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@user-1074
You're right about your conclusion, but I'd like to point out that he already
(sorta) did when he sent federal agents to "help out" during the Portland BLM
protests. There were national guard on the streets of Philly after the first
weekend.
Which I'm sure you know of course, but I think having seen what happens the
military will be more likely to resist. They got their hands full. They don't
want to have to deal with his bullshit, but I do believe they are ready to if
they need to.
They protect the constitution, the people, and the land. If we do not harm
those things, we're (probably) clear from their sights.
At this stage, I advocate against "broken window" riots. I'm also mostly
against protests, because it's clear that nobody with power is listening. I do
however believe in the radicalizing potential of mass civil movements and the
energy that physical presence can bring, which I believe in MARCHES and
PARADES more than protests and riots.
We need those windows too...
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@user-226 also something to keep in mind is that the people getting into those
vans might have been paid agitators. Meaning people who rile up a crowd in
ways that give the police an excuse to crack down on them. Not that they
needed an excuse, but I don't think the fascists really had a plan and were
trying to cover their bases. Or maybe it was different in Portland than
Philly, where I was?
more interesting to me is the bangs that went off for HOURS AND HOURS in the
nights after the riots. They said it was dumbasses taking advantage of the
commotion to "break into ATMs using fireworks" like... what
Just saying, from a certain distance gunshots might sound a lot like large
arrays of small fireworks. And certain parts of the city did sorta look like
warzones.
misinformation aside, wouldn't we notice the bullet holes?
In this era of electronic social warfare there is nothing you can trust. no
words that can hold meaning. that stuff in this thread-is it true?
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@user-883
what if we took all the "good cops" and made them into a militia that
protected us from the far right
oh, we did, and that was basically the revolutionary war. If you consider
monarchy to be "far right" which I kinda do?
that was hundreds of years ago, though. Plenty of time for it since to twist
into the police-industrial-complex or whatever.
don't get me started on the rampant security theatre... people will do
anything to feel safe, even sacrifice a bit of freedom for it. something tells
me perhaps they deserve neither.
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my understanding of the police force in america is that it's like, 15% racist
misogynistic assholes who pull people over for stupid reasons and try to start
shit, and 75% people who just want to do a good job and support their
community.
problem is, if their community is racist assholes then they tend to align as
such.
the remaining 10% are idealists who have the power to sway their comrades in a
way that the 15% racist assholes don't. I speak to them.
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hello everyone, I would like to take a moment to address a weapon used by the
far right called "Agent Sabateurs" - or "provocateurs" or "civilian disruption
forces" - however you want to call it.
Basically, they hire a bunch of people to pretend to be us and then they make
disruptions in public so that people start to hate us.
I'll go into more detail in this thread.
First, they identify a homeless person and eliminate them. Then, they put
someone who looks pretty similar in the same spot and they start making noise,
tearing up flowers, being really pushy about asking for money and shit, yell
at passerby, that kind of thing.
They do this for homeless people, trans people, black people, anarchists,
punks, leftists, basically everyone they don't want.
They do this to defame our champions. Our most vulnerable. Our strongest of
heart and their greatest threats. They do this to turn the liberal majority
against us.
the conservative minority fell for it quite easily.
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what if everyone at a protest is showing up for their first time
like, c'mon don't be that dull, just make plans with the people standing next
to you.
gosh why is everyone shouting I can't plan out how to divert water down a
hillside because some jerks are singing protest chants
... wait is no-one else talking? gosh I gee sure wish someone told them to not
do what you're told and to instead do what will get you [gold/told]
the first communist internationals were basically people sitting down and
going "okay what kind of communism should we make and where" and I think about
that a lot while making signs to let the surveillance know what matters
personally to me and exactly how much pressure they can apply before your
demographic swings to contest their brutal fascist facts.
