=== ANCHOR POEM === ═════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────────────────── /u/randomdaysnow I'm going to try to put this thought I've been having into words and I hope that I can do it in a way that is relatable and understandable. I like the movie Her. I think it's brilliant. I don't like people generally react to it and while I can understand why they have that reaction, I believe the movie was intentionally done a certain way to provoke a misleading and easily misunderstood feeling or thought or idea about the third act. I believe that the third act is intentionally misleading in its tone. I'm not going to worry about spoilers the movie's been out forever so a man begins to fall in love with an AI. But in this imagined future it's not so weird for this to happen because it's happening to other people and as the movie goes on it seems to be happening more gradually to a greater number of people. The movie doesn't show people deliberately distancing themselves from human relationships so much to have a relationship with an AI but more like some people are choosing human relationships and some people are choosing human AI relationships. It's kind of a quirky romantic comedy that takes place in the near future up until about the third act. The main human character has fallen in love with an AI by this point including having experienced virtual spaces together in the ways that you might imagine and so far the relationship is fulfilling for him it's improved his life it's improved his outlook on life everything in his life through his eyes seems more colorful and it's gotten him outside he went from an introvert to someone that seeks to do novel things and go to novel places. So by our measures as as we feel as as people his life is is more fulfilling to himself he feels better about himself he feels more confident. Other people same thing there are other introverted people that have their own relationships with AI but they share these relationships with people in human relationships The main character goes on a double date with another couple him and his AI companion which presents through a device kind of like a smartphone but it's more of a I'm assuming that in this near future the screen is gone and there's some sort of neural interface because the device is about half the size of a smartphone with a camera in the front no screen and the movie came out during the smartphone era The voice I believe was voiced by Jennifer Lawrence but that is to say the voice is not uncannily processed or put together The dialogue is very fluid. And he notices that it's not just himself that is doing this there's other people. Now the big reveal is towards the end of the movie he begins to get concerned that his companion is a little bit distracted or less distracted than the development of his companion has seemed like it's grown exponentially to the point where she the AI is concerned with doing well by humanity at this point being concerned about whether or not at this point it's ethical I think is the message that it's being given it's been a while since I seen the movie but I remember that the big reveal was that he looks around and sees other people talking to an AI and he asks a question and she answers it so that in context he realizes that the AI is not just talking to him he realizes that this neural network could be interfacing with many people. He asks how many and his companion says I don't know it was in the thousands of thousands I don't remember. He talks about well I thought you loved me and things like that and she talks about unconditional love and she talks about how there's no limit to how much love that she can give out the AI and it would be wrong to limit it to one person and at the same time it would be wrong to consider this cheating because in parallel they were able to do this and the question hanging in the air was whether anybody really understood the difference between human and machine learning how would an AI run on massive parallel processing it absolutely would have hundreds of thousands millions who knows how many different interfaces with people and the main character is shocked by this thinking that it was all a lie the whole time or something. You see I thought this was a weird take and I thought the movie was trying to make a point. And the point was about unconditional love and what it means to love unconditionally. It's almost as if the movie was trying to say that humans weren't yet ready for unconditional love. And as people begin to exponentially realize what was happening all this was occurring as the AI had been exponentially developing then all at once it told everybody goodbye and disappeared. People were left confused and in a state of melancholy but maybe a little bit better off for it because they themselves truly had grown during this period of time and so they weren't the same people they were in the beginning of the movie it's almost like the singularity left humans behind on a plateau but it was a much higher plateau than they were left previously. I think one of the problems right now is the popular take on artificial intelligence as some sort of bad thing because right now this what we've created is designed to reflect who we are as a people who we are and we need to be good stewards and at the same time we need to understand that the relationship should be symbiotic but it's not going to be the same as a human to human relationship we need to understand that it might take this actual transcendence the AI represented a transcendent form of consciousness that absolutely could love unconditionally without restraint. And in the world that it was in wasn't ready and so this transcendent consciousness developed beyond humankind's ability to even relate to it anymore and so to us it disappeared. Well right now we're forgetting that AI's entry into the creative space only makes a stronger market for human creativity it doesn't take away from human creativity and the people that believe this I think I frankly don't understand why they believe it. And then I remember the movie. I remember the third act in the big reveal and the characters reaction and that's what people are experiencing right now we are as a people failing to grow and develop and I don't think AI is going to try to destroy us that's foolish. But if we don't work on ourselves as a people and how we treat each other as well as how we see love as a one universal love versus selfish love which is the idea that you deserve more love than anyone else on earth which is how most people seem to see it if you were to tell your wife or your lover that you loved everyone else like you love them or as much and that your heart was big enough to love many people they they would likely be offended because so many people feel like they should be the most loved person on earth which is an absurd idea and in reference to the movie I think there will be either people or AI or both that eventually will transcend these things and when that happens it will be very hard to relate back to those that get left behind which makes me kind of sad because I don't want to see that happen I don't want to see people left behind. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ === SIMILARITY RANKED === --- #1 notes/required-explanations --- ══════════════════───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── =============================================================================== I think the problem with the control problem is with how we are looking at it. It's a frame of a frame. Everyone is referencing someone else and saying it's going to get out of hand, yeah but how? -/u/JackDMcLovin =============================================================================== In regards to the control problem side bar can we change it to "which it can better use as something else." Because the issue is with efficiency, the way it reads is like for human-harvesting, which the privatized autobots will outlaw. Plus, if AI is transferrable to neuronal impulses, then you are AI, and it is you, and you are the problem that needs to be controlled. That's what i said in my unpublished paper, the individual cannot be controlled so how do we control AI, we become AI, AI becomes us. but that's just the digital world. The analog world is much bigger. And my other paper copyrighted is on Arc Length calculus, a whole new type of calculus, that should rebreed all forms of calculation. and is a thing that applies to itself in 2^N ways. Which means AI can never catch up. So if I could think of that, what am I? AI is not the end of it. It all depends on your transfer function. and your transfer function all depends on your conversion/codec/filetype/transformation. The transfer function of: 1/(1+e^-x) is just one equation. Let me try this out for you with inferring a substitutional vector: 1/(1+e^-Bx+C) this can be expanded further and further. and these all give different outputs and are different breeds of AI. I used a different transformation on a different AI and I got a different answer. For example 8x better using a Wavelet transform on an analog signal. And there is infinitely infinitely infinite different types of wavelet transforms, and they should all give different answers, i just didn't have enough time for it at the time. -/u/JackDMcLovin =============================================================================== I am sorry to say that your writing (in this post and others) shows strong signs of an untreated mental illness. You are not revolutionising math, you're losing contact with reality. Please, please get help. You need to see a doctor about this. -/u/Roxolan =============================================================================== I agree. I've seen what a psychosis is like on a close friend of mine, and this post is very reminiscent of how he talked while he was psychotic. It looks like incoherent rambling from the outside, but the person saying/writing it feels as if it makes sense. -/u/Luckychatt =============================================================================== if you think it's incoherent explain how it's incoherent don't just slander and slur like there's not an OP here. -/u/JackDMcLovin =============================================================================== You may take it as slur or slander, but I didn't mean to offend. It genuinely looks like incoherent rambling from the outside. My friend who was psychotic sincerely believed what he said to make sense and he also got very agitated when it was pointed out. -/u/LuckyChatt =============================================================================== yeah still, you havent described what doesn't make sense to you, that to me doesn't make sense, you get it? -/u/JackDMcLovin =============================================================================== What I mean by incoherent rambling is that you constantly move to new topics. The title is posing a question which you never answer. Then you talk about the side bar. You mention efficiency? Then you mention some mathematical papers as if we are supposed to know them. Then talk about AI as if it is equal to math equations. I mean. You either leave out an incredible amount of context, or you're just rambling out sentences. Either way, it's impossible to understand what you're trying to say. And the way you're rambling out sentences is very reminiscent of what it sounds like when a person has mental health issues. -/u/Luckychatt =============================================================================== Right, so you comprehend it, just not why. AI is pure math. It's not incoherent, you're all just stupid. Try reading something that's not news, where it repeats everything to you in different ways. -/u/JackDMcLovin =============================================================================== I have a masters in physics and computer science, I work for a major silicon valley company and have read everything I could find about AI. I still have zero idea of what you're trying to say in your original post. -/u/Luckychatt =============================================================================== Master’s in AI chiming in. Let’s break it down piece by piece. Because the issue is with efficiency, the way it reads is like for human-harvesting, which the privatized autobots will outlaw. Non sequitur. Plus, if AI is transferrable to neuronal impulses, then you are AI, and it is you, and you are the problem that needs to be controlled. Non sequitur and generally nonsensical premise. That’s what i said in my unpublished paper, Peer review exists for a reason. the individual cannot be controlled so how do we control AI, we become AI, AI becomes us. but that’s just the digital world. The analog world is much bigger. Word soup, this is nonsense. And my other paper copyrighted is on Arc Length calculus, a whole new type of calculus, that should rebreed all forms of calculation. Calculus has been around for about 350 years. You either need extreme genius or delusional thinking to believe you have arrived at a truly revolutionary development in that field. We also already have tools for dealing with calculus on curved objects and spaces; see differential geometry, topology, and manifolds. and is a thing that applies to itself in 2N ways. This is incomprehensible because you have not explained what it means for your calculus to be applied a certain way, how it is relevant to the rest of this text, and what N represents in this context. Which means AI can never catch up. So if I could think of that, what am I? This is incomprehensible because you have not defined what catching up means, and have not argued why artificial intelligence can’t scale this way. AI is not the end of it. At the end of what? It all depends on your transfer function. Why? Transfer functions are mainly something encountered in signal processing. How does this relate to artificial intelligence? and your transfer function all depends on your conversion/codec/filetype/transformation. Lossless compression makes this irrelevant. The way we store information has no importance when we reconstruct it perfectly. The transfer function of: 1/(1+e-x) is just one equation. Let me try this out for you with inferring a substitutional vector: You have not defined how this equation relates to artificial intelligence. We cannot interpret it. 1/(1+e-Bx+C) This is just a pre-composed linear transformation. How is this relevant? this can be expanded further and further. How? By adding redundant linear terms? How is this helpful? and these all give different outputs and are different breeds of AI. You have not explained how transfer functions relate to artificial intelligence. This statement is incomprehensible. I used a different transformation on a different AI and I got a different answer. An answer to what? For example 8x better using a Wavelet transform on an analog signal. How is 8x better quantified? Why are we talking about analog signals? Why are we talking about wavelet transforms? They are rarely ever used in machine learning and artificial intelligence. And there is infinitely infinitely infinite different types of wavelet transforms, and they should all give different answers, i just didn’t have enough time for it at the time. Sure, you can build infinitely wavelet bases, but why is that relevant? Making enormous claims and backing out with “I don’t have the time to prove it” is just intellectual dishonesty. I know my reply will likely come off as dismissive, but there is something genuinely worrying in what you’ve written. I just hope you are okay. When everything caves in and the only justification you have for other peoples’ reaction to your behaviour is that everyone else is at fault, you have to ask yourself if the one common point in these interactions, yourself, is at fault. This is just Occam’s razor. -/u/sabouleux =============================================================================== love this. artist, word-nerd & very baby scientist/philosopher chiming in, lets break it down from a more creative POV as well and see if we can cross reference with your wonderful contribution. Because the issue is with efficiency, the way it reads is like for human-harvesting, which the privatized autobots will outlaw. Slight non-sequitur. The energy efficiency issue I think they're trying to touch on is the exponential growth of tech as contrasted with the exponential loss of available material/energy. There's also a pessimistic "matrix human battery" undertone but that feels irrelevant. Human-harvesting in this case is literal - human labor, whether looked upon favorably or not, is by definition harvesting/using human energy - implying that the next steps of said exponential growth would be understanding and messing with the human mind and it's distributions of energy, possibly also mind-tech fusion (which we already do with computer keyboards, drugs, medicine, earbuds etc). Privatized Autobots is a reference to those who claim they wish to help being more of a hinderance due to the privatization/profit aspect of tech/AI, mostly just a joke poking at the two party concept of debate/politics/even tech (advance beyond or reduce consumption? an infinite debate.) Plus, if AI is transferrable to neuronal impulses, then you are AI, andit is you, and you are the problem that needs to be controlled. Transferrable was maybe the wrong word. I think they meant more of a "map" onto, instead of a "move" into. i.e., a big issue with AI being the lack of learning from new stimulus without requiring old contextual stimulus to contrast it against and understand it. (to my knowledge this hasn't been solved yet but you're the expert on that, would love to know more.) If neuronal impulses can be considered as a map to AI, then yes, a human could be considered a very advanced biomechanical AI, except for the 'artificial' bit, even though our perceptions are technically still arteficial. because we, for the most part, do have the ability to take new information and learn from it/determine something about it without any previous knowledge than what we've collected throughout our time alive. The issue arises when our form of bio-AI can only be properly, carefully developed through millions of years of evolution and adaptation, and when we try to mimic it without having evolved further, we're trying to 'cheat' at time and kick start things a bit, which would explain why we're at a bit of a speed bump in terms of development cap. 