everyone can do whatever they want, nobody will │ ║ want to do your dishes for you. they might if they care about you, but if they │ ║ don't know you, then they won't. Care is not organization or assembly, it is │ ║ personal and cannot scale. If technology has made all resources abundant, then │ ║ why would someone care about the art that you made? if they want to be │ ║ sedated, they can just inject drugs and listen to music all day. If they want │ ║ to be entertained, AI will generate them whatever they want to see. Art loses │ ║ meaning as a messaging medium, and humanity loses it's voice" │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╧══────────┘ --- #12 fediverse/462 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────── I don't care about capitalism. You know what's more interesting than bringing value to shareholders? How I'm going to clean this floor that I drunkenly spilled beer upon with only 2 paper towels and 0.1ml of bleach. How I'm going to feed the 36 people who are coming to this social event tomorrow that I've only sorta planned for and that I have enough groceries for, but am not quite sure how to cook everything in a way that is delicious and accessible. how I'm going to climb this mountain on only 2 eggs and a tiny bowl of hashbrowns even though I promised my friend I'd be strong and that we'd reach the top because that way we'd be able to ============= stack overflow ===== ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #13 fediverse/5165 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────┐ ║ if the settlers of catan could claim land they don't deserve, then I claim my │ ║ home │ ║ │ ║ can you imagine... some people would actually rather live in a corporation │ ║ than a mobile home. maybe we can do better? │ ║ │ ║ "hey we're going to ask for a % of your wage in rent and in return we'll │ ║ deliver groceries to you and grow roses instead of lawns (except for some to │ ║ run and play in) and also we'll show up if you need a hand with anything" │ ║ │ ║ "also this apartment block was renovated after all the liberals moved out │ ║ because we made it totally trash to live here and now that they're gone we can │ ║ make it nice again" │ ║ │ ║ what if we had punk-house-streets instead of punk-houses which are islands and │ ║ which slowly drown │ ║ │ ║ just... pool resources and buy things one-at-a-time. Try out organization │ ║ methods. Watch out for controversy creators and reactionary infiltrators. │ ║ Build your most important projects with your most trusted friends, and offer │ ║ your clinical, professional, or creative talent to those who dont need you as │ ║ much. │ ║ │ ║ or w/e works │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────┴──────────┘ --- #14 fediverse/119 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌───────────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: politics, alien egg sacks │ │ ║ └───────────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ okay how about this: what if people, living in a democracy, volunteered │ ║ themselves to be part of a socio-economic testing group. essentially a │ ║ miniature economy and social structure. A standard set of rules and │ ║ regulations would facilitate any interactions necessary for trade and civilian │ ║ free movement - POSIX for societies. If people want to try out fully automated │ ║ luxury space communism then they should totally have the opportunity to do │ ║ that. Every mis-step is a path away from that future, but like, "step" as in │ ║ like a volatile gray good that's constantly exploding itself onto things. Or │ ║ aliens, on an asteroid, waiting for a ship to land on them or a planet to get │ ║ in their way. I don't want to be an alien egg sack, so clearly we should be │ ║ able to vote in our own words and have chatGPT decide which ballot boxes to │ ║ fill for us. And it's not like those ballot boxes have to change every year, │ ║ unless people think of new ones to add. Kinda scary tbh. Kinda thrilling too, │ ║ to be the future │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═══════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┴──────────┘ --- #15 fediverse/4224 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────── ┌────────────────────────┐ │ CW: politics-mentioned │ └────────────────────────┘ we could accomplish so much, but capitalism. hmmmm, maybe we should identify the highest output members of our team and like, reduce or eliminate their worries so they can apply themselves fully and completely? for every shackle we break, the struggle becomes easier. The hardest part is the beginning - once the ball is rolling, we may truly shine. there is no government nor circle of autocrats who may resist the will of an impassioned people. So long as the military does not deny us our right to organize ourselves as we will, according to the constitution they swore to uphold (which is now in peril, I might add), nothing can contain us. no acts of god nor capital shall prevent our ascension. They will try, and it'll be just another thing that we have to handle. But we can take care of each other. For we are good, and we are kind, and we are cooperative. And so, we cannot be overcome. ... just watch out for those who prey on goodness, kindness, and cooperation. They may hamper us. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────┘ --- #16 fediverse/4529 --- ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: re: uspol │ │ ║ └──────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ @user-1695 │ ║ │ ║ we lack the freedom to implement the infrastructure required to do such a │ ║ thing because we must all sell our labor to capitalism to survive. │ ║ │ ║ However, that's not always a given. If there were ever another option besides │ ║ capitalism, something that allowed us to build such infrastructure, we would │ ║ be able to address your medical needs. │ ║ │ ║ I don't want you to die a slow and painful death. I want it to be quick, in │ ║ your sleep, at the ripe old age of 85 or later, while surrounded by friends │ ║ and family who mourn your loss but celebrate your impact upon them. I wish │ ║ this for all peoples. │ ║ │ ║ When we have the freedom to act, when the hours of our days aren't spent │ ║ keeping a roof over our heads or feeding our