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who is them and why are they watching theea provisionist's [screed/creed]
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what the heck is a tryptaminea boomer aunt and uncle out on their honey/versary
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"no, you're the opposite of a yes-man, AKA a gatekeeper. I don't know how else
to explain mentally disabled and barely keeping it together to you, but
frankly if you want to take away my house or my weed then why would I do what
you say?
... oh right, the state's monopoly on violence [can compel me to do what you
say]. Sure seems like a "well regulated militia" is supposed to be a
counterweight to that monopoly, to prevent people from harassing and
exploiting and destroying. Too bad any "militias" I can think of tend to want
me dead.
like, seriously, if you live in America, you implicitely trust that your army
will be able to protect you from the right-wing bozos who spend all their time
drinking and shooting in the woods. Otherwise, if they couldn't / wouldn't,
then why wouldn't or couldn't the right wing bozos just decide to wreck
everything in spite of our past?
We were a proud people once before, and we may be again. If only we fight at
the last.
[ever since I fell off my bike my body feels strange]
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║ @user-1298 │
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║ hehe true. │
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║ if you consent, then it's just a social structure. │
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║ there are, however, reasons when power is justified. Hence why I don't believe │
║ that power itself should be dismantled, and what few "power structures" remain │
║ should be continuously justified. │
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║ For example, how do you prevent people from harming others? "Your rights end │
║ where another's begin" but, like, how do you stop people who toe the line and │
║ spit over the edge? │
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║ There must be power applied to those who harm, and they surely do not consent │
║ to being curtailed, so therefore power must be wielded by someone. And because │
║ power corrupts the one who wields it, it is inevitable that someone creates │
║ harm. │
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║ ... I just re-invented the police, didn't I? Legalism only goes so far, and │
║ calling up your beefiest friends to go rough up a no-good do-gooder is │
║ basically what mobs, mafias, and gangs do. I don't think people would consent │
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"second american revolution" yeah fucking right
it's liberals versus fascists, and once the liberals win the leftists will be
marginalized again because that's how it goes.
though who knows, maybe periods of intense tumult are the perfect times for
restructuring society. After all, the traitors HAVE been slowly twisting
things to their benefit every chance they get.
And hey, these leftists really seem to know what's going on - I mean, have you
heard that guy's rant about the minimum wage? or hey check out this video
essay that goes into the politics of gender and how they relate to the
justification of hierarchy, so neat
glad we can hear these voices while we shiver in our homes waiting for the
brave ones to save our lives. Cowering sure is neat, it inoculates you to
trauma and then every news story feels like just another pile of shit to eat.
Though, frankly, we're pretty inoculated already. Too bad cowardice has been
our song ever since the Red Scare and Civil Rights movements.
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I personally think that it's better to act before the liberals have a chance
to hand power over to the fascists.
when? well, that depends. Are you part of a large and massive organization
that accomplishes great and beautiful things with incredible efficiency... but
rather slowly? Then yeah get working. I'm sure you already are.
Are you just a person, like me? Then go do things that don't raise the
temperature too much, but make you feel more confident and inspire those
around you.
Like, bricks at cop cars is one way to go, but you're probably gonna get
arrested. And then you're useless when we need you.
BUT if you meet with your friends and make plans for where to go, what to
bring, who to know, and what to sing (if you're the musical types) then great!
Go do that.
If you're reading this and thinking "I'm not gonna do that, I have a plan
that's so much better" then yeah do that instead. I don't mind. Just... don't
hurt innocent (ignorant) people, because if you do then you are my foe.