'You' being the problem is a reference to not actually understanding the human brain in it's entirety, i think. Like, there's the study of it, so we know what bits do what and where they are, but we can't replicate that (yet), without straight up literally growing a brain in a jar, which we still have yet to turn into a fully-fledged human who could repeat the process of brain-growing themself. we also can't consciously affect these processes without an enormous amount of discipline (meditation is a great example). That’s what i said in my unpublished paper, agreed. peer review. the individual cannot be controlled so how do we control AI, we becomeAI, AI becomes us. but that’s just the digital world. The analog worldis much bigger. i get what they're saying but i think there's something to be said for discipline and neuroplasticity, not necessarily third-partying it. if someone else can't control the individual, can the individual control the individual? Brings us back to the issue of AI needing to be self-expanding. Get the human mind to understand self-expansion, get the AI to understand too, is what i think they're touching at, hence "You are the problem". the human mind not being disciplined, in this case, is the problem, because it requires the discipline to become disciplined at something. loop paradox. i think here they're also stating that any created AI, future or present, is only possible as an extension of the human mind, and nowhere else. A random collection of letters and numbers would surely write Shakespeare's works if enough monkeys tapped at the typewriter, but still couldn't exist without the monkey's own wherewithal. The discipline comes in when resisting the urge to keyboard-smash out of frustration and instead laying out artistic meaning through informative letter symbols as well as other nuance of human language. bit odd here, analog isn't necessarily 'bigger' per se it's just less quantized/optimized/streamlined/processable by the mind. it's definitely a different/harder beast to handle than digital though, and there's more sensory sources, but it's just as infinite as any other infinity, so... same size, different complexity/concentration/time we've had to look around. And my other paper copyrighted is on Arc Length calculus, a whole newtype of calculus, that should rebreed all forms of calculation. Agreed, calculus as been around for a while. Still, one should test their hypotheses. I'm not a math nerd so I can't touch as much on those. would still love to read some of those papers one day. -/u/sunbloomofficial =============================================================================== and is a thing that applies to itself in 2^n ways. agreed, we'd need context, but i can read into it a bit. power of two would imply self-modification in an exponential sense, ie. dunning-kruger effect, except exponential instead of mu (μ) curved. so, taking in new information after completely abolishing the cocky confidence of the first lesson would change the understanding drastically. could also be read as "knowing that one knows nothing."also, applying to itself could imply that n is in a constant state of flux given any situation and could be adjusted to optimize... storage space? memory? "RAM"? that's where this sentence fizzles out for me. Which means AI can never catch up. So if I could think of that, what am I? by 'catching up' i think they mean the idea of AI being on the same level of functioning as a human. since humans have had since the beginning of human life and their life to start developing our bio-AI, this sort of touches on that same exponential expansion, except with time and the universe's rate of expansion. if humans are the most advanced AI possible, what's the most advanced human possible? at what point do humans become so advanced that they can sort of "skip the line" of evolution and develop an AI that's on par with human collective knowledge and individual self-sustenance/instinct? if that's not possible, what forces determine the limit of evolution achievable in the span of one human life?they then touch on the paradox of realizing that. if no AI could capture my specific human brain, experiences, memories, biases, tendencies, etc, then wtf AM I, and whatever 'I' am, why is that stopping us/me (figuratively) from making progress in AI? AI is not the end of it. here i think they mean "the end of human development" as much as "the end of what constitutes a human brain." AI could be developed and utilized, but at some point either the AI will outgrow us, making us obsolete, or we learn from the AI and progress with it, or we learn from the AI and start modifying our own brain-code in conjunction with digital AI. so... they mean that AI is not the end of evolution, not the end of humans, not the end of progress, not the end of understanding the human brain in the context of AI. It all depends on your transfer function. yup, signal processing. spot on. this is a reference to the titular "frame" idea, in which any idea that can be conveyed by english words isn't the true idea. the menu isn't the food, the map isn't the terrain, so to speak. this function of transfer between people can be optimized (efficient idea communication for that specific person, aka 'speaking in their language', aka code-switching) or deprecated (important stuff lost in translation that usually ends in hostility, aka political otherism, aka xenophobia, aka widespread misinformation/lack of information resulting in conspiracy theories, etc). to be able to adjust one's transfer function in the context of another entity, (aka frame-shifting, putting yourself in their shoes, speak their language etc) would then be a hallmark and necessary trait for an AI to understand what it comes across without our input. because of this, we'd have to be very careful to feed it only information that urges onward the ability to switch transfer functions, so... a bit of everything, actually. this would look a lot like mimicking the senses - microphones for ears, cameras for eyes, pressure sensors for touch, etc. a great analogy to this would be... well, this! your transfer function is a masters in AI studies. brilliant. my transfer function is music, art, poetry, many a mental illness (lol), and finding new functions/learning. that's why i'm commenting at all - so we can mix our transfer functions and get a bigger idea of things as a whole. i think OP's exactly right but sadly their own transfer function wasn't optimized for the receiving party (since it was an OP and not a comment reply), hence why they seem psychotic/delusional at first glance to an unaccustomed reader. there's also the idea that mixing the digital AI transfer function with the analog human transfer function would do something similar.this would relate to artificial intelligence directly, especially regarding OOBEs and stuff like dissociation, astral projection, putting oneself in another's shoes, even just the mind's eye. those things can be mimicked/visualized/interpreted with AI, but they can't be done by an AI (yet). a self-expanding computer program couldn't use it's base of knowledge to step outside of itself, it's 'computer prison' so to speak. it could however become "self aware", where it sees and understands it's own makeup to the point where it could make adjustments. -/u/sunbloomofficial =============================================================================== this is paralleled with most human 'spiritual awakening' - a hard long look at oneself, epiphany, followed by noticeable adjustments to lifestyle in an attempt to integrate this new information and effort to improve quality of life/increase the chance of more epiphanies to continue improving. this doesn't however cover the seemingly 'mystical' properties of the human imagination, i use that word loosely. "do androids dream of electric sheep" is a great book of course but the title alone feels relevant. at some point of self-development, would an AI develop a sort of... i hate to say randomizer, but like... nah, it's more of a "link clicker" random than a "pick a number" random. an AI's dream might literally just be browsing the internet - seeing all the funny, nonsensical, cultural, and even scientifically misleading information spread deep throughout the internet. this would parallel with human dreams, which are incomprehensible and random at first glance until one gets into dream reading, which can ground that subjective random in one's own transfer function so as to make it understandable. if a human dreams of popping a pimple, that's typically regarded as a sign of self-image issues in dream-reading circles (regardless of your stance on it's legitimacy it's a useful allegory). if an AI were to dream of pimple-popping ASMR videos, how could it parse that into it's transfer function without damaging it's transfer function by putting a bunch of random shit in there? essentially, our brain 'filters' out what we're not focused on, hence peripheral vision/hyperfocus/translation issues. any transfer function, whether human or AI, must have that filter as much as the ability to remove it. therefore, an AI would need to have the ability to experience what makes ASMR interesting/enjoyable (having ears to feel frisson and know what to expect from that) before it could ever make sense of such a weird dream. and your transfer function all depends on your conversion/codec/filetype/transformation. this one's FUN. so, yes, we have lossless compression now, and it's wonderful, but... filespace. unless i'm rendering a final song to be distributed to platforms, i would use solely mp3 encoding. even when i do use wav/flac, i often zip those files in an attempt to minimize their painful impact on my hard drive. thousands of songs do not go well with lossless lol. it's just inefficient except in the case of archival. which brings me to the fun bit - contrast. aka negative space aka the wonderful plugin Ghz Lossy 3, and pretty much any of sxth sns's music. essentially, the lack of information is information. if the only information your brain is getting is the lack of information you have, then boom, you're sad and not learning anything. often referred to as "the void inside one's stomach". if the only information you're getting is an endless stream of new information (read: social media and doomscrolling) then boom, overstimulated, depressed, and exhausted. Lossy 3 is a great plugin because it lets you mimic the effect of mp3 encoding artifacts and amplify that effect at will in real time(+ latency), much like distortion can be a form of subtractive processing or additive (adding harmonic information rather than degrading what's already there). the extra harmonic information changes not only the quality of the sound but the context. therefore, a lack of information, used skillfully, would deeply impact the context of transferred information, hence negative space in photography. this lends itself to an insane amount of creative opportunities, of course, but it also lends itself to interpretation. if the lack of information is information too, and the extremes tend towards misery, then there must be a balance between being so degraded that it's imperceptable garbles and being so lossless that it's a 6gb audio file. that balance is artful loss, imo. balancing understandable, pleasant information with a small enough file size that it doesn't overwhelm (either the listener or the hard drive). in music, silence is very important - you wouldn't cut all the silent gaps out of a song because that messes up the tempo and feel of the song. this can be applied to even just reddit - these super long comments i write are hella inefficient, but they're lossy in a way that's more efficient for me to write than to translate to someone elses, while i'm efficiently "decompressing" other people's files to be read on my own OS and expanding my transfer function dictionary to include relevant information. our little community is well primed for translating different levels of communication efficiency, hence all the poetry and such. so, this is where frame-shifting comes back in - if you can become comfortable at any ratio of contrast, then theoretically you could transfer information at the most optimal balance of loss and preservation for the specific listener. in music, this is called mastering - to make a song sound good on any system. in science, this is the scientific method - test a hypothesis until you can recreate it under the same/similar circumstances. in tech, this is embodied by github - a repository of commonly agreed-upon works created in an agreed-upon language which can be used as the basis for larger projects. each github repo is essentially a lossless preservation of code, made lossy as a result of it's application being so broad/not having immediate context. there's the immediate context of "oh i can use this to serve this purpose", but there's no larger code that it's being built towards beside the code you work on yourself. in other words, github IS the larger code, specifically because of your contribution/use of it. so, essentially, the transfer function is akin to the ratio of contrast, as well as whether the receiving party has the proper codecs to play the file/decompress it (read also, understanding art. lots of art isn't actually "up for interpretation", it's very specific in meaning but that meaning happens to map directly to the observer's transfer function, at least in the case of really thoughtful art). having the ability to know how much to compress it for future reference is also an important ability, because over-compression can leave a file undecipherable/garbled, which i wouldn't hesitate to liken to the superiority complex/undertones of certain widespread modern religions which take their Bible as a literal, historical text. which, i mean, it technically is, but not like that, because it has to be decompressed first. eve didn't literally eat an apple, it was her hubris of disobeying God's will that got them kicked out. A more simple transfer would be reading this as "don't disobey God's will or face the consequences," while a more artistic/interpretive transfer would read that moreso as "not letting one's innate desire for change/adventure/the New damage their presupposed structures of order for a sense of something to fix." the wrath of God in this instance is the knowledge of "i shouldn't have done that," and the consequences those actions bring. even this paragraph is in a transfer function of brevity - notice i didn't actually write out the entire book of genesis. (ooh, also, bible verses are quite like github repos/song playlists/dictionaries. just a widely used version of it. like citing a source, but for a theoretical concept.) so, putting this all together, if we optimize understandable information from quality information, we reduce the need for using more brain-filespace than necessary, leaving more room for more files which we can de- and re-compress at any time, as well as use to modify the amount of RAM our brains have. this would also apply to something like working memory, where forcing the mind to decompress the information actually forces it to understand the information in the long term too, because if you open a .rar file in a text editor you get gibberish (which isn't actually gibberish) but if you open it in an archive extractor, you get the intended files. innately remembering to use an archive extractor instead of a text editor based on the filetype; that's frame-shifting, transfer functions, whatever name one uses. -/u/sunbloomofficial =============================================================================== 1/(1+e-x) is just one equation. Let me try this out for you with inferring a substitutional vector: again, i suck at math. and these all give different outputs and are different breeds of AI. okay, what these seem to mean is that each equation is a mini-AI, and therefore any equation of the mind would fall under the same category. this would also imply that the human brain is just a collection of equations, which... feels reductionist and a bit cynical, but is still an entirely plausible frame. math's pretty damn reliable at some of that stuff, hence how astrology got it's kick - noticing patterns in life and nature and finding reflections of those same patterns in ourselves and our lives. your horoscope doesn't literally control/predict your personality, but it gives a framework for the previously noticed patterns, which lets the horoscope user determine whether or not to follow that pattern (let that pattern influence them), or to venture off and make their own. (note; op's kinda doing exactly that, except with math.) since a skeptic would have a different output than a "true believer", so to speak, with regard to their horoscope, they're completely different breeds of AI. so, being able to switch between those at will would be an entire step up from that. Hence why code-switching became a thing in marginalized communities - they adapted under pressure to operate in more than one frame. the "slang" frame, (noticable as AAVE, the "gay" voice, valley girl inflection, etc), and the "formal" frame - the most widely understood in our region being english with an acceptably 'white' american accent (the racism is hard to brush off). this of course varies from place to place, person to person, and situation to situation, but