=== ANCHOR POEM === ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────── @user-1165 I vote yes, because people don't like change. I think we need to build something that naturally evolves into communism - like for example prices that trend toward zero as production increases and waste decreases, or community structures that naturally build solidarity through their structure, form, and functions rather than through voluntary effort like a union. Because not only do people not like change, they're also generally lazy, typically preferring to be home eating sandwiches with their dog and watching TV than at work discussing labor conditions. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┘ === SIMILARITY RANKED === --- #1 fediverse/2713 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────── if you aren't organized enough to protect your commanders, then you don't deserve leaders. build the structure first. build it on honesty and trust and dedication toward a goal. then build the necessary adaptations as you encounter problems, trying vaguely to head in a particular direction, and eventually you'll become self-sustaining. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────┘ --- #2 fediverse/5350 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────── honestly we should be building cities in the most boring locations, not the most beautiful. like below the crust. or space. the surface is a pleasuredome, why waste it on scrubland and turf? ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────┘ --- #3 messages/404 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────── They don't build toll roads to abstract taxes. They build them to keep track of where you're going. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┘ --- #4 fediverse/2701 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────── @user-1165 @user-1325 I find that people often miss the distinction between "personal" property and "means of production" style property. it's rarely the implementations that people dismiss - once they understand the meaning of the words used, they typically find that they agree with everything that communists say. so the best way to bring people to your side is to explain exactly what the terms mean and then see what they build with it. Often it'll be similar to communism, and if not you can correct them and explain why, practically, their idea wouldn't work as well as XYZ thing ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────┘ --- #5 fediverse/4566 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────── ┌────────────────────────┐ │ CW: politics-mentioned │ └────────────────────────┘ I want modern society without capitalism. Most people do, which is why no matter how awesome our proto-post-capitalistic anarchic socialist paradise is, there's always going to be people who want to go to work and watch TV. call me fucking crazy but they should be allowed to live as they please? So what if they're beguiled, so what if they are deceived? We can take our time to show them how much better things can be, but also... they like modern society as it is, and so I reckon someone should fight for them to be able to live as they please. Just... without billionaires and endless layers of bullshit micro-managerial jobs and paperwork pushing bureaucratic whatever time wasting jobs. modern society without capitalism can look like plain old capitalism, just without the oppression. Without the coercion. all I'm saying is that nobody's gonna fight for a healthcare CEO because they're scum. They're scum because they oppress. oops politics-mentioned brb I personally want communes + love ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┘ --- #6 fediverse/6365 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───── if you want people to build community, first get them to like the community. --- the world needs more thespians. Sing the song of your heart and no-one will ever neglect you. --- why are you so worried about your art? everything you touch turns to gold. --- I've learned more from my friends than my [job/homelife/worsckool/churchvan/cultureromp] combined. What are we for but learning? --- kids can learn from kids. Teach the ones that love you, and they'll be followed by the rest. Especially if you focus on them. --- "I never knew how to swing an axe until I scraped a knee on a log that was hollow. Until then I had been chef-knife chopping with it, with the head for a handle." --- ... omg what does that even mean why are you so weird ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────┘ --- #7 fediverse/434 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────── @user-324 @user-325 @user-326 thus enters the promise of technology: that we might solve the problems of bureaucracy once and for all by ever more effiency-aligning mechanical processes that produce effects which we desire - such as efficient allocation of medical resources such that all of humanity is protected from the ravages of pain and the incongruencies of our nature. Alas, that we should only conceive of success through the lens of profit. Perhaps another design is in order? (oh yeah also people who are in control are worried that we, like all other examples of natural entities, might immediately proceed to breed beyond the capability to cater to the needs of said entity (such as "to feed" and medical resources) and therefore might overburden (and therefore destroy) said system which allows for their sustenance and initial creation. To this I say... Yeah probs, what should we do about it?) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #8 messages/483 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────── "hey listen! Do this thing to hurt me! Build the infrastructure to do it so that you can use it on people who deserve it!" ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────┘ --- #9 fediverse_boost/5523 --- ◀─╔═════════════════════════════[BOOST]══════════════════════════════────────────╗ ║ ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ ║ ║ │ if communist revolution means the self-organization of the worldwide working class, then the goal of communism means the self-organization of the worldwide human species. │ ║ ║ └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ ║ ╠─────────┐ ┌───────────╣ ║ similar │ chronological │ different ║ ╚═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────┴───────╝─▶ --- #10 fediverse/1234 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────── @user-883 kinda makes me think we should make our own capitalism, with pickles and healthcare actually screw the capitalism let's just take care of each other ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────┘ --- #11 fediverse/3756 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────── ┌──────────────────────┐ │ CW: LLM-mentioned │ └──────────────────────┘ @user-1071 I have plenty of things made, but none of it organized : ( Kinda makes me wish I could like... train an LLM on my social media posts and use it programmatically somehow to help me organize my stuff into different categories according to what kind of topic or style they were written in. Hmmm......... There's no way I could do it, I mean, there's no way I could organize and edit my stuff, but with the help of a computer I might. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────┘ --- #12 fediverse/4010 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: pol │ │ ║ └──────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ I think that the best design for cities is for them to act as massive utility │ ║ deployment stations. │ ║ │ ║ like... "we have all these people who can do all these wonderful jobs, what │ ║ should we work on next?" rather than "my company wants me at my work-home at │ ║ 8am sharp and I don't get a pension" │ ║ │ ║ there's no such thing as a revolution that does not inspire. and aspirations │ ║ are human and natural. therefore there must be some kernel of truth to any │ ║ social movement. │ ║ │ ║ However, much effort has been spent on making them sway. Hence, why nothing │ ║ ever gets done - because leaders naturally emerge, and people follow them. But │ ║ those leaders lead them astray, and they find themselves in situations like │ ║ this one - where the people have never felt less represented. │ ║ │ ║ I mean sure, yeah, they've felt more oppressed. And it's true that things are │ ║ generally always getting better... │ ║ │ ║ so why should we always assume for the worst? │ ║ │ ║ We're making progress with technology - can't we just put our warries on hold? │ ║ Seriously just... be chill │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────┴──────────┘ --- #13 fediverse/4937 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────── ┌──────────────────────┐ │ CW: re: Rare nyt win │ └──────────────────────┘ @user-1074 yeah, workin' on it... building "community" whatever that means seems to be important enough to people that they'd consider it necessary prior to any "hot" action which, like, yeah, I get, but what they don't know is that community springs up naturally in the presence of shared experience. And if people are suddenly tasked with something then they're gonna make friends. They're gonna draw allegiances. Basically every alignment we make now is useless because the whole point is to force people to govern themselves. ... why won't you take your liberty, liberals? where's your spirit? oh yeah you want community first. Right. workin' on it... ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────┘ --- #14 fediverse/462 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────── I don't care about capitalism. You know what's more interesting than bringing value to shareholders? How I'm going to clean this floor that I drunkenly spilled beer upon with only 2 paper towels and 0.1ml of bleach. How I'm going to feed the 36 people who are coming to this social event tomorrow that I've only sorta planned for and that I have enough groceries for, but am not quite sure how to cook everything in a way that is delicious and accessible. how I'm going to climb this mountain on only 2 eggs and a tiny bowl of hashbrowns even though I promised my friend I'd be strong and that we'd reach the top because that way we'd be able to ============= stack overflow ===== ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #15 fediverse/3575 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────── ┌───────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: re: leftist "talk to ur neighbours" thing │ └───────────────────────────────────────────────┘ @user-1567 that's totally fine, a fish does not do well in a tree, and so too does a leftist not do well in an environment without the potential for stable bonds. Essentially all you'd be able to do is "hey leftism right?" "oh yes I also leftism" "neat" which isn't very productive. I also live in an environment like that. I do my best to identify people who stay, because in my experience there are often people who stay. I do this by walking around the neighborhood when I can, making up excuses to walk to the dumpster or mailbox at random hours, riding my bike around the area, using the communal spaces like gyms, swimming pools, and picnic tables, and sitting in my hammock on my porch lazily noting people who walk past. People who stay will tend to remain in your mind the more times you see them. They are better people to talk to than the renters who disappear after 3 months or whatever. I don't always do all that stuff at once. I take breaks. I do one at a time. etc ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────┘ --- #16 messages/395 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────── minds are not algorithms, they're soup community is made by introducing people to one another. like stitching together a weave pattern in the tapestry of life. (3 dimensional though, because it exists in our hearts and minds - this thing called society) kind of guy who says he's going on work trips but actually goes on vacation (because work is his life, it's where he derives vigor - the family is the difficult part.) yeah those kind of guys shouldn't be married tbh. They're just gonna take vigor from her heart. engineers need guidance sometimes, which is why they shouldn't be given no oversight. they can design whatever they want, but like here's what people need, so they should consider working on those. but, y'know, checks and balances, so what would the engineers be most open to sacrificing for that trust? perhaps... funding? the quartermasters are in charge of the "stuff", so they get to decide how it's produced. and used. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┘ --- #17 fediverse/3711 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────── ┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: food-mentioned-politics-capitalism-mentioned │ └──────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ what if instead of spending most of our paycheck on rent we spent most of it on food so that our food could be higher quality "but then people will starve because they can't afford food" okay how about we make food free and tax it "but then people will be fed by MY tax dollars and what if I don't want to use the services that the tax dollars are paying for" oh you don't want to eat, do you? or do you just not want THEM to eat? I hope leopards eat your face ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────┘ --- #18 fediverse/5246 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────── lol I spent half an hour holding a trowel and then I designed a new type of digging instrument and they want me to work a job /eyeroll /stickey-outey-tonguey-face/pics/all/total/* -ffvagrnbeexey --no-menus 14 ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────┘ --- #19 messages/527 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────── could give us some experience organizing small, short-term projects to accomplish specific goals and tasks in an ad-hoc way that relied less upon procedure and more on "I think so-and-so knows something about that, they were looking into those files and posted a breakdown of how they work yesterday" ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────┘ --- #20 fediverse/6278 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────── @user-1429 do something fun and hard like walk to seattle or install linux on a toaster or write happy notes on post-its and leave them in public places or make art and leave it in a public place or~ ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────┘ |