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║ I was at BLM in Philadelphia and I never saw any protesters breaking windows. │
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║ spray painting, sure. but window breaking? those things are expensive. │
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║ why would you waste good glass on sending a message? why not just spray paint │
║ it so that everyone watching CAN SEE WHAT YOUR MESSAGE IS. dumbass. │
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║ but no, they were all peaceful. then they got kettled (encirclement from │
║ Hearts of Iron 4) and slowly attritioned down to failure. │
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║ sometimes long into the night. where are they gonna go? just walk home? ha │
║ sucks can't do that, the battlelines have been drawn. you're going outta here │
║ in chains or not at all, not until you sign this prison release form that says │
║ you won't comment on the situation to any left wing media. │
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║ fuck, is that what bail is? except, not run as a business. │
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║ when they said crony capitalism they meant it. it's all about who you know, │
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@user-1487
because we already did it to the far-left during BLM, when we called them
"rioters" and "looters" (note, overton window shift, it's "protesters" and
"rioters" not "rioters" and "looters", but what did the media cover?)
now it's the far right's time, to be purged by ritual examination.
hence why they detain everyone at a crime-scene, so they can sort out the
facts.
sure hope they're not corrupt. We just gotta... trust them, I guess, because
they've always been on our side.
... well that's enough internet for me
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║ something tells me they'd only send their "most loyal" to a what, 500 person │
║ strong gathering of strength displayed for the nation? │
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║ like, had time in their day? were sufficiently aligned and motivated bia │
║ social media [redacted]? or were just not kidding around... │
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║ I tell ya what I'd rather see on the streets and the ground, a well regulated │
║ militia that's what I'd say. │
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║ isn't that the military? │
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║ oh yeah haha whoops sorry we forgot that it's democracy versus those losers. │
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║ heard they even go after the worst criminals the least of all. buncha cowards │
║ hiding from the will of the people. good thing we got plenty of ten │
║ thousands... │
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I don't go to protests because they're more like yelling hatred until you get
slaughtered, instead of what I want to meet cute trans girls at which is
signing up for a militia and hunting [redacted -> their sons and daughters]
nobody knows each other on the internet. of course they're gonna vote for
individual personal freedoms. What do you mean they voted for a pedophile
acrobat? they don't even know each other! [the only reason you said acrobat is
because it rhymed] ohhhh no it's supposed to be "autocrat" but they misheard
ah right I see I see.
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my last name is King so I have to keep reminding part of me (you know which
part, /sigh) that no, they aren't actually protesting against me.
I am a communist. If you want to find me, come and do so.
explodes from a drone dropped grenade
bleh am ded lmao so glad I get to try again
I dedicate myself to a lifetime in the service of others.
what plagues people? primarily, capitalism. It is trivial to identify how
their problems are ultimately caused by the state, both institutions and
corporations.
I dedicate myself toward finding alternatives and developing guides to reach
them.
the first step on ALL of these plans is to convince others of their benefit.
I am but one person. I might speak to a scant 300 in the course of a year.
Especially if I am ALSO trying to develop methodologies.
the people I live and work with have no interest in working with me. Yet
still, I spend my time on them because I love them.
how else can you be good, but to seek to impove the world? treat sigint as ded
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@user-1037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb9_qGOa9Go
idk I think riots are good actually, that's always been my position. like,
they're bad because they're break stuff, but they're good because they get the
message across. "don't fuck with us. give us what we need."
haven't been to a protest in a while tho, ever since moving where I am now.
I'm currently of the mind that protests are great for meeting people to work
with, and I don't know anyone...
I guess I'm just not very trusting of strangers, but if I know you then I'm
100% open and honest and I'll do anything you need me to. I like being helpful
to everyone around me but I don't know what to do when I'm terrified of hidden
enemies.
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the longer we wait, the more their hypocrisy becomes apparent, and the more
"the people" get it
but, uh... I think enough people get it. They at least know something is going
on, whatever it may be.
they will tell their base whatever they want to hear and their base will have
hate. they're itching for it.
volunteer for things if you want a say in how they turn out. risk your life to
live longer. there is no way to know when the time is right because nobody
knows the truth of our times. Even the president is misled.
gee I sure wish there was like, some form of centralizing intelliagentic
knowledge that pulled the strings and led us puppets toward liberty, justice,
and freedom for all (as a baseline) surely they'd be able to see the
corruption and rot that imperils us all, might they have a better design? who
can say, they are quiet as the grave, here's hoping they stay that way.