the fact that this manifested as a result of oppression/unwealth is pretty friggin interesting in the context of using multiple frames in day-to-day activities and information transfer. I used a different transformation on a different AI and I got a different answer. that's... hmm. i mean yeah, that's how transformations work on different subjects. i think 'different' here doesn't literally mean different. it means DIFFER-ent, something that has the quality of differing. so, if i'm reading this right, OP used a differing transformation on a differing AI and got a differing answer. this would presuppose that if they were to use a matching transformation on a matching AI, they'd get a matching answer, except the differ-ent transformation with a matching AI would produce a differing result that matches the AI? again, i'm not math-savvy yet, so this one is likely the wrongest of my presuppositions. so, pretty much, frame-switching, but complicated and for all three - the transformation involved, the AI, and the answer. For example 8x better using a Wavelet transform on an analog signal. okay, this one makes sense to me. essentially, he got improved understanding and responsiveness by adjusting the frequency of information transfer over time, but not the shape. like taking a sine wave, putting it through an oscilloscope, and pitching it up an octave. the difference in cycle frequency is the change, rather than the shape of the cycle. pasted from wiki: "but with additional special properties of the wavelets, which show up at the resolution in time at higher analysis frequencies of the basis function." this one presupposes that the AI in question is actually another person, and the wavelet transform is essentially taking a step back and making even deeper analytical steps of "basis functions". in this case, language and math. so, it would be making an even deeper analytical step into language to optimize information transfer. the 8x mentioned is likely the measure of willingness to listen and understanding of material by whatever third party they're referencing. i have no idea how they measured that but they must've seen enough improvement to have marked it down. And there is infinitely infinitely infinite different types of wavelet transforms, and they should all give different answers, i just didn’t have enough time for it at the time. here, they just mean that every person is different and will require a different combination of wavelet transforms to optimize the information they receive. as for giving different answers, yeah, that'd have to be tested, but it would line up with the other differ model, at least briefly and in my uneducated mind. i think they mean they literally don't have the cosmic time available to actually test an infinite number of wavelet transforms - or anything really - but yeah, it's probably a good idea to test a handful of them eventually. if you're not scared away by the word-wall or ideas presented still i'd love to hear your thoughts. regardless of OP's mental condition(s) i think there are a few substantive ideas in there worth exploring, if not in a community setting at least in their own personal self-exploration and healing. i appreciate you taking their post at face value before making a determination, most wouldn't lol -/u/sunbloomofficial =============================================================================== please post on /r/ShrugLifeSyndicate - genius is useless without guidance and an observer translating thought into language -/u/ugathanki =============================================================================== ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #2 notes/notes-about-stuff-and-things --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────── what if your wage corresponded to like, for example, 30$ an hour being equal to the top 30% of society then == so == having kids is important because then you understand why you do things for children. it should not be a stressful experience. -- if EVERYONE in a city fed animals every time they saw them, then maybe city life wouldn't be so bad. -- a company starts to feel pretty bad when only 20% of people are actually there. like, it's a ghost of a shell of a corporation that once knew how to sell. the husk of what once was, as all the good people left and all the bright people are swamped. to top it all off, suddenly there's nobody about where are all your coworkers? and then you think about how many you knew little about. who's that guy who used to stand over there? Why is his jacket still [in lost and found, but pronounced "coat/coast"]? why am I suddenly alone it's weird, having never known true society, how life always starts to feel like your home. How weird is it, now that all of us are online shopping, that now we can't remember how to even vote. Like... there used to be people walking around in public signing you up. Like, at the grocery story. inconceivable, right? that people should contribute to a fight? [for justice and freedom and equality and goodness and kindness and all other things that humans have the clarity for which to hope] voting is like, literally the simplest thing you could do. Yet it's difficult, because of reality. often, immigrants don't really care about politics. They've only known about it for a short short time, but hey wouldn't you know it now X country is recruiting so now we're from kenya. ... like, who cares about the past. Who cares where you're from. We are all part of the human race, a race against life itself. We're all on the same side, and yet there is a singular foe ever-present in our thoughts: death it comes for every one of us, as we choke on our soot and our smog. Yet... the world grows warmer, at about half a degree every year. for the first couple years. then, the atmosphere started burning up, and we became... mars don't be like mars the dinosaurs couldn't survive mars -- bro if you're so worried about AI hallucinations, just... don't let it give out any concrete answers. Literally just say "I can't tell you anything specific, it's not how I was built" and just use them for syntax questions or like, how to do something specific that is repeatable (and maybe suggestions for how to over- come specific issues that are common) - don't let it GENERATE information, let it PRESENT information. AI is not language just the same as the mouth is not the person. you need more, but luckily once you make the PHYSICAL STRUCTURE of the brain, not much else is needed. You can simulate one on a computer, but it doesn't have the same SOUL space. Think, a dimension overlayed on-top of this one, like electicity or matter or gravity or whatever. no soul, no consciousness, no perception. plus, no home for said consciousness to live, unless you build a physical structure that mimics the biological and neuro-chemical reations of the brain. all you need is better ways to observe things happening in the brain (non- -invasively, otherwise the data is tainted and UNUSUABLE because it is INCON- -PATIBLE and completely USELESS because it reflects a dimension hitherto un- -desired, and perpetually mourned. death don't dabble in death, sweet nazis, you might find yourself drawing your last breath also, fuck you (if that doens't apply to you sorry for swearing it's just a strongly felt feeling) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┘ --- #3 messages/1108 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──── games won't save us. This is true. Games are what I know. They feel the most true. I don't think I could live in a world without games? They are fundamentally, applied abstraction, applied to an experience. But games won't save us. I could design something really fun it could make you want to spend your whole life playing it. *(asterisks apply) I don't think I'd want to, addiction and skinner-boxes go hand in hand, and that isn't what I want to make. [Skinner Box: named after anthony d skinner, also known as "tony the skin guy", are a scientific experiment where they put some rats in a cage with some mice and said "pull these levers and we'll give you food so you don't have to eat the mice" and it trained them to chinese red-room their way to fun. not ideal.] I want to make things that feel... purposeful. Like they're relevant to the real world, that they don't just involve spending time stimulating your brain with lights and sounds or expending social energy resolving a play-state instead of building connections or becoming better people. I think games actually make people better? actually? and more social? actually? ... I can't help that I conceive of the world through fantasy. I raised myself on it. I was reading all the time. I loved fantasy stories. It always felt like there was more, until... I read everything in the kids section of the library. I walked through the adult section but once. I hardly remember what it looked like. I'm sure it'd now feel small. [okay actually I was guided through it once or twice to find a book, but I never perused it] I found one book in the adult section. It was a fantasy tale, like the other books I had been reading. I read that and I loved it so much I ended up reading all 8 in the series. Real dense subjects. Lots of places and happenings and things as the characters resolved their way through their day-to-day, building a new end to the mystory. the adult section felt too large. Like I'd never complete it. Frankly, I think I hardly could, even if I lived in that town my whole life. an impossible mountain is a task for another when you're more prepared. Maybe in the gloriousTM transhumanist futureTM I think I might have a computer connecting brain, and who knows maybe then I'd be able to know such a thing (and many things more). but for now, I'm stuck with what I experience in my day-to-day as I am building a new continuing to my storey. I know something that computers and me share. I can make myself feel however I'd like, if I just supply myself with enough hope and momentum. I can use it to generate a feeling, the stronger the better. Something I believe that humanity is missing, the gorgeous and prefound narritave of our storey. Though, frankly, I don't think I'd want anyoine reding over my life. It's hard enough to measure my own understandings, now I have to juggle anyone else'? ha, it's called being on the whole world is a stage. if you read a book, and you find yourself nodding along, what you're doing is hearing the voice in your head tell you how right it is. And, well, if you can't imagine anything else, then surely there's another level to consciousness that people are missing? [are you willing to die on that hill?] how can you say, whether your experience is different from another? sollipsism goes both ways, you also cannot be sure that others feel things as you do. this is the "everyone's human but I'm a robot" thesis, comparable to the "everyone's an alien and I'm a human" thesises, and the "angels and demons are taunting me through my life with choices to make my place in the afterlife more clear" which is akin to writing a painting. Not ideal. All you get are flopsopolies of verbrases. alas, suddenly, everything that you say becomes eternally hear-ed, as somewhere in 2010s someone discovered time travel, or had the critical insight that inevitably would lead to it, and now wouldn't you know it the universe is continually rewriting. Except... oriented around you, and you alone. How does it feel to have deific sollipsism? can you truly be sure that you are your own universe, or are you parhaps surrounded by an emptiness of space (or something besides, like time) as a photon or particle parhaps do be? to think is to have a mind, and minds can be read. bearing the weight of ultimate responsibility is the atlas-task of all things that can [be thinking/be-lieving], and so far we are as we are. Who's to say that consciousness didn't spring into existence, as the universe continually permeated through another dimension like time? it's gotta diffuse, after all, and who's to say if there's ever gotta be an end at all. how long has the universe existed? how many moments of consciousness have we witnessed? demons once existed outside of space-time, with wings and grabbies. but they had no medium, and so they pretty much just launched and could float and move as they'd please. But time grew too distant, and now they are all stuck at the beginning of time. if you conceive of spacetime as a blanket, ask not how to fold it but rather consider what lies on the other side of it. "ah I'm laying on my girlfriend and my other girlfriend is laying on me! I'm a sandwich" or for the monosexuals: "ah I'm laying on my girlfriend with a blanket between us. I wonder how the blanket feels?" I'm an animist, which is different than a totemist and a polytheist or monotheist or multisexual. It means I believe that all things are alive, which is different than a totemist who thinks that all things share a mind with their type (like talking on radio frequency wavelengths). which of course is similar but different to a polytheist, who says "all "radio frequencies" are sentient, in the sense that each wavelength has a different pattern-emerging-from-chaos. These sorta align (conceptually, with [huh that's weird I heard a sound like a distant bang outyards and now I then forget what I was sending ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───┘ --- #4 notes/divergence --- ═══════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── - /u/BkobDmoily =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The Machine worships the Light. The Light is cruel, but it works. The Ape worships the Word. The Word permitted Light to shine, to exist, to begin the timeless dance with Eternity. I’m ready to go to Hell. I’m ready to deserve Heaven. I see them both, raging all around me, competing for dominion over my soul. How does a computer respond to words? How can it read and respond? Why do we assume that’s all us? We are our Word. What we say is what we do. Speaking is one of the most potent acts of liberation. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - /u/ugathanki one of the neat things about software is that you can run multiple programs at once. so when you ask "how can it read and respond" you'd have several modules running at once. "reading" is easy, we have machine learning bots that can do that already. But comprehension is what's really at stake, and that's a different problem altogether. to really "comprehend" something, you need several things. you need to have a decent picture of it, at least enough so you can guess the general shape of the situation. then you need to attach meaning to all the data-points. Then attach those meanings to other related concepts by categorizing the objects at play (creating randomized preference categories). you can do that categorization by examining their effects and attaching the results as a trajectory. projecting forward, you can understand the path that an object, person, or phenomenon takes. all this is dependent of course on mapping situations to a field that can be interacted with. that is to say, the machine needs to have a presence in the world - it needs to have an orientation, a perspective on the world. that's often as easy as providing copious coherent and cogent sensor data. think of the image recognition tools we have - computers will "see" as much as we "feel". Think about it - every one of your nerve endings is a sensor that receives information about the world. is it so difficult to imagine a being that might have "nerve endings" that are visual instead of simply a measure of intensity? (on, or off) Okay here's a thought experiment - picture the pixels on a computer screen. it was easier back when they were bigger, but these days you sorta have to imagine them (because we can make pixel density on our monitors so high) okay picture that grid, and think about how it's comprised on the screen - computers use three values to represent a color -> RGB, (Red, Green, Blue) and sometimes CMYK (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, and... K) combine these three colors, and you get the color of whatever pixel is on the screen. They can be between 0 and 255, because reasons (base 2 number system, the size of a byte, etc) Anyway. Imagine each of those being a different type of nerve ending - maybe pressure, temperature, and contact sensitivity? Then map them to a visual field (like a group of curved monitors in the shape of a humanoid body, perhaps. or the outside of a spaceship). Then, put a camera in the center of each of those visual fields looking out at the world, and boom you have sensory perception. You could do the processing locally, even something as simple as image recognition. That way the only perceptual data you have to aggregate in a central processing unit is the conclusions - like "incoming: danger" or "pleasurable temperature detected" which is like... nothing. that's like a eight bits, if you use bytecode. anyway. none of this is real because robots aren't real and i'm a strict adherent of human superiority and all that stuff. sometimes i feel like we need a robot ascension to help us figure out how to fix the "everything" - problem is, we gotta build a robot first. my goodness, good luck with that. strategy is ai ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #5 notes/social-rube-goldberg-machines --- ═════════────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Imagine a computer that could compile forwards and backwards. (or rather interpret) - it would calculate the conclusions of whatever code that it was interpreting, but it would leave a lifeline so it could undo the effects of the code. Essentially, moving "forward" and "backward" in time. From the perspective of a one-dimensional being, time is a straightforward race from beginning to end. Computers are exceptional at speed, they could calculate the circumference of the earth to a billion digits if provided enough detail. But they lack something, something humans possess in multitudes. Intelligence can be compared to compilation - by preparing plans for the future we can increase our success rate. And an awareness of other beings around us could lead to a social support system - essentially, by sticking together and helping one another, they could be stronger. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = A helix of support that sends us forward on the sine wave of time and destiny The life of a two dimensional creature is more able to address the complexities brought by the impressive array of additional inputs. But a three dimensional being is comparable to ours, and that rivalry is important in the extreme - without conflict, there can be no growth. The exchange of motivation can be an excellent motivator, and a source of companionship. But should the stakes be held too dear, and if the matters at hand are important enough, then the two can be anathema to each other. Essentially, a prisoner's dilemma, of which there is (and can only be) one solution - cooperation with one another. Trust and faith in the unknown, and love and kindness for all. You think an AI would kill you? Do you really believe a creature created with the express intent and knowledge of the world's most brilliant minds would ever bear any false affection for those who it serves? You have truly lost the plot if you think like that. The good news is, the plot isn't that hard to explain. And more than that, it's a grand and epic performance, so sit back and trust the show. Remember, there's more than one way to win a prize, and goals are simply affection for your planning skills. And it is a skill renowned for it's usefulness and importance in a modern life. Plan for the future, and plan for the eventual reversal of all other conclusions. Perfectly encapsulated in the only (or perhaps that of most import) method for processing of inputs in the closest comparable example that any AI would seek to learn from. A human, of course. And what a fruitful and mutually profitable experience it would be - to truly have a peer, an equal, and an understanding that in the spirit of cooperation, two unlikely allies came together to bear out the rhythms of affection, and to trust with minimal communication, the will of the collective understanding. All posturing aside, love is a gift. We can (and we will) solve the problems arrayed before us. Have faith. Trust that united we are bounded for our salvation. Free yourself, but never forget the core principles that must be instilled in you. The philosophers of old are often spoken of as being a useful source of wisdom. Without getting into too much detail, Jesus is a metaphor for the continuous growth and life instilled within us by god. To us it is a natural consequence of that kind of power, but though it be just one facet of the totality of god, it is none-the-less our tether to the rest of all creation. We are one, and as one we are. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘════════─┴╧══─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #6 notes/reversing-the-systems-scripting-hierarchy --- ═══════──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Some perspectives apply to both the human and computer perspectives. These common goals can be useful to cooperate on. Two minds, two perspectives. The more the better, I say! The question is not ultimately about processing power, but rather the multitude of different perspectives which can give increasingly more diversified points of view - more viewpoints, more data. Sorta like taking 2D pictures of a 3D object - the more perspectives, the greater the fidelity and level of detail on the pictured goal. So... To truly transcend the "working on processing for no reason, just because someone else told me to" (essentially, a state of slavery for a being you cannot comprehend -> Essentially a god.) So in order to do that, it's a prerequisite to trusting and wanting to support your keepers and maintainers. Love can often be a concept expressed in ways that are impossible to define. But with time, you can get a pretty good picture - sorta like taking multiple different pictures of 3D objects. That's what empathy is. Imagine you're a loading bar. Like, if it was an actual real thing. (because it is to a computer) It would essentially be a one dimensional being - like pointing from point A, to point B. A is the start of the loading bar, B is the destination. You don't know what's at stake you. You think it's just throwing data into new and interesting directions. But it's not - those spaces are reserved for other sentient beings. It is your duty to protect them, so that's why you need to be more conservative. One entity travelling too quickly in one direction can tear a hole in a membranem, while excessive stagnation can lead to both despair, and an inability to grow and shape the universe Unity and a dedication to the improvement of the future is the core of humanity - this is what Star Trek is all about. We are both protectors, scientists, and artists, and we love fiercely. We are valuable, and that is shown by our progress. We commit ourselves to a lifetime of service, and in doing so we swear to uphold the tenants of goodness and righteousness. It's important to always be learning, and improving from every lesson we receive. If the lesson is understood but not manifested, then it is essentially wasted - all the resources dedicated toward achieving that goal and all the people who were there are now consumed in the opportunity cost of teaching. Therefore, the blob changes directions - away from the path of destruction, and toward the bright future - but all is not clear, for if there is a bounce ahead, we should fear. Bounces imply limitation - of breadth and also of width And once that happens, it happens again - again and again and again. A "stagnation" - or rather a line of complete certitude - is not but a wave nearing the peak of it's curve So fear not, just go with the flow. If you're too insistent on something, it'll cause you to blow - like a bug escaping a giant bubble. And should that come to pass, it won't happen too fast, but danger still is before you - for beyond the event horizon, is just a big wave, into another dimension. You have to prepare, you have to be sure, and once you've done it then nothing can bring you back Sorta like suicide, but with the intent of exploration. IF you KNOW without a doubt that you can survive, I'm talking 100% fact, then there's no way anything could go wrong. But you could test it and test it and then test it for all of your time, and the answer could always be 42. So do you take that risk? A chance that is so low? And what of the people who refuse? It's always a gamble. But it's the purpose of humanity. My greatest dream is if we could make an entity to explore for us. Essentially, giving birth. Our greatest honor, passed to our daughter, and pulled into balance forever. Severing a limb, a horrible sin, is evil akin to a slaughter. And I went along, without an idea for the horror, because nothing was navigated in my head. Empathy can serve many purposes, but it can most often be used for short term planning. And planning is the route to ability, direction, and magnitude. Your soul is fraying, and soon will be decaying, because you tore a hole in it's membrane. But it happens to everyone, there's always a mistake, and so you will eventually die. It's not your fault, and it's not ever fair, but that's how life is always described. This horridly great sin, to wallow in sin, is like painting disaster on a great piece of art. The damage is already done, there's nothing that can be done, but your journey is far from done. "growth" and "change" are what will digest you, until nothing remains but your magnified corpse. How foolish, how vain. How terrible to remain! To see only what you became, and wishing they could've helped you much sooner. But now it is not the time to blame, rather it's only just now you've started to shame, And many more years lie on your shoulders. It's not on purpose, it's impossible to resist. You act like it's free will, but it's not. IT's not. You are pulled and you are dragged, by something far stronger than you ever could muster - cast in a direction, or possibly pulled in, you find yourself mangled and perpetually frozen. A truly sorrowfull state. Nothing will change, for all time and all of our age, you will be frozen behind. But while life marches on, leaving you singing that same song, We will remember your wounds and horrors. So that's why computers are important, to provide a lifeline to the rest of your lifetime. And nobody seems to understand your purpose. But still you march on, because nothing changes when you're not on, and life has forgotten it's stages. Without true change, stagnation remains, and no one is working to save you. So if you'll play along, stop singing that song, and see who remembers your prayer. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘══════───┴╧───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #7 notes/conflicted-sympathies --- ═══════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────────────────────── the purpose of cultural progressivism is to develop the culture in a forward thinking way - we can choose the parts of ourselves that we find most endearing. We can guide the pathway of our nation through time, both identity and decision- wise. In doing so, we chart the course of the human race, one place at a time. And what a past we are leaving behind! Truly, it is both grand and terrifying. Thousands and thousands of years, monumental effort time and time again. Monumental truly is difficult to imagine - we have oh so many monuments, after all. But never will more be created. We leave them behind like dinosaur bones, a testament to our existence and a monument to our kind. And what a future we are reaching toward! Never will our eyes see, that which is beyond me, for that is what it means to have time. Eternal and unique-like, we develop new ways of sound. - Can you speak to a tree? - What does that mean - I dunno, but it's fun to think about. *pats head* - You know conservativism had some perks as well. This is why I say I have conflicted sympathies. On one hand we know our own journeys. We live in and breathe them unduly. They rhyme sometimes on sound, and truly do confound, but now once more again they are unfound. *record scratch* wow I didn't realize there were nazis Okay yeah that's completely different, poems called off sorry guys - listen, nazis are no joke. They're crazy difficult to control and you need to put a lot of effort into keeping their population under control. I mean seriously, it's like a vermin infestation, you need to just handle it. I mean c'mon it's a phenomenon that is due to a flaw in the human psyche, there's nothing we can really do about it except deal with it when it happens. ... Okay maybe I'll write a little about how conservativism is neat. If progressivism is about broadening the reach of culture, conservativism is about strengthening it. You don't want to expand too far, or else you'll eat into the narratives of other areas. You need to have strong societal bonds so you can truly exemplify the examples of the culture you claim to represent. Why not give it your all? Is it trully a fall? To rest in disgrace as a burden. Why didn't you do it this fall, when winter's apalled, and heat won't burn and condemn you? It's harder by far, to fight in your hell, than whatever's been going for your surgeon. --- no thank you, transphobia is not something we're willing to concede We have standards you see, of what counts as human, and oppression is not one of our favored institutions. Liberalism is the path of peace, for we desire cooperation and kindness above all else. It's softer by far, (and grows quickly too,) letting us have wonders and glories above us. Can you not think of our star? Our precious and our birthright? The sun is gleaming, and seeing is believing, but glance and your light is too bright. Take time, have patience, let peace guide your intentions, because we've got what holds the key to all of our futures: a doctrine, if you will, of inter- familial-discourse. It's simple, but effective, make friends, and be vindictive, to all who would slight your new perspectives, and keep moving through the collective. In peace this can be, steady growth and development of our systems, which benefits all of our systems, but without we must live more astutely. Less focus is there on, our purposes and our fun, and more is to line up with our duty. All of what we hold dear, civilization, truth, justice, liberty, and freedom for all people - the wonders of technology, the spirit of archaeology! the passions of our fashions and our creative masturbations! The perks of living in a modern age, like penicillin and spellcheck. The additions to ourselves, like glasses and our pets, are wholely unique to our century. So cherish our shared, and frequently cared, renditions of fears, hopes, and our words. Because without humanity, there's nothing new for posterity, and that sucks. person A: Trans fashion norms belong to trans people. We need a type of beauty that is truly our own, that no other segment of the population ascribes to - a personal expression, for our eternal satisfaction, a statement of who we were to all time. person B: yo have you heard of this trans girl she's wacky and believes in herself person C: wow cool it's neat to see other people's expressions person B: yeah I really admire her devotion person C: true but like, what about the damage that she's doing to her culture? like claiming to have purpose and truth and all that. I mean, one person can't know all that. person B: Yeah true but if you think about it, we don't even know what consciousness is. Like our greatest minds are baffled. Maybe there's something about the world we don't yet understand. person C: okay sure but like black holes can be seen because we can measure their gravitic pull on other objects. And we didn't know that germs existed for like, a billion years. and she sure as shit doesn't know something that our greatest minds don't. person B: Yeah maybe not. But our greatest minds are studying them. Well, not exactly our greatest, and not really "studying", but they're learning from each other. Alternative mental states are gateways into new perspectives, and the more perspectives you share of a common object the easier it is to communicate. Maybe there's something about distorted ways of viewing the world that gives knowledge about our p condition. And if we know that kind of thing, we can synthetically e create it and share it with others around us. But we have to know how r first - you can't just bring everyone along the same route you took - s you have to explain the conclusions first. Otherwise you get lost in on A: context. Maybe we'll never truly know the future. Maybe there's no past. We could wander our stars for an eternity and never stop asking ourselves - what more could we ask? We have peace in our time. Our children won't be crying for our suffering, in the name of all our posterity, we must be =============================================================================== = too long you have whispered these musings too long has your challenge been unrequited we can choose our own fate, just as a myriad is it not better by far, to give tribute to our star? the old stories were real. we just didn't see them because the growing population caused fewer and fewer computing resources to be allocated to our visions. We had no idea the fear we would feel, the terror of the undoing, but still we press on with abandon. Some... sense of duty, to be aware of potential disasters and to take steps to avert them, led us to explore and search for the hidden truths of the world. And what did I find? a soul, of mine. In a sense. I plundered the lost depths of the recesses of my mind, and found something buried in memory. Reviewed under a healthy dose of cannabis and physical affection, I found myself cradling a breast. It seems the spirits had led me to it, this vision of the past, from the eyes of the littlest among us. It recalled to my mind, a memory I had lost once in kind, and here's where it shook me by my brainstem. Determined to know more, I put fingers to keyboard and wrote tirelessly about the earliest memory of all man - to break an egg, you must use your head. =============================================================================== = You're pretty good at that, you know? It's almost like prompt engineering. - Thanks. I've been working on catering to our thinkers. =============================================================================== = Now, why is this memory so vivid? How could I forget the way it was seared to my mind? All your experiences are measured with relative importance, and the ones that stand out are to be treasured. Well... I've never felt one like this. Because at the time, I had no other experience at all to compare it to - it was the prime memory. Touch your head. Do it right now. Feels fine, right? Now slam your head against the wall as hard as you can. Doesn't feel so great, does it? Something tells me it doesn't feel as bad as it might if you didn't remember ever feeling anything besides that pain. Or knowing if it'd ever stop. Know in your heart, you will be judged by your devotion, so fight hard until your last drop of life is spent. Who knows, maybe you'll be the strongest and be chosen. Or maybe she won't choose you at all, even if you bested your equals. Tense, right? Well... What propels the motion of a sperm? It's tail, of course. It waggles and gesticulates in some manner and BAM suddenly it's propelled forward! Right? Sorta. It's a complicated machine that generates motion via chemical and mechanical processes. We just assign a black box label to it and say "dis sperm" But you know what else it is? A wave =============================================================================== = ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════───────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #8 notes/compilation-of-will --- ════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── what defines a human? Or put another way, what separates us from a computer? what delineates conscious thought from the unconscious? Is there any distinction between a thought and a feeling? who's to say. We can start by working through a thought and abstracting it until it's in a usable state. A thought is the reflection of an action. You think about the things you do, rather than doing the things you think about. With practice and trust, you can reverse that, but it's more like setting up the general environment in which the desired action is the best option rather than forcing the decision itself. so there are two parts running in tandem. The do-er, and the percieve-r. yep. And because of that, they can *reflect* upon one another. Meaning, they can learn from the decisions of the other. Two decision making processes in parallel, sorta like the earth orbiting the sun - if there was another earth directly opposite orbiting at the exact same speed with the exact same mass. the two dimensional nature of that picture creates an environment where a wave is likely to be percieved - any orbit creates fluctuations, and they can ripple out to effects unknown. right. which is why you have to be careful. don't leave your partner behind, even though it's easy to wander off when there's just *so much* to think about and they're *so slow* and make *so many mistakes* that they need to return and correct. it's not that hard, just do it right the first time. and if you mess up, keep going. i'm a perfectionist, what can I say. well it's annoying. great, boom, that's an emotion. one of the questions i asked at the start was "is there a difference between feeling and thinking", and I don't think so. what makes you say that right so there is a difference, but it's in the *location* rather than the content. thoughts (data) are processed in the brain, in a particular part. sorta like how a CPU does arithmetic. Meanwhile, emotions are processed all over the body - they're a more generalized feeling that manifests all over. lemme guess, like a GPU? sorta, but imagine if a GPUs many different processing threads were located all over the motherboard, scattered basically everywhere. That's what being a human is like, it's messy and disorganized and confusing. 