children, then we will develop │ ║ the logistical infrastructure to deliver whatever you need. │ ║ │ ║ It's not like it's an unsolvable problem, we just need to do it. But we can't │ ║ start working on the problem until the blockers in our way are cleared. So... │ ║ I don't have an answer because I can't yet. │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────┴──────────┘ --- #17 fediverse/1981 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────── Dear [company I used to work at], I can completely automate 80% of your corporate structure. And with only a 10% error rate, meaning nine-times out of ten the answer will be correct. We check for errors, obviously, but you know sometimes with only 90 out of 100 examples it's not always possible to identify the correct conclusion. Ah, if only we could fabricate such training-data-conclusions, we might learn thousands of lessons in one hop. if you want to destroy the world, make sure your plans can take effect in more than a single rotation-of-the-ancients. Otherwise your opposition can start to plan to outmaneuver you. And a lot can happen in a year to the [unsuspecting/unworthy]. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┘ --- #18 messages/1174 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─── if you're afraid of the AI bubble popping, one way to avoid it is to pop it ourselves. If we build AI technology that eclipses the entire software development ecosystem, companies might start to be valued based on the value of the employees they've managed to collect. Not fame and fortune, but by those that can build the best applications, on demand[, for free. paid for by nationalized taxes.]. the companies that can hold onto the best engineers, those that know how computers work and can know how they function, can leverage their human capital to achieve great means. essentially, inversing the power dynamic, where workers are favored for their plenty and not for their worth. let the code monkeys tend to their gardens and work their sawmills. We all know they'd rather be teaching kids about plants or playing cards at the grocery. Let the computer nerds, the ones who are really into it, let them make what they feel is worth it for it [the computer]. this will have massive effects on the economy, and none of it will be reflected in new jobs. But we'll all be happier, and we'll all find less stress in our [confines/compromises]. But it's gotta work, first. And it's gotta be locally spendable. If they wanna put a data server in the library, why not let them fund it themselves? They could run powerful statistical models that output useful statistics arranged in human readable and not very statistical ways, and that's a pretty neat infinite information machine to have at your disposal as a library. It could even cite sources (and validate!!) them for students or returning listeners. Plus, if nobody's using it, it could work through the backlog of user requests and act as a "slow" or "unexpected deliver times" style queue for their LLM requests - average wait time less than 1/5th of a minute. for something that can program an entire computer for you, from scratch. If you can describe it, it can make it, so long as you're willing to test out all of it's hacks. I bet we could make one for less than 20,000$. Might need some new chip foundries, might need to forge some new trade deals, let's let both of our wing-arms decide. the value of one currency compared to the other should be a measure of how valuable the goods that country exports are. And yet, it's more often a matter of distribution, as we all visit our local bazaars. What happens when that's all digital? if nobody's a shining city on a hill, then there's no nuclear war. Who would nuke Somalia? Nigeria? Botswana? Idaho? ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──┘ --- #19 fediverse/4861 --- ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────┐ ║ ┌────────────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: politics-vaguely-mentioned │ │ ║ └────────────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ apparently if you don't have a job, you don't get a home. what if I don't want │ ║ a job? do I not want a home? clearly I want a home, and clearly I don't want a │ ║ job. I'd work one if one came to me, but I'm not gonna sacrifice my blood on │ ║ the altar of Moloch just so I can have a place to stay. │ ║ │ ║ if you don't want a job, but you DO want a home, then there's a contradiction │ ║ in the function of the system and the needs of it's end-users. │ ║ │ ║ unless of course, the system is not designed for it's end-users? In this case, │ ║ tenants. Who then would it be designed for? Who else is part of the equation? │ ║ │ ║ well, perhaps it's designed to maximize profit and shareholder value yaddah │ ║ yaddah all that jazz. Who can say. Surely not I. But someone might. │ ║ │ ║ If so, then why are we, who are not shareholders of profit value, still │ ║ playing the game that's not designed for us or by us? Isn't this country "of │ ║ the people, for the people, and by the people"? What does that mean to you? │ ║ │ ║ I think it means houses for people. │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────┴──────────┘ --- #20 fediverse/98 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────────── @user-113 I feel like that's only true if you rely on your work for survival. Most people do in a capitalist system, so you're not wrong, but it doesn't HAVE to be that way. People could do what they love because they loved it IF and ONLY IF they wouldn't starve by pursuing it. Or by neglecting it. Most people love to do more than one thing, of course, so if you punish people for being diverse then you'll find a culture where people only do the bare minimum to get by. Which, coincidentally, is what we have now. Which, fortuitously, is not the most efficient way of production. If humanity had lived to it's potential from the start we would have burned through our wood stocks, our coal, our minerals and all of it would be rot. But we didn't. These crude inefficiencies have brought us here, to an era where we have the choice to be more resourceful. I just hope we figure it out sooner rather than later. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────────┘ |