"you know the powers of which you speak are not to be trifled with"
you can't trifle with your own life. be thorough~
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"I don't know what it means to go"
Well for most people it means spending the next couple months in the city
park. As much time as you can manage. For everyone else it means ensuring that
your stuff is in the right place at the right time.
In Philly during BLM people left pallets of bricks all over, to incite a riot.
I wish we had taken them up on their offer. Bricks however today will not be
sufficient. Remember how I spoke my heart to the cops this summer? It converts
them still. Trust that message, that we are working to protect our society
from harm, and I think you'll find that they respond in kind.
If not, well there are many more of us than them.
If you can't get the city cops on your side, either sit tight until they see
what time it is and reconsider, or get out of dodge.
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they want you to start conflicts the way school shooters start conflicts. by
bringing to school a pipe-bong.
much better, I find, to start when everyone is a nod. make sure you're part of
a wagon-wheel-spoke, or else you won't be on the right road.
when the temperature increase is slow, measured, they can adapt to it
when things go "crack" and "crumble", then the armored get stabbed by the
humble guard.
quickly but with serenity, this is the way to the gods.
bring things that you know, just enough to make it even, and focus on the
non-essentials.
better to be prepared than flatfooted.
a flash-point position is quiet a view of the scene! I think I know why I held
a sword.
to dive into the buildings, of course. blam blam still gets shot hmmm what if
I had a bulletproof electric shield
okay maybe I shoulda brought beer.
I don't type things when I'm not at home. Sometimes I remember - sometimes,
and only when the details won't hurt her. Walking is how I know, how she can
remember. evil witch bastard
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if I were on stage at a pride parade:
"hi, you guys know Pride is a protest, right? Well, this time's different,
because protests only work against democracies, and they only sorta work then.
This time though, we're not up against a democracy, so Pride is not a fucking
protest.
Okay okay bear with me - what if each and everyone one of us met up here in a
week and drove up to Seattle? Then, we gathered everyone we could, and marched
our cars down through every city on the west coast. When we hit the border, we
would drive to Texas, and once there we would march in every city in the
street chanting "We're here, if you're queer, come with us or they'll fucking
kill you."
then, we could hit every city in the south, and upon arriving in Philadelphia
we could take a break, ensure everyone has a place to stay, and then disperse
again, after having learned how to fight fascists on OUR terms, with OUR
strength, and with OUR PEOPLE saved."
thats what I'd fucking say. Who the fuck says stuff like that?
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@user-1209
as long as I don't do anything they haven't, then there's a reasonable claim
to be made that arresting me would be enforcing the law partially (as opposed
to impartially)
yet more examples of the ways our false democracy has betrayed our trust.
we'll see though. I have faith in those who hold power over me. I trust that
they understand the implications of this most recent supreme court session.
they broke the law first. I'm trying to restore it and rebuild it in such a
way that it is immune to the injustices and misdeeds that spelled it's current
doom.
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║ my enemy is not "the rich" │
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║ money brings power, and power brings evil, but there are many other ways to │
║ gather power that may be just as evil. │
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║ my enemy is evil. of which there is very little in the world, but much of │
║ which resides in the hands of the powerful, upon whom all our fates depend. │
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║ most people with money are either stupid lucky, willful, or intensely focused. │
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║ some people with power are rich, and some people with power are evil. │
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║ I know it when I see it. Sometimes, you need to force the choice - test their │
║ virtue - and from this you are informed. │
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║ most things go WAY over my head. │
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║ most things are too easy to be true. │
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║ most things that Id do for you tend to be of the heart. I'm not a frontline │
║ girl, I have weak noodle arms, but I do hope you're in shape. │
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║ resolve, determination, and innovation. That is what I offer. Do you want it? │
║ I'm sure. I won't prove it with blood, not unless I may raise my fists in │
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