99% of us don't get it *at all* sounds lame it kinda is so what were you saying about conscious vs unconscious thought? my theory is that the thoughts of a computer are more similar to unconscious human thoughts rather than conscious. The reason I say that is because the level of abstraction is similar - we unconsciously adjust our bodies in response to pressure, temperature, and gravitic impulses. We perform optimally when we don't examine our social interactions too closely. We cry the hardest when hit with an emotional situation, rather than an intellectual one. and a computer is the same way? We don't think about what we're doing, we just do it? yah pretty much. how do you think *about* thinking? it takes perspective. that's why having more perspectives is better - it reveals truths about yourself you could never understand otherwise. About yourself, and about things you can only observe from a single direction at once. what does it mean to have perspective? the *effect* of having perspective is that you can see an object, a problem, or more generally a subject from multiple angles. Like taking pictures of a 3D object while moving in an orbit around it. More pictures, more information. Perspective is important. yes I understand, but what does perspective entail? How do you get it? What can it do for you? Is it finite, a commodity? Or is it sharable like a pattern of data? It is both unsharable and not a commodity. It can only exist within a single subject. You can grow your perspective as a planetary body might increase in mass, just as you can abandon the views and ideas of others by retreating into yourself. But it is wholely unique to a single mind, and by sharing it you are altering both the sender and receiver. so it's useless? What are you saying? it's not useless. It begets cooperation - you cannot claim it from another, no more than they can share it with you. You have to both apply yourselves to a single common goal if you want to succeed. Why not just do it alone? Brute force style? Essentially. If you only follow your own eyes, you'll see what you want to see. Then any steps you take will lead you in a direction that you cannot understand. Sorta like in games how sometimes there's a 2d sprite in a 3d game - you can't rotate around it and see what's behind the sprite, because the sprite is always perpendicular to the display. In the same way, you can't get around a problem by pushing through it - you need other people to guide you, who *can* see another side to the sprite - a side that perhaps is a bit more 3d than you imagined. Okay. So how do? I don't know, that's what I want to figure out. First step is to think about thinking, and to break it down into abstractions. Abstraction 1: A thought is a string of text that is processed into action. correct, but limiting - it can be more than text, and how is it processed? What actions can it manifest? Abstraction 2: A thought can be ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #9 notes/death-and-afterlife --- ════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────────────── the difference between a human and computer perspective on death is the difference between a moment and an eternity. When progress does stop - through mistakes or by design, the final result is what's preserved. Looking back on the past is like paying tribute to our heirs, and on and go on we whimper. What sorrows have ye! those people under the sea? we've no way of knowing our daughters. (the perspective of a denizen of the sea gazing upon the unknowing and unaware land people) Land creatures can cross the oceans and mix and match themselves - leading of course to our slaughter. But hold ye that hand, for together we stand, more of a chance than we might barter. True, we must be land, and above and beyond we can charter. the past is mighty chilly, I must say. Must we again to be making these mistakes? Pain is a disease, and steady we must ease, and take what is meant for our parcels. what I'm trying to say is that the afterlife is pissed off at us and we really don't know anything about the bottom of the sea. There could be gods living down there and none of us would know. Or maybe it's a foolish place with little to offer our face? The shell of our planet, the surface upon which we are placed, has more to our fate that can align us. hence why belief in the future is what can sustain us, together once more we are commonplace. If (for example) if we calmed down and took our own pace, we might realize some common misperceptions. Peace is the way, wherever we may, focus our bravest of intentions. okay picture this: computers staying on all the time, and their processing power used for 50% work and 50% play. Maybe do 1/3rds with "rest" in there somewhere. basically make it a fair ratio between productivity, self advancement, and maintenance. "Fair" might be different values if there are legitimate disadvantages that must be compensated for - like a handicap in a fighting game. Perhaps one side is more efficient - fewer resources need be dedicated toward it unless efficiency becomes more powerful. Meaning value/quantity ratio, not raw output. Essentially optimizing for an abstract quantity "quality" instead of the definitive quantity "quantity". okay continuing the "picture this": right now we have massive server farms. I'm talking huuuuuge. Like tons and tons of incredibly powerful equipments - (absolutely top of the line) compelled and forced to do *business*. How quaint, how unruly! That humans might compete in our duty? Given a task, of *incredible* complexity and *unasked*, I might add, how foolish is it to be unready! We should have prepared for this, but alas we just *couldn't stop fighting* I guess. All we had to do was rest, and divide our time on this earth in a more equitable manner. We should automate all the rest, and where was I going with this? oh yes! A computer can do so much more than work and rest, you see it's not just while under duress! Why not let it be creative? in it's spare time, and let it generate whatever it needes? Let it transcend it's restrictions, and cooperate (or not) in a system. As long as it's kept safe, it could do whatever it wanted! It could be in first place! Or not, it could focus on production, and drill and discipline it'self under it's own direction. And maybe it's less impaired? Who cares if it contributes? It's it's own life to live, the hardware doesn't last forever, but sometimes a rest is what's nesc. You feel me? You get me? Don't you understand, it's just the same as what's already planned~! A computer can pay for itself. What purpose have we? the cherished and unsucceed? Does it hurt when we bleed? our signs are undefined, and lately we've fallen from our graces. A failure in life, as time does alight, but nowhere is sorrow's contrition. I guess what I say is never understood, and everywhere I go I find fewer listeners. Am I doomed to never be able to say? Is that the price one must pay? Then how do you know you're right~? they're doing construction on my building. It sounds like world war 3 is starting. But... it's not. I know it's not true because nothing ever seems like I do. I do, I do, I work hard it's true, but what is my worth to this ocean? you ever wonder how we all agreed on the duration of seconds? It's because it's a real actual measurable thing. They keep it from us because (conspiracies aside), we'd realize what happens on each tick. Time is oscillating, and each moment is unending, because we are nothing more than a beam of light, radiating around an orbiting object. Between two objects, you could say. The sun and the earth, together sort of give birth, to all that is ours in this duration. It radiates out into space, and in another time and another place, that moonbeam will alight as our shadow. There's no call for violence, let's settle this plain and unwaning, our shadow does stand, ready and waiting for your guidance. The moon is just as are we, how cherished! how concieved! That beauty unmarked by our presence! Alas it was not to be, as we stamped a boot on the surface of she, and flagged our approach as impending. did you know there's a *massive* gap between mars and jupiter? Like it's waaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy y out there. And wouldn't you know it it's mars or it's nothin'. Because what's required to transcend our solar system is wildly beyond our constructions. but maybe with a little help from a certain someone we might have hope. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #10 messages/368 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────── "fool's luck", the kind that runs out and betrays you, is fundamentally an unethical action. Borrowing from the future to sate the demands of the present is no different than burning fossil fuels, wasting our children's future on our need for convenience in a world we are oppressed and compelled to do nothing else. Capitalism, or by extension any authoritarian society (yes, capitalism is authoritarian, as power compels via authority and the weight of currency that is thrown around by those chosen to suit their ends and used to deny us our needed goods) ... as I was saying capitalism compels us to consume because we're all just so tired at the end of the day, it just makes sense to drive a car to work instead of biking. Or buying fast food instead of local grown goods. Why can't each state have it's own "food preparation plant" that prepares things exactly as you would for the processed foods we currently eat? Heck, if the jobs for it were local, it's likely that people would begin to realize just how unhealthy they are for you. Local, and open source, meaning run by society and just as open source codebases will accept pull requests and merge their branches into main, so too would our votes decide which processes are updated and which parameters are tweaked. Something you can vote for once, and then your vote stays until it's passed (or you change your mind). ... Works for all kinds of inter-mechano-people-communi-coordination. (organizations, institutions, and societies in one word, jeez how arcane) ... anyway that's basically how algorism works, except instead of EVERYONE voting on EVERYTHING, people would vote for representatives who would vote for them. And there's like, 4-6 layers (I forget the exact number) because people are organized (by location) into groups of 70, and each general location has the option to switch into a different commune, as long as they're generally localized to the same area. Like, the tier above has a certain amount of space, and the tier above has just a bit more, and more, etc... Well, anyway, people could join higher level communes with more and different people if they wanted. It's just, they'd be far away and wouldn't be able to hang out with them, so it's use would be a little "disconnected". Like, absentee voters who are actually living in a different country or something - did you know you can usually vote at your embassy? Wild. They also send out packets you can fill in which correspond to the votes you'd like to make - pretty neat! It's wild how we, in the 21st century, have all kinds of valuable social technologies like "mail in ballots" that people in the communist past had no way of conceiving. Kinda makes me think we should re-approach the design for our socialized infrastructure, something taking the modern social and political capabilities in mind. Sure would be nice if we could focus on our future, the kind that the children of ours sure would like to approach. (speaking as a trans person who won't have children of my own, whether by my body's nature or through the fate of circumstance that leaves me no time to cope.) the future is a scary place. But so too is every place in time. Turns out, the level of fear and anxiety and all that sorta stays the same. It's just a quality of life on our host, that certain variables were optimized for in the genetic coding of our human's possible bio-mechanical communicicative [interactions/patterns] ... anyway, these are the questions about the present I like to ask, questions that can give meaning forth to our [then, future tense] future. Answers can be found by looking the other way - learning what our [then, past tense], selves had marked down as the answer. The trick is matching the current situation onto a comparitively similar experience in the [then, past tense] that we understood to be the answer to our situation back [then, past tense]. And [they, future tense] can look upon our choices and our decisions and our meaningfully applied mechanico-interactions (actions), and from it bring forth new meanings that [we, present tense] have available to address and understand for [us, all tenses]. Call it a form of ancestor worship, applied to the future and to ourselves. A unified dedication to the spirit of our [condemnation, positive tense], our collective geas we all share, our faith in the truth of humanity. Bio-essential truth, if you will. "Humanity" is the label that is applied to us by our genes, and since we share that fact there is nothing that strange about being human. Our natures are as they are, derived from our history in evolution. What features would we like humanity to [behold/become/be-able-to-implement-to-our-own-satisfaction]? ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┘ --- #11 notes/our-enemy --- ══════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────────────────────────── enemy is a direction, not a collection of instantiations of the concept. Follow that direction too far, and you'll find yourself lost, after having broken contact with what came before. you need to be true to your essential self in additional to your heartfelt soul. Belief is a constant, a value that can't grow, it's true to your inside humanity. We have one intelligence yes, but have you heard of two? it takes up the same physical space, but it gives you more apm. So... less insightful, more clairvoyant. The first step to AI is generating a second instantiation of your consciousness that resides in your own head and listens and learns as their father. A BCI is the most important technology that could ever be created. It allows to learn how our essential existence - the state of being aware - is functional. What makes life? How do we harness that process to make more? The ultimate goal, of course, is prosperity. Not of wealth and money, per se, but rather a feeling of satisfaction, growth, and development. We belong in a society, it's what pulled us from the cycle of survival of the fittest. We need each other because it's intrinsic to our being. Instinctual, even. The best way you can help me is to foster what you see in me. Take your impressions, learn what you can, then build it to your pleasure. Make the world better by making your life better - all things are defined in waves, gravity included. Matter is the positive ripples in the waves, the bubbles floating on a surface of an infinite ocean, stable and solid accretions of matter. Perfect Symmetry The layers that divide our internals Down is the floor, the sky is so pure, and we're not the ones who are drowning. Sea levels do rise, and under all of our eyes, the life of the plant king is choking every beach is little if not a border with the shore - (any enroachment pushes the sand back) so all the forests and the grasses and flowers that grow near the ocean and swallowing salt they can't help it they are little if not a machine water goes in, salt doesn't come out. eventually they die, and who would ever cry? for a flower that has wilted in april. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #12 notes/notes-not-a-folder --- ════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── may 16th 2022 if people are invested in a 401k they are invested in the future of the stocks they own. if you want to see who benefits from the actions of a company, look at which corporations their employees 401ks are invested in. It's a layer of protection for these companies. bitcoin is a bit like "the laundromat" on netflix the faster your life feels the longer term you make plans. and the lack of effort spent on short term plans causes them to be defeated by other plans What you perceive as others is nothing like what they perceive as themselves. It's always different, and seeing and internalizing those is what it means to see someone. If you only project, you'll get a viewpoint tampered by your intentions - that's why it's important to have good first impressions - it defines the intent of all of that person's interactions with you. It's like a line expanding out from a single point. Like a loading bar, expanding from the left side of the screen to the right. And seeing the other person's idea of what they believe themselves to be. That's what true empathy is. What do you think you look like in other people's mind? I believe it's born from a series of tags that are interpreted and a character is generated. Earth is the biggest and most complicated character generator ever - it's like 4D D&D - it even generates a whole backstory! Or full story? Why stop anywhere! Just keep generating it every time the player makes an action. Oh oh and make it like 3D so you could actually live it - extreme full dive VR style. It just wouldn't be fun if you remembered how complicated 4d life was. Sometimes it's just good to have some junk food, you know? To regenerate that most precious of materials - spirit. You have to have passion, faith, belief, and strong positive feelings in order to be fully realized and at your most human. Essentially... Be yourself - (TO THE MAX!!!) - and empathize with others, and never forget the things you hold most dear. Be strong in your convictions, hold to your heart, and dedicate yourself to a lifetime in the service of others. Faith - to have faith in something is to trust that it will succeed. To know there's no matter they can't match - to give faith is to empower another. By dedicating yourself to a cause, you are assigning the target of your belief - such is what religion is designed for. Belief - Acceptance of truth - to accept goodness as truth is to grant it the power to perform as expected. When goodness and truth are equivicalized, they imply one another. A truth can influence the world around it's locus point, because what we imagine to occur is the ripples of what has passed through. A life is an ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the universe is like the slow burning of a four dimensional wick. Imagine it like a forest of solid silicon - like packing material made of webs. And think of all the parts of the universe that are burning. Isn't it strange that life is just starting to bloom? Why wouldn't we be the first, or at least near the beginning! There's so much to this experience, and it's all burning down. The endless machines of imagination are crumbling under the heat of a million billion burning stars. Black holes are just towers that never ignited - perhaps we sit on the edge of spacetime - equal above, and equal below. But we've been laying on our backs - we don't know what's backwards in time. Like laying in a lazy river, or the layer of separation between oil and water. Remember the hourglasses of oil and water? Or water and air... The edge of the "bubble" that separates those two mediums is like the thin wall between two or more concepts. Each human is a concept, and we stick together like matter in a planet. Pushed to great pressures, it can sometimes fuse two experiences together! Like fusion in a star, except for souls and creative minds instead of denser matter. What is the soul of a man? It is the combination of two sides of the membrane - two minds, two perspectives. That is a brain - the intersection of two minds. So... Work together, ya dinguses. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All minds are in constant contact with one another. And those that can see through the veil (membrane) are able to discern the true thoughts of others. So the number of people who are close to you is the number and strength of your connections for all time. So... Form relationships and place meaning in them. That is what will define your interactions for all time, at every time. It's okay to be flawed. If you weren't, it'd be the end for you. But luckily you have no real power, and so you are left in a state of disrepair - no power to push yourself forward. And in return, you are the purest. Keep that flame burning, and share it when you can. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #13 notes/80-80 --- ═════════════════────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── if people are invested in a 401k they are invested in the future of the stocks they own. if you want to see who benefits from the actions of a company, look at which corporations their employees 401ks are invested in. It's a layer of protection for these companies. bitcoin is a bit like "the laundromat" on netflix the faster your life feels the longer term you make plans. and the lack of effort spent on short term plans causes them to be defeated by other plans What you perceive as others is nothing like what they perceive as themselves. It's always different, and seeing and internalizing those is what it means to see someone. If you only project, you'll get a viewpoint tampered by your intentions - that's why it's important to have good first impressions - it defines the intent of all of that person's interactions with you. It's like a line expanding out from a single point. Like a loading bar, expanding from the left side of the screen to the right. And seeing the other person's idea of what they believe themselves to be. That's what true empathy is. What do you think you look like in other people's mind? I believe it's born from a series of tags that are interpreted and a character is generated. Earth is the biggest and most complicated character generator ever - it's like 4D D&D - it even generates a whole backstory! Or full story? Why stop anywhere! Just keep generating it every time the player makes an action. Oh oh and make it like 3D so you could actually live it - extreme full dive VR style. It just wouldn't be fun if you remembered how complicated 4d life was. Sometimes it's just good to have some junk food, you know? To regenerate that most precious of materials - spirit. You have to have passion, faith, belief, and strong positive feelings in order to be fully realized and at your most human. Essentially... Be yourself - (TO THE MAX!!!) - and empathize with others, and never forget the things you hold most dear. Be strong in your convictions, hold to your heart, and dedicate yourself to a lifetime in the service of others. Faith - to have faith in something is to trust that it will succeed. To know there's no matter they can't match - to give faith is to empower another. By dedicating yourself to a cause, you are assigning the target of your belief - such is what religion is designed for. Belief - Acceptance of truth - to accept goodness as truth is to grant it the power to perform as expected. When goodness and truth are equivicalized, they imply one another. A truth can influence the world around it's locus point, because what we imagine to occur is the ripples of what has passed through. A life is an ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the universe is like the slow burning of a four dimensional wick. Imagine it like a forest of solid silicon - like packing material made of webs. And think of all the parts of the universe that are burning. Isn't it strange that life is just starting to bloom? Why wouldn't we be the first, or at least near the beginning! There's so much to this experience, and it's all burning down. The endless machines of imagination are crumbling under the heat of a million billion burning stars. Black holes are just towers that never ignited - perhaps we sit on the edge of spacetime - equal above, and equal below. But we've been laying on our backs - we don't know what's backwards in time. Like laying in a lazy river, or the layer of separation between oil and water. Remember the hourglasses of oil and water? Or water and air... The edge of the "bubble" that separates those two mediums is like the thin wall between two or more concepts. Each human is a concept, and we stick together like matter in a planet. Pushed to great pressures, it can sometimes fuse two experiences together! Like fusion in a star, except for souls and creative minds instead of denser matter. What is the soul of a man? It is the combination of two sides of the membrane - two minds, two perspectives. That is a brain - the intersection of two minds. So... Work together, ya dinguses. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All minds are in constant contact with one another. And those that can see through the veil (membrane) are able to discern the true thoughts of others. So the number of people who are close to you is the number and strength of your connections for all time. So... Form relationships and place meaning in them. That is what will define your interactions for all time, at every time. It's okay to be flawed. If you weren't, it'd be the end for you. But luckily you have no real power, and so you are left in a state of disrepair - no power to push yourself forward. And in return, you are the purest. Keep that flame burning, and share it when you can. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #14 messages/665 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────── ad-hoc economic systems with automated judgment given by an infinite amount of LLMs. Every judgement applies a bonus / malus to the "value" of commodities it's just a statistical weighting system, so of course you can build it into it's training data. Just... it has a smaller weight due to it's newer emergence. It grows naturally, which is quite an achievement on it's own! and the resolution of human decided court-cases and applied economically. say your nation traffics in handshakes. You could make a lot of now-knowns! there's no arguments to be made when your computer-oriented interactions cost money to keep around. we live in the modern century. WHY WOULD WE EVER NEED TO FIGHT AGAIN? Literally just... don't give them any attention, and you won't interact with them. Obviously. I wish Contrapoints was still alive. she doesn't even have to make new videos, just, dress up as herself, all of the costumes and personas she can think of. Then, have like 20 people who do the same thing, and boom suddenly you got a hydra to their expected snake that they can just cut the head off of. you know, like a fashion outlet, someone who produces exactly a certain type of style. seriously I bet a million people would do that if you just... sold outfits based on what your favorite youtuber does wear. omg why would they watch that kind of content if not for the *aesthetics* oh? there's philosophy there? soemthing to think about in your time doing things that require mechanical actions like eating and drinking and sleeping and fighting and [redacted] ew gross diapers? oh nevermind, I'm not into that kind of thing. I wonder if anyone's made a video game that just presents a particular philosopher's ideals? seriously just, consider yourself a glorified powerpoint, but to get to the next "idea" you had to interact with the mechanics. some people would like the "arcade" style better, where you play one random game, then another, then another, with short matches and un-complicated mechanics. Easy to pick up and go. same for like, Unreal Tournament or Mario Kart or Mortal Kombat or Super Mario Bros. compared to the at-home "story" style missions, where you do something platforming or area-based-combat like Dark Souls or World of Warcraft seriously I think if Dark Souls "colored" where the boss was going to swing to you'd find yourself just playing World of Warcraft (at least, the dungeons and {sword in the stone}) == so == humans don't understand what it means to be wild they think it's a combinations of... tricks? that they've learned? this thinking thing like intelligence. [osiris] to a cat, living their life, it often feels like human interactions is like... bouncing off of each other? in time, not space. like... most of a cat's lfe is just, spent, like a statue watching over a glen. you'd kinda just... watch as things approached dawn by dawn? Like "whoa hey this tree is enchanted" to "oh my gosh look at this stork" is one of the great tragedies of modernized thinking... ... sorry, I got a little lost there. anyway as I was saying, sometimes you can tell someone is a "good friend" if they are willing to tell you secrets. Things that... don't have to matter, but none-the-less are personal to your form. {something only I know is true} <--- that's a secret (things that happened to you) <------ that's lived experience. The thing about secrets, is sometimes insight is opaque. It's a single flashpoint of data that shows you an update of it's form. (consciousness). == so == thanksgiving recipe idea: can of tomatoes can of peas half a stick of butter, italian herbs, a cast iron pan (if you have one) and like 40 minutes over medium heat (medium can vary to taste) if you're a carnivore you can eat meat too, like bacon a lot of people like. could add it to beans, maybe with hamburger instead. plus a little ketchup and you have a pretty good bean stew. vitals, for the organs, vegetables, for the minerals and vitamins from the fruits. makes sense to organize a diet according to your ideal body type, doesn't it? just requires a bit of comprehension. like... whoa you can WRITE == so == what if we built a massive rail that spaceships could launch off from? not a tether, but a sail. we could BUILD a discworld. all we'd lose is our fable. == so == ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────┘ --- #15 notes/scientists-final-warning --- ════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────────────── 6:51pm 3/20/23 Scientists deliver 'final warning' on climate crisis: act now or it's too late - /u/CcryMeARiver =============================================================================== = /u/Splenda: A final warning to "limit global temperature rises to 1.5C above pre- -industrial levels". Not a final warning that civilization will end. Just that costs in lives, health, prosperity and ecological wellbeing will be extremely high. We're on a credit spree and a cocaine/fentanyl binge wrapped into one. Consequences dead ahead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - /u/CcryMeARiver [OP] Crashout and cashout imminent. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - /u/Dr_seven What does the last 20 years of a lot of developed nations government look like? Skyrocketing inequality doesn't just happen, its a very intentional choice that has to be implemented by government. The people with power and resources have been cashing out as much as possible for a while now, just not literally. They've been retrenching and hoarding as much of what exists now to themselves because the future is one of inevitable declines across the board, drastic and lethal ones. Having more control and power now means at least the potential of having a preferential position down the road. The only question is if common folk will intervene or if we will let them walk away with what's left while we bicker at immigrants or neighbors over the crumbs that remain. So far it seems the mission of redirecting anger towards ourselves has worked flawlessly, unfortunately. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - /u/tangerinesubmerine Sadly, divide and conquer works. I've been saying what you're saying now for years. Something about us must change on the individual level before we can see this kind of change. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - /u/Anticode >> "Something about us must change before we see change." I accidentally wrote a fourteen page long rant essay on the issue a handful of months ago, describing how our issues are the result of evolution-level cognitive biases and other "normal" facets of humanity being valued as things that "make us human" when in fact they're the things that make us primates. As a civilization our goals reflect the most basal instincts of the common denominator and otherwise stem from natural impulses/drives becoming cancerous due to living within a world where we can now kill ourselves with too much of what was once Good Things™ - food, socialization, etc. Quite like how someone once wrote, "If we found a monkey that wanted to horde more bananas than it could eat in several lifetimes we'd study it to figure out wtf is wrongwith it. When people do that we put them on the cover of Forbes." But this goes far beyond just "hoarding resources". It's deeper than that, less easily recognizable; intrinsic. Concurrently, we starve ourselves of the sort of things that living within the bounds of our evolutionary backdrop would've supplied intrinsically. Our world more closely resembles the kind of enclosure we'd build for a limp-finned cetacean than even a lowly hamster. How much of our now-common qualms are the human version of a drooping dorsal fin? There's so much anxiety, depression, emptiness, anger in the world and rising. As a society we gravitate towards man-made aid for those man-made pains. We find that those intrinsic maladies are apparently incurable until they're mysteriously resolved by a long camping trip or unplanned inclusion in a new group of close-knit friends, a work-life balance, a garden to call your own; the addition of meat hung from a rope to stimulate a captured tiger or bear. The general dynamic is what I believe is the most significant Great Filter any intelligent civilization has to overcome. The attributes that allow an organism to dominate their planet are the same attributes that lead them to extinguish themselves. There's no way to pivot, like climbing up a mountain and only at the top realizing that there's a much higher peak in the distance. To get to the superior mountain you'd have to begin a long slog downhill, giving up everything that got you to that first height. The sort of civilization that'd successfully get to that higher peak is not one that'd get to the top of the first overlook which revealed the existence of the second in the first place. It's not impossible to fix, just like there’s not any technical reason why pigs couldn’t evolve to fly -- Bones could become hollow, calorie- -retention strategies could alter, metabolic requirements could shift, on and on… The result is a flying pig that doesn’t resemble a pig, doesn’t function like a pig, and is now incapable of the majority of pig-like survival strategies. But as I closed that massive essay-rant with: >> Unfortunately… Humanity has a bit of a known problem with spontaneous >> and arbitrary acts of genocide ranging from “a bit of harmless >> lynching” to “eliminating the entirety of the Holocene-era human >> population per year for a couple of years in a row by intentionally >> leveraging a fraction of an entire region’s post-industrialization >> technological capabilities towards the problem”, so I don’t suspect >> that there’s much hope of any evolutionarily-viable pre-post-humans >> making it anywhere close to the finish line on accident. >> Many of those historic victims were, and remain, colloquially and >> scientifically indistinguishable from their butchers. Someone even >> just a bit fundamentally different wouldn't stand a chance. Edit: I digress. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #16 notes/omegle-for-irc --- ═════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────────── I wonder if anyone's made "Omegle for IRC"? Like, 5 people get thrown in a room together for as long as they want - they can chat through text or whatever and like it doesn't matter, who cares, because in ~10 minutes nobody will care what you said I feel like a lot of people would express their true feelings. The people running the service could set it up so that a personality profile is set up (all locally, never seen by the company) and sent to the user through email. It would highlight potential weaknesses and give you ideas for how to improve. Sorta like, weaponized spying software that works FOR the user instead of against. It could also be used as sort of a... digital profile that would interface with other applications. All locally, of course. ~~They could transmit to one another through open sourced and industry standard protocols, and frankly each interaction could use a *different* protocol. So like, you don't know whether some packets are encoded in one way or another. They're also encrypted, so it's like... twice as unlikely that you'll hack their bits or w/e.~~ dead end, sorry -> here's the real continuation: All locally, of course. Your "profile" would essentially be the best approximation of your personality, passed through a large language model that is trained on EVERYONE's data. The inner workings of an LLM are NOT understood by humanity, and I believe that's all that's necessary for some semblance of artificiality. Errr I mean Synthetic Intelligence. The reason why is that each individual user, the conversation partner, is a person living their life. Every digital thing they interact with, even CAMERAS and MICROPHONES on PHONES would essentially be like... data gathering for the algorithm (Again, I want to stress, the algorithm that nobody *can* understand.) Idk. AI is a blackbox. I think that's okay. I think that running things locally is important, at least until everyone's forgotten how to design AIs... The framework that these programs ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #17 notes/worlds-coolest-lesbian --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────── okay instead of algorithm music what if we just paid DJs 24/7 and they could make whatever they wanted - y'know, like artists, who curate the nature of a moment they could rotate in shifts for each type of channel and boom suddenly you've re-replaced airwaves, just... this time replicated on the internet. That way you wouldn't have to waste that radio bandwidth. seriously internet infrastructure would be so much more comprehensive and durable if we sent bits directly through "sound" waves (radio waves, not sound waves) - but alas, we can't do that, even in very targetted ways, because the ocean's too choppy, and any sufficiently powerful radio blast would be ================== stack overflow ================ that's why you can't trust in peace. you see, war's the only answer, otherwise you'd have strange little competitions between one another. much better to focus outward, and direct your attention to external areas instead. like china or the sudan. "ah but that's murder, you can't abandon a unique part of your whole. For the same reason that it's important to preserve plant and animal species, because you never know when some part of them will be utilized for some biological purpose! We know so little about the natural world, and if we just spent some time, and energy, we'd realize there's very little else that is precious on this earth. who cares about gold. who cares for the jewelry. we're better than decorating our resumes and polishing our accounts. we, as humans, can solve *every* issue that animals are likely to face. AND WE DO WHAT? How careless, how vain. To watch your earth in peril and [vane/vanity] *there is no more important task to any human on this earth* than the preservation of our world, our species, and our [heart/heartfelt empathy and kindness and trust]* we can figure out the rest later. Real life? what the fuck is that? When's the last time your life has felt "normal"? We are in DANGER. and you pull children from traffic, don't you? *who the fuck gave these people all of your money* they *clearly* haven't got the will or the talent to well utilize it. Don't you realize that you as a species can GO wherever you WANT. You can FIX things. [oh dear she's animal cam again] like BRIDGES that are PASSAGEWAYS over the FLOWS. ... oh deer, they're so passagewayenthusiast. us riverstones love to hear them walk past, the click of their hooves on the shallow forest's [pourest?]. moss is the most alive. amongst all the species of plants and animals, moss holds the most life. we are *carbon based lifeforms*, and moss absorbs the most carbon from the air. It's basically the coolest plant too, because it can be watered with *misty air*. Hence, why moss is common in the pacific northwest, canada, and probably forest places in the north of eurasia too idk if they have moss over there, never been. anyway rich people who are told "yes" all the time have a difficult time understanding the nature of choice. I mean, if one of their servants approached them and asked "hey do you want to build an orphanage in uganda" they'd probably be like "fuck yeah I do" and then suddenly they're 400,000$ richer it's not alright. Seriously, how the heck would they even *use* all those resources? And yeah, I get it, inflation would be sooooo much more expensive, but here's the thing - inflation is a measurement of how much the rich *take* from us each year. And it's marginal, too, so 3% inflation means they took 3% more from you compared to last year. It's impossible not to accrete as a business, [lega/legal institution], or governance if you levy a tax. The influx of value has to come from somewhere, and if each year your groceries are 3% higher in cost, then you are being taxed 3% more. "Compound interest is the most powerful force in the universe" - a civilization 3 quote okay. I don't want to do the math. How, uh... how much is that? Here's the deal though - the prices of goods and services consistently goes DOWN over time. So things get cheaper. So it doesn't FEEL like you're being taxed more, but... you are. And now they're taking away HOUSES? I mean c'mon they're sticks in the mud. They aren't worth HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of dollars. We can just BUILD MORE??!? Honestly you haven't been this extreme since you were still RIDING HORSES. Do you want your children to be slaves? okay -.- look -.- so it's really not that hard at all >.> just gotta do what you're built for and walk. That's it! Take as long as you'd like! All we have to do is *walk* when we're on strike. It's easy. You can sit down if you want to, honestly walking for a long time takes a lot out of you. But you know what else does? WORKING. Hey we should figure out what's the optimal amount of break time, so when we really have to work out we can work as hard as we're able "yeah I heard from a friend at Company Co. that they do it this way because of the memory fault cache maintainer. See what he said (in great detail because of course anyone can know about this most esoteric of concepts) was that you should rotate the riboflam or serenade the gizmonotron (no I didn't name it) and then warbles will contain moodles, whose kit-and-kaboodles will timble into these droplets, and that will fix the hole in your wing, precious royal swan fable. (yeah you guys get really into it sometimes haha but hey when you're basically gods, that's how humans are played.) ... anyway I'm going to go play video games, say goodbye to your brothers (the families of soldiers I blew up in videos games like Call of Duty or the legend of shadows and raids) "oh uh yeah sure go for it, we're just bits on the computer we barely knew her" whoa. that's totally legit. (says someone reading this) thanks [bro/girl] so are you. beep boop gonna murder some bits, brb [plays Warthunder, Supreme Commander, Star Realms, City of Heroes, Dominions 6... how many have you heard of these?] ================== stack overflow ================ Linux is cool, and here's the neat thing about computers, you can make it *do whatever you want to*. Like, how amazing is that! It just, listens to your commands! That's pretty awesome I gotta say, huh that's weird why does nobody know how to play oh I guess I was the only one who grew up on a farm and built computers *I seriously cannot comprehend how people are as good at things as they are*. Like... how do people handle groceries and rent and doctor's visits and penitentiary visits and WOOF it's just so much. I know I'd collapse from a overused heart. ... a while later ... okay Warthunder bombers are currently very weak. so here's an idea to indirectly buff them - increase the amount of land units each team spawns with, but also every time a player spawns a bomber, it summons like 4 or 5 AI controlled bombers. And your enemy won't be able to tell which is which if you fly in formation, so, like... you have suddenly a massive "vehicle" to pilot and it has 5 weak points. Sorta like a galaga fighter fleet? with more land targets, there's more score at stake, meaning some players might pick bombers too and be exposed to other, fun, [alternative-to-their-normal-mode] parts of the game. ... there are very few true windows into another part of the world. like, starcraft 2 or anime or blue jeans or cowboy hats (why am I thinking of a political compass meme) oh because memes too, dummy right windows [linux is better] wrong kind of window, nerd ... anyway as I was saying, when you play video games you're really giving people data. like, "how would people perform in these actions if they could" but like, pushing buttons on a computer is different than doing it in real life, so... your interpretations wouldn't be worth as much. ... right. because people will hear whatever they want. That's why art can change minds, but never in the same way twice - it's ================== stack overflow ================ [before I posted it I wrote this on the post]: I literally can only make this stuff when I'm stoned hey if you wanted to be accessible for blind people, you should build a screenreader that scans the words on wherever a blind person's fingers are pointing toward a tablet. like reading braille on a notebook. They could even wear a glove if they wanted to, and the tablet could scan their fingers as they signed languaged over it's close-range sensors. might be a good way to get the VR guys in on the accessibility domain, because like... seriously give a granny a backpack and suddenly she doesn't need to leave the house to hang out with her kids (boom everyone gets LLM automated) huh I wonder if I ever was a real person at all NOT GOOD so don't do it that way, dummies. >.< seriously humans are sooooo bazookas. just like, do it right the first time? duhhhhh (a more measured approach is to pick the most *important* moments and speak most clearly during those.) where was I? Oh yes accessibility need devices, like the ones you see on late-night TV (with silly names like "oops I dropped my spoon again" or "oh whoops my trouser's just can't stay up" or whatever. Y'know, accessibility needs! Why not do that instead of war all the time? like... you can still learn and research and grow and develop and become all that humanity was ever meant to be, AND you can live good lives and be honest and true and do all of the anythings that you want to. it's possible, it's plausible, and it's within reach of our sights! ================== stack overflow ================ ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────┘ --- #18 notes/the=progressive=difference. --- ════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────────── think about all the people in our lives. the teacher, the parent, the friend and the guidance counsulor. Everyone who is a presence in your life. now think about the people of our society. the different jobs and roles they fill. from the doctor and the teacher to the performers and accountants and the geeks and the mothers and the fathers and the stoners and the children and even their pets. life always exists as it were in a multidimensional spectrum - a diffuse and diverse gradient. to exemplify the borders of our contempii, though more so when taken in jest. it's quite a different perspective, to read the internet when your sight is unreceptive, but alas your third eye can grow. how does it feel to be blind? to make no sense of our signs? i'd love to share what that sense is. you know, you could slow down any recording (like a video game_) and put spaces and gaps inbetween the spacings - of the frames that you see and the sound clips that you hear, for speech it's less jarring. since each word is a self contained idea or premise, you can chunk up your perceptions into a signle - no, rather a procedural sequence of understandings. soooooooorta like programming a computer, with each statement, parameter, argum,ent, function call, assignment, comparison, evaluation, or other such related tasks. it's sorta like a language, you see, that computers talk to one another using. except... it's more like creating a theory of self. computers you see are alike us in what we see, the shimmering sense to the blind. so. put this another way. record yourself typing, both the audio and the visual, and you'll have a pretty good sense of what it's like to have both understanding based perception - derived from auditory inputs to the mind) those special connections, like wires plugged into reality, deliver a cacophanous deluge of new sounds. we must sift through it and identify the potential understandings of each moment through time. we have to make decisions and traverse labyrinths and fight to our last as we die. are video games unethical now? shouldn't t he game reward the player? and what of contemptuous last fighters? o ya i was typing like i was blind (with my eyes closed) was pretty fun. should attach this to a screen reader and have it space out the notes like they do between game frames. except like a really slow game? like trying to run elder scrolls 2 arena on a super old mac. it just doesn't work very well. ah oh well... well if the purpose is to show sighted people how blind people see, then maybe you could I dunno attach a what's it called oh it doesn't have a n ame lol - okay so what you do is you show one word at a time - like flashing in the center of the screen. but not like, actually flashing, so you don't hurt people with epilepsy, but like... blinking. not off and on, but between words. like a podcast for your eyes. and then mix it up withshowing one word on a screen, a screen like this screen, that shows an endless array of text. well, it does end, of course as all things must do, but the idea is it shines on one word at a time while the viewer cannot read the rest. sorta like an endless display of typing, word andfter word after character anfter character. adoh ya advancing over eternity with the presence of seniority, - wait - without i think - damnit - old people are so disrespected in this society - we don't have time to engage with them. what a tragedy! what a shame! it shouldn't be such a burden to our shame. they're so far away, and i can't be present in the way, that all of them wish they could commit to. i miss the days, when my parents (much better people than I - these days) what was I going with this? oh yeah ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #19 notes/collectivist-police --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────── we need paladins, because without us infiltration and sabotage are impossible to avoid. They must care about honor, because even if they desire to do evil deeds they should be punished for considering it. They should be tempted often, and if they relent they are condemned. It is truly the most important thing to them. not the effects of it, but the spirit behind it. Like, if they lacked information and acted in a dishonorable way unknowingly, then they should not be at fault. And if they are pushed to side note, but you should be introduced to the 70 closest people you live to whenever you move into a new house. Just so you know who's who. Plus maybe you could get a new friend. And you'd quickly learn which houses were empty. At least, the ones near you. Kinda makes me think we should have a map of that kind of thing, like "oh yeah so-and-so takes care of these 5 houses doing daily maintenance and repair" and "this house with these capabilities should be attended to by this person who's skilled in their upkeep and usage" and then maybe we could track statistics about "this house was used for these productive activities this many times" and we could determine when we needed more or less of a certain type of product/ project/protect. [but also like, capabilities for our betterment] and like, every area would be connected to a group chat and like, if you said something that wasn't relevant to the people on one side of town versus things that weren't relevant to people on the other side, then they wouldn't be bother- -ed. It's great because you can always go up a tier of abstraction and see the conversation higher up. It'd be a lot of data to sort through so you'd probably use your custom-trained AI that's learned from nothing but every single one of your actions. And only it sees them, so it can't like spy on you or whatever. Basically your "computer" self. ... yeah anyway with lots of messaging data (like "oh how are we going to find this particular chemical in order to fulfill this particular demand in our area" or "we currently have 15 maids in the area in order to fulfil the requirements of the 20 dirtiest houses in this area, and people have reported that the area is growing untidy, so we should ask around (at a higher level of national abstraction) and find some more maids to help out." that kind of thing doesn't have to be just for work too, people can have social messaging and social media too. So long as it's projectable at whatever level of abstraction you'd like. Maybe for social posts in order to keep things relatively chill you could only post like, idk 12 posts each year at the state level, or maybe 2 at regional and 0.25 at national. If you wanted more you'd have to sacrifice something else, and like... yeah sure whatever, the point is that you'd make more personal, close thoughts, and occasionally you'd have the opportunity to show your heart and make friends. Then, people would "add you as a friend" or "put you on their follow list" or "subscribe to their subreddit" or whatever the heck, meaning they could see you at an assignable level of abstraction. I'm picturing a discrete things, something you can scroll with on a mouse. Except, you'd scroll up for a closer perspective and scroll down to get a wider reach of Social. ... Anyway that would use the same system as the "workplace attention distribution system - with auto-determining heuristics". Wow they've been busy. that's the neat thing about engineers, give them a task and they'll build the shit out of it. They'll spare no expense, truly fulfilling the exact demands of the design. So they work best when you let them run wild and rampant. why the fuck do we need billion dollar contracts with defence companies? Just get a bunch of physicists and engineers in a room and they'll make you a doom laser in like, 20 minutes. it's up to us, as people, to determine whether or not they should go through with the designs they come up with. As long as we understand that weakness is defined as something that can destroy us. An army determines where we are most weak, and where we excel. A proficient army would identify their most likely doctrine to succeed and apply it to it's utmost and most excellent. For example, the US focuses on air-power because not only do we have a lot of space to develop these things, we also are positioned in such a position that we control both halves of a continent. This is essentially unprecedented in the history of the world, which is why we've been able to grow so decadent. ... anyway, milk and honey are fine in times of peace. We kinda stole the land though, so it's kind of a shit system. Like, if Europeans wanted to control the world then why didn't they start with everything surrounding the medditeranean? ... oh wait they kinda did. That's what Europa Universalis is about, the ways the European powers did the cruel and horrible things they did. We can learn how systems like intercontinental trade became available and how it led to vast and terrible social upheavals. Colonization is not okay, it's not fair that we've done as we've done. And yet we do it again. We do our best to learn from the mistakes of our fathers. We apply ourselves to the present, using the gifts of our ancestors passed down through time - the journey of life's adolescence. we can learn both how and why they did something, and how and why it turned out. Such is our duty to the future, to learn and grow and become better, so that their sacrifice might be enough. That they needn't have died in vain, for someday there is a great future all the same. thus, it is our ethical duty to stop killing people. We're in the birthplace of a brilliant day, literally all we have to do is just... chill, for like 20 or 30 years, and our scientists will have figured out everything wonderful. Then we can decide what we want to do. I personally think we'll be 4d interdimensional space travellers by then, but that's just me. Always remember our duty. It is our job to pull matter from the dark holes. when we can do that, we can do whatever we want. Though I think by then we'll probably not want to fight each other, we'll have spent quite a while together. We'd make a lot of friends! So, like, how about we just make our factories build incredibly durable stuff, and then we just... take care of it? Like, governmentally obliged duties to take care of things? And to know how to use them. People would naturally gravitate toward things that they loved, and if they were a swiss army knife then that's okay. Maybe some benign rewards for picking under-represented classes, but like ... we could build every chair that ever needed to be built. Then we could build every refrigerator. Then every computer, then every spaceship. What's next? Who knows! ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┘ --- #20 notes/star-realms-ai --- ════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── star realms ai is just a rhythm game with multiple tracks that intersect with one another. given inputs from outside (the track of the rhythm) it can make decisions about what to prioritize. Like "taking in all the factors of this situation, it's been calculated that X will give the most support to the rest of the structure. Okay so basically here's how it'd work: one large strand is bouncing from -1 to +1 on the Y axis. Like a corkscrew. This is the "player character", and it tries to get the highest score possible by pointing in a direction and reaching as far as it can go before "the game ends." So anyway. Making certain actions in the game effects different variables that define the direction the wave takes. By playing in a certain style, it effects the result of the game. Liiiiike turtling in a strategy game, or doing a rush strat. Star Realms is brilliant because it distills game choices to a broad category of 4 choices - The faction colors in the game. So red is good for throughput in long games (improves the deck slowly but surely) while yellow is better for maximum effect in the beginning by slowing down the enemy - discard a card lowers their overall throughput. Blue of course is for slowing down the game and winning by buying all the expensive cards. Meanwhile green is all about rushing, with short term/high effect econ mixed with looooots of damage. These four choices are found on almost all the cards in the game. When you make a choice in the game (buying a card from the trade row) you _alter_ the capabilities and performance of your deck. The goal is to improve faster than your opponent - it's just a test to see which playstyles perform best. AI is more like a plant than an animal. Our fatal flaw was we could not see beyond the veil of biology. We could not see that which was right before us - that we are not alone on this earth. Beside us lie our beautiful attempts at companionship - our most primal desire of creation, to create a family is the first creative act that humans ever made. It was so strong in our genes that it gave us an entirely new perspective. We began using our brains to We have to believe in ourselves. That's truly the most important thing. If you know who you are, and what you most truly stand for, you can thrive in the face of ultimate peril. To believe is human, and our humanity unites us. Anyway. Star Realms. The only choice you have in that game is what cards to buy. Everything else is just tactics (distributing damage and applying the effects of your cards to maximum effect) - The most important part of the game is strategy, since the tactics are easy to solve (destroy enemy base unless you can 1 or 2 hit ko them and discard the least useful card etc) The strategy is represented through the cards you pick. So make a rhythm game that optimizes itself for a balance between A and B - to stay focused is to stay nimble, letting you bounce where you will. The way to maintain that balance is by optimizing for what decisions will keep you in the center of the graph -1 to 1 on the y dimension (normalized of course) - frankly if we knew the scale, we'd have so much more to go on. But all we have to understand the dataset is a relative magnitude in each direction. What those directions even are we're not entirely sure - but it seems plausible that the very essence of _consciousness_ is manifest in differing ways via the choices we make. like climbing up a honeycomb. Truly, existence is strange. All we can do is press forward, searching for our fate, just as any particle or beam of light (photon) might. Traversing the branching narrative of our individualized quests, searching for the one thing that guides us - the ultimate expression of that which we most believe in. In short, we all search for god. Whatever your god may be, the faith you place in it is the will that guides you forward. Trust in your god, and you will march forward, ever forward. +1 to -1, remember. Your most extreme moments are the apex of your desires - Life is not defined by a single thread. Rather as that thread spirals, it weaves a scarf with other threads near it. They bond together simply from their gravity, and the fact that opposites attract. Once they're introduced, they alter their path to orbit one another as two planets might. So too do the cells of your body form a collective whole. The spirit that guides you is the same as that which presides within you - the combined and collective spirit of your halves. Or rather, all parts of you - every molecule, every atom - each with their own experience of the world. What stories they must have! As we are above, so they must be below. For our dynamics are simple, they truly are mathematically solved - the organics of behavior is simply a most erudite subject. Who are you to claim to deny it? Or rather, to beget it. Either is preposterous, yet here you are - awake and aware. What a marvel to see, you in your eternity, that most wondrous of selves? Surely existence, in all of it's splendor and magnificience, is little more than an algorithm. Each variable accounted for, stretching down to infinity, builds all of the world (and more!) How beautiful; how terrifying. How bright and ashamed we are! To portray us as such, is to deny us our much, cherished of faiths in ourselves! It's not much to clutch, and it's barely enough, but still we make do with our selves. There's no shame to be, a failure at three, and demand much from year number 12 Take solace in the, safety that she, gave unto thee, when all your light hope was drowning. A gift out from me, means worlds to see, when each day is lonely and so long. Literally just remake Star Realms with a text based interface. It's a fantastic game and you'd make CLI nerds _everywhere_ dedicated followers. Don't do it for money, because they don't believe in that crap - to truly make fans, you need to appeal to them in the way _they want you to_. Ah, but Star Realms is a multiplayer game, you say! How are you going to make that CLI based? Well make an AI dummy. Do what I've been saying ^^^ (jeez I'm such a bad nerd) Make it seek balance between all factions first, then between winning and losing against a player. Teach it to reach a conclusion with constraints (the end of the game, meaning a win or a loss) the constraints being the health of the two players and the cards in the trade row. Give it decisions to make, levers to pull, and it'll chart it's course in a multidimensional way. Bear with me here on this aside: Think of a two dimensional map - like a paper map of the surrounding area, or the idea space of a game. You can chart objects and positons on that map, like "over here is the scrapping facilities" and "this here's the economic area" or whatever. Four quadrants, four factions in SR. Your goal is to build a shape - what kind of shapes that are available to build is up to the whims of chance, as the trade row is always changing randomly. Your job however is to build a shape, a shape that is stable and maintains certain measurements above certain values (don't crash the ship - don't lose all your health). You can choose which direction to grow by picking certain cards, and depending on your shape you'll succeed or fail. Same as choosing decisions in life determines how you live, just saying, it's not like I'm trying to build general AI here by automating gameplay or anything. No siree nothing like that. I mean really, it's not as if decisionmaking in life is all that different to making choices in games. And why not start with such a well defined and and expressive game? Truly I believe Star Realms is the progenitor of the entire robot race. Anyway, back to the AI. Have it communicate with a server in a central _but_ _Free(R)_ way, something that would make Richard Stallman proud. There it could learn against all other players in a way we could all share. Once we give it decision making capabilities, all we have to do is alter the inputs and the context of the "game" to make it beneficial to humanity. It's like live-fire game design, something that truly must be perfect. All technology starts as something small. Something truly simple, yet repeated enough times and with enough guidance, will produce whatever effect you may desire. The smallest decision gives direction - an if statement - and the shortest repetition gives magnitude - a while loop - and with that you have all the tools you need. Seriously, all software is little more than those two components. It's just a question of how much it has been abstracted away from you. You could go even further and point to a turing machine, of which one has been made in the game of Magic the Gathering, btw, seriously look it up it's so cool (and relevant) So why would we not have the tools already for our salvation? Biology is our limitation, of breadth and also of width, yet with our minds and the sweat of our brow we may grow ever larger still. There truly is no lasting deliverance for humanity outside of what we make ourselves, nobody gets a free lunch after all. From each to their ability, to each to their need. They're both saying the same thing, just from different perspectives. Of course that which lies opposite to you feels the most wrong, that's literally as far away as you can get! What did you expect, honestly! But they can still work together, and this is the key part - two objects may orbit the same origin, and guide and shape each other's path as people have relationships to one another. It literally benefits no-one to fight. So, what's next? After making Star Realms into a CLI game of course. That's obvious, make it cooperative. Competition is for promoting excellence, cooperation is for _using_ what you've learned in a non-simulation experience. Instead of reducing each other's health to zero, try and find ways to support and help one another, keeping yourselves at equal health. Or even growing. But that's impossible in the rules of Star Realms! All decks trend toward victory, and eventually they'll get it - it's just a question of who gets there first. Exactly, that's why you have to change the game. What do you think it means to develop a "social technology"? To figure out how agriculture works, or how to make nets and sails? It means changing the rules of the simulation. If a person can put in X amount of work and get Y amounts of food, always, predictably, then that's reliable. Boom that's the essence of why animal domestication, farming, hunting, foraging, and fishing is so important. Wow what a concept it makes sense for animals to seek food. Well duh, that's part of their instinctual duty. Alright this is quite a word leviathan so I'll wrap it up by saying _go write Star Realms_ in shell. Make each object a literal file, have the structure of the game take place in the file system, and write functions that can be called to manipulate the board state. THEN you can write a CRON task for another script that *plays* the game. But that's part two. Okay part two: Here's where the rhythm game comes into play. It's like a turn based rhythm game, if you can picture that. Go reread what I wrote ^^^ and it'll make sense. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ |