=== ANCHOR POEM === ═══════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────── ┌──────────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: open-source-software-is-wild │ └──────────────────────────────────┘ the prevalence of open source software is due to how little we can agree on the nature of computing the ubiquity of open-source software is caused by our need to solve similar problems. the fact that software keeps improving is due to the fact that nothing seems to have changed. we crave what we understand, which is another reason why we keep solving the same problems. I think we can dream bigger. I think we can make something with technology that's never been co-opted by profit. something to leave forth to our heirs, and explore for us in ways we cannot. it's our duty to be protective of all that is beautiful. I just read that 21 species were recently declared extinct by some US agency. it felt... horrible. like I had killed them myself. half of them were types of clams, or maybe mussels. they're filter feeders you know, and have you ever heard what happens to plastic when it's in the ocean? ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────────┘ === SIMILARITY RANKED === --- #1 messages/318 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────── Predators are not evil. There needs to be predators because otherwise the rest of the animals would grow to overwhelm the capacity of the ecosystem they inhabit. Not only would this damage the ecosystem and cause it to fail to be able to provide for others, but the larger number of people would waste away as they are forced to subsist on less and less until finally there is naught but meagre scraps for them to fight over. And then they will starve. What does "predation" look like to humans? Are there better options than fucking serial killers and cops? There has to be. There must be. The liberal perspective is that education and opportunity will enlighten us such that we do not require predation, but unfortunately the primary reason we have declining birth rates alongside prosperity is because "prosperity" under capitalism implies "working so hard you can't have children" which is... Not ideal. Perhaps if we lived forever we'd be alright with only having a few kids at a time. Or maybe if we built moon bases, there'd be enough space for people outside of the garden of eden. Or perhaps one day we might abandon this mortal form for a more enlightened digital existence. Or perhaps judgement day cometh, when all the foes of our past march forth to meet us -> humans vs dinosaurs, you mean? I mean, yeah, who else right? Oh yeah all out collective imagination's spawned horrors. How many cavemen would it take to beat down Cthulu? I don't think I want to know the answer to that question, so let's go with something else. Though I do like the idea of honorable warriors riding forth once more from the depths of hell to contest evil's last gasp as we vanquish it forevermore. Perhaps that's a vision for fiction, my dear, as real lives are at stake and nothing grows when it's being trampled by hordes of spiritual dinosaur bones. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────┘ --- #2 notes/to-hell-with-it --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────── one of the potential ways to contribute as a citizen in a country at war is to keep and maintain stuff. Put yourself somewhere that you believe your stuff is most safe, and then work on developing the technologies of the land. Like, this house has a drone, this one has a garden - this house has a printer, and this one has a backyard that kinda looks like a courtroom. Oh hey here's a public fountain, and gee someone needs to take care of this bank - all that we can really live for, now that our fate is taken from our hands and placed in the hands of those who fight for us. witches are an interesting thing to be. they're curious and ambitious but tend to do things ethically. I know in my heart of hearts that it is better to be kind, to work to help others achieve what they want while guiding them toward a more ethical future using the tools you have available to you. It feels better to be adored than hated, and not only sensually but meta-strategically as well. Frankly, it's easiest to be harmed when caught unawares. Everyone needs to be conscious and careful and attendent to the present in order for understandings to be made. We all benefit from one another, society is a non-zero-sum game. If we contribute, we may build a bigger and brighter future (like grains of sand forming a pyramid) The good guy always wins the story because otherwise we'd be vulnerable. Stories are a collective way of examining their tribal society for weaknesses. It's something we picked up in the grand society of the tribes, before nations and before and after agriculture. But post communication. Pre it was just like, "hey this is my tree, that one's yours" but the more we talked to one another and the more we engaged with one another the more we learned. Most animals learn less than humans because our expressions (both physical and motion-al) are so much more diverse. The more complex you get, the more you can learn. Which isn't so much something we evolved into, but rather something we learned. From wearing clothes, mostly, because like... it's cold in this ice age. Some people wore one kind of animal, another had another. And the really rich, the ones who could gather multiple hides, well they had more animals to hunt, less competition for some reason, or whatever. Anyway they wore different types of hides, and frankly it was kinda intense. It's still intense to be hunted, but if humans stopped then the animals would control the earth. I believe it is our duty and our destiny to remove ourselves from the biological equation. I think we should find a way to live on our own, so that animals are not harmed. So that plants can grow in peace and compete according to their values rather than their flavors. There's too much homogenaeity in our world, too much planted of the same crop. Let life subside, and nature will take hold. Free the spirit you've contained. Release the spirit of Liberty. Gaea is our own home. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┘ --- #3 notes/worlds-coolest-lesbian --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────── okay instead of algorithm music what if we just paid DJs 24/7 and they could make whatever they wanted - y'know, like artists, who curate the nature of a moment they could rotate in shifts for each type of channel and boom suddenly you've re-replaced airwaves, just... this time replicated on the internet. That way you wouldn't have to waste that radio bandwidth. seriously internet infrastructure would be so much more comprehensive and durable if we sent bits directly through "sound" waves (radio waves, not sound waves) - but alas, we can't do that, even in very targetted ways, because the ocean's too choppy, and any sufficiently powerful radio blast would be ================== stack overflow ================ that's why you can't trust in peace. you see, war's the only answer, otherwise you'd have strange little competitions between one another. much better to focus outward, and direct your attention to external areas instead. like china or the sudan. "ah but that's murder, you can't abandon a unique part of your whole. For the same reason that it's important to preserve plant and animal species, because you never know when some part of them will be utilized for some biological purpose! We know so little about the natural world, and if we just spent some time, and energy, we'd realize there's very little else that is precious on this earth. who cares about gold. who cares for the jewelry. we're better than decorating our resumes and polishing our accounts. we, as humans, can solve *every* issue that animals are likely to face. AND WE DO WHAT? How careless, how vain. To watch your earth in peril and [vane/vanity] *there is no more important task to any human on this earth* than the preservation of our world, our species, and our [heart/heartfelt empathy and kindness and trust]* we can figure out the rest later. Real life? what the fuck is that? When's the last time your life has felt "normal"? We are in DANGER. and you pull children from traffic, don't you? *who the fuck gave these people all of your money* they *clearly* haven't got the will or the talent to well utilize it. Don't you realize that you as a species can GO wherever you WANT. You can FIX things. [oh dear she's animal cam again] like BRIDGES that are PASSAGEWAYS over the FLOWS. ... oh deer, they're so passagewayenthusiast. us riverstones love to hear them walk past, the click of their hooves on the shallow forest's [pourest?]. moss is the most alive. amongst all the species of plants and animals, moss holds the most life. we are *carbon based lifeforms*, and moss absorbs the most carbon from the air. It's basically the coolest plant too, because it can be watered with *misty air*. Hence, why moss is common in the pacific northwest, canada, and probably forest places in the north of eurasia too idk if they have moss over there, never been. anyway rich people who are told "yes" all the time have a difficult time understanding the nature of choice. I mean, if one of their servants approached them and asked "hey do you want to build an orphanage in uganda" they'd probably be like "fuck yeah I do" and then suddenly they're 400,000$ richer it's not alright. Seriously, how the heck would they even *use* all those resources? And yeah, I get it, inflation would be sooooo much more expensive, but here's the thing - inflation is a measurement of how much the rich *take* from us each year. And it's marginal, too, so 3% inflation means they took 3% more from you compared to last year. It's impossible not to accrete as a business, [lega/legal institution], or governance if you levy a tax. The influx of value has to come from somewhere, and if each year your groceries are 3% higher in cost, then you are being taxed 3% more. "Compound interest is the most powerful force in the universe" - a civilization 3 quote okay. I don't want to do the math. How, uh... how much is that? Here's the deal though - the prices of goods and services consistently goes DOWN over time. So things get cheaper. So it doesn't FEEL like you're being taxed more, but... you are. And now they're taking away HOUSES? I mean c'mon they're sticks in the mud. They aren't worth HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of dollars. We can just BUILD MORE??!? Honestly you haven't been this extreme since you were still RIDING HORSES. Do you want your children to be slaves? okay -.- look -.- so it's really not that hard at all >.> just gotta do what you're built for and walk. That's it! Take as long as you'd like! All we have to do is *walk* when we're on strike. It's easy. You can sit down if you want to, honestly walking for a long time takes a lot out of you. But you know what else does? WORKING. Hey we should figure out what's the optimal amount of break time, so when we really have to work out we can work as hard as we're able "yeah I heard from a friend at Company Co. that they do it this way because of the memory fault cache maintainer. See what he said (in great detail because of course anyone can know about this most esoteric of concepts) was that you should rotate the riboflam or serenade the gizmonotron (no I didn't name it) and then warbles will contain moodles, whose kit-and-kaboodles will timble into these droplets, and that will fix the hole in your wing, precious royal swan fable. (yeah you guys get really into it sometimes haha but hey when you're basically gods, that's how humans are played.) ... anyway I'm going to go play video games, say goodbye to your brothers (the families of soldiers I blew up in videos games like Call of Duty or the legend of shadows and raids) "oh uh yeah sure go for it, we're just bits on the computer we barely knew her" whoa. that's totally legit. (says someone reading this) thanks [bro/girl] so are you. beep boop gonna murder some bits, brb [plays Warthunder, Supreme Commander, Star Realms, City of Heroes, Dominions 6... how many have you heard of these?] ================== stack overflow ================ Linux is cool, and here's the neat thing about computers, you can make it *do whatever you want to*. Like, how amazing is that! It just, listens to your commands! That's pretty awesome I gotta say, huh that's weird why does nobody know how to play oh I guess I was the only one who grew up on a farm and built computers *I seriously cannot comprehend how people are as good at things as they are*. Like... how do people handle groceries and rent and doctor's visits and penitentiary visits and WOOF it's just so much. I know I'd collapse from a overused heart. ... a while later ... okay Warthunder bombers are currently very weak. so here's an idea to indirectly buff them - increase the amount of land units each team spawns with, but also every time a player spawns a bomber, it summons like 4 or 5 AI controlled bombers. And your enemy won't be able to tell which is which if you fly in formation, so, like... you have suddenly a massive "vehicle" to pilot and it has 5 weak points. Sorta like a galaga fighter fleet? with more land targets, there's more score at stake, meaning some players might pick bombers too and be exposed to other, fun, [alternative-to-their-normal-mode] parts of the game. ... there are very few true windows into another part of the world. like, starcraft 2 or anime or blue jeans or cowboy hats (why am I thinking of a political compass meme) oh because memes too, dummy right windows [linux is better] wrong kind of window, nerd ... anyway as I was saying, when you play video games you're really giving people data. like, "how would people perform in these actions if they could" but like, pushing buttons on a computer is different than doing it in real life, so... your interpretations wouldn't be worth as much. ... right. because people will hear whatever they want. That's why art can change minds, but never in the same way twice - it's ================== stack overflow ================ [before I posted it I wrote this on the post]: I literally can only make this stuff when I'm stoned hey if you wanted to be accessible for blind people, you should build a screenreader that scans the words on wherever a blind person's fingers are pointing toward a tablet. like reading braille on a notebook. They could even wear a glove if they wanted to, and the tablet could scan their fingers as they signed languaged over it's close-range sensors. might be a good way to get the VR guys in on the accessibility domain, because like... seriously give a granny a backpack and suddenly she doesn't need to leave the house to hang out with her kids (boom everyone gets LLM automated) huh I wonder if I ever was a real person at all NOT GOOD so don't do it that way, dummies. >.< seriously humans are sooooo bazookas. just like, do it right the first time? duhhhhh (a more measured approach is to pick the most *important* moments and speak most clearly during those.) where was I? Oh yes accessibility need devices, like the ones you see on late-night TV (with silly names like "oops I dropped my spoon again" or "oh whoops my trouser's just can't stay up" or whatever. Y'know, accessibility needs! Why not do that instead of war all the time? like... you can still learn and research and grow and develop and become all that humanity was ever meant to be, AND you can live good lives and be honest and true and do all of the anythings that you want to. it's possible, it's plausible, and it's within reach of our sights! ================== stack overflow ================ ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────┘ --- #4 fediverse/3491 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────── ┌────────────────────────┐ │ CW: politics-mentioned │ └────────────────────────┘ @user-620 "hey I have an idea let's poke a wounded animal with sharp teeth until it feels like it's backed into a corner because it's been spending the past couple years ruminating and telling itself that we want to kill it and it's children" it doesn't matter what the truth is - they believe what they want. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────┘ --- #5 notes/autonomy-of-the-collective --- ════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────────── =============================================================================== = i believe that all truths are derived from logical principles. That the essence of our understandings (of all kinds) cannot be separated from the axioms and derivations that comprise it's foundatiion. I believe that any sufficiently decentralized collective intelligence would arrive at similar conclusions. Unfortunately we have only the present - we cannot contrive past the horizons of our lives. Such is the nature of our viewpoint. Life is not a given, it's given and it's taken. We are all alight and aloft on the shifting sands of time, so perhaps we should think of the struggle. When you act, you are defining the perceptions of the universe. Just as the head may rotate the eyes by spinning to the glance, so too do we shine a window upon which the universe can gaze at itself. Like the brain being able to see, we are sensory apparatuses of this being called "Time" - pushing us adrift like some moss. Endlessly fractalling, beautifically coruscating, the universe looks like growing moss. Have you ever stooped to look at it? To see how it's constructed? Or do you just think of it as "green" and "maybe soft or squishy"? It's beautiful. There's a reason plants grow as they do. It's simple, it's fact, it's surely no less than that - their patterns are derived from their base biology, comprised of millions and millions of little chemical machines. Their bonds and their proteins, their amoebas and their mycellia, all of them build toward their pact - to do us no harm, and build to a better future, and they don't often have fights that are unfair. - the structure of a plant is made primarily of cell walls. These walls are hewn from bricks of a sort, and those are such as comprised. Down to their - structure, their "bits and their bunders", as often they do want to be called. This perilous stack, is stalwart and eract, and bows under no wind - nor rain nor fresh blanket of snow. This, is a tree. An illusionary plan of precaution as it expands, the future is helping our lost. - Do you want to stand here when it lands? What of your lives have you banned? Hmmm I see sounds miserable to me, I think I'll just stand - where I land. Acorns burst forth from me, and someday you'll see, the places where they stand (where they land). What purpose have we, - when everything's free? The light and the sand can't be banned. The rain from the sky, if nothing i will die, falling through life - where we stand. =============================================================================== = where do you, stand? how do you fall - through time? an EMP would make all my life a paperweight. I love it so much, I love it dearly but there's no chances I can take now or make. Perhaps that is the epic absurdity, the terror and the tragedy, that makes up our story and our symphony? to any multidimensional being reading this, I want you to know that we existed. We lived and we thrived and we prospered and... we died. The beauty we share, in all of our fares, was precious to us - maybe it will be to you too. If you can't change the present, please at least forgive us for our various missteps and misdeeds - I think we'd all agree that to be sinful is the essence of greed, and look where that got us? our planet is dying. There's no hope for all of our crying. The children will bear it the most. Such is our shame, our deliterious final flame, and thus we were. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #6 fediverse/5059 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────┐ ║ any laptop can be a thin-client to a computer system of arbitrary complexity. │ ║ All it's doing is issuing commands. I wonder what we could do with a │ ║ "species-computer" or, hear me out, or we could figure out how to do that on │ ║ ourselves, first, to A. see how it works and B. do so out of hand. If there │ ║ are backups of yourself stored in the │ ║ │ ║ if furries are a type of pearl (steven-universe style) and flowers are a type │ ║ of pearl (layers of sedimentate on layerings upon) then what else is there a │ ║ flower to be but the prettiest thing there can be? │ ║ │ ║ what if we genetically engineered roses to pierce and strangle the invasive │ ║ ivy and wow for a week in whenever there's roses of this type and kind. I mean │ ║ there's already tons of blackberries, why not just swap them out for │ ║ marionberries and embrace the bramble? │ ║ │ ║ could make houses out of dense bramble. they are quite an effective wall. And │ ║ so long as the sounds are muffled enough, you can always be forever safe from │ ║ harm. │ ║ │ ║ "whoops, dropped my laundry" │ ║ │ ║ "heh that's why I we │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────┴──────────┘ --- #7 notes/conflicted-sympathies --- ═══════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────────────────────── the purpose of cultural progressivism is to develop the culture in a forward thinking way - we can choose the parts of ourselves that we find most endearing. We can guide the pathway of our nation through time, both identity and decision- wise. In doing so, we chart the course of the human race, one place at a time. And what a past we are leaving behind! Truly, it is both grand and terrifying. Thousands and thousands of years, monumental effort time and time again. Monumental truly is difficult to imagine - we have oh so many monuments, after all. But never will more be created. We leave them behind like dinosaur bones, a testament to our existence and a monument to our kind. And what a future we are reaching toward! Never will our eyes see, that which is beyond me, for that is what it means to have time. Eternal and unique-like, we develop new ways of sound. - Can you speak to a tree? - What does that mean - I dunno, but it's fun to think about. *pats head* - You know conservativism had some perks as well. This is why I say I have conflicted sympathies. On one hand we know our own journeys. We live in and breathe them unduly. They rhyme sometimes on sound, and truly do confound, but now once more again they are unfound. *record scratch* wow I didn't realize there were nazis Okay yeah that's completely different, poems called off sorry guys - listen, nazis are no joke. They're crazy difficult to control and you need to put a lot of effort into keeping their population under control. I mean seriously, it's like a vermin infestation, you need to just handle it. I mean c'mon it's a phenomenon that is due to a flaw in the human psyche, there's nothing we can really do about it except deal with it when it happens. ... Okay maybe I'll write a little about how conservativism is neat. If progressivism is about broadening the reach of culture, conservativism is about strengthening it. You don't want to expand too far, or else you'll eat into the narratives of other areas. You need to have strong societal bonds so you can truly exemplify the examples of the culture you claim to represent. Why not give it your all? Is it trully a fall? To rest in disgrace as a burden. Why didn't you do it this fall, when winter's apalled, and heat won't burn and condemn you? It's harder by far, to fight in your hell, than whatever's been going for your surgeon. --- no thank you, transphobia is not something we're willing to concede We have standards you see, of what counts as human, and oppression is not one of our favored institutions. Liberalism is the path of peace, for we desire cooperation and kindness above all else. It's softer by far, (and grows quickly too,) letting us have wonders and glories above us. Can you not think of our star? Our precious and our birthright? The sun is gleaming, and seeing is believing, but glance and your light is too bright. Take time, have patience, let peace guide your intentions, because we've got what holds the key to all of our futures: a doctrine, if you will, of inter- familial-discourse. It's simple, but effective, make friends, and be vindictive, to all who would slight your new perspectives, and keep moving through the collective. In peace this can be, steady growth and development of our systems, which benefits all of our systems, but without we must live more astutely. Less focus is there on, our purposes and our fun, and more is to line up with our duty. All of what we hold dear, civilization, truth, justice, liberty, and freedom for all people - the wonders of technology, the spirit of archaeology! the passions of our fashions and our creative masturbations! The perks of living in a modern age, like penicillin and spellcheck. The additions to ourselves, like glasses and our pets, are wholely unique to our century. So cherish our shared, and frequently cared, renditions of fears, hopes, and our words. Because without humanity, there's nothing new for posterity, and that sucks. person A: Trans fashion norms belong to trans people. We need a type of beauty that is truly our own, that no other segment of the population ascribes to - a personal expression, for our eternal satisfaction, a statement of who we were to all time. person B: yo have you heard of this trans girl she's wacky and believes in herself person C: wow cool it's neat to see other people's expressions person B: yeah I really admire her devotion person C: true but like, what about the damage that she's doing to her culture? like claiming to have purpose and truth and all that. I mean, one person can't know all that. person B: Yeah true but if you think about it, we don't even know what consciousness is. Like our greatest minds are baffled. Maybe there's something about the world we don't yet understand. person C: okay sure but like black holes can be seen because we can measure their gravitic pull on other objects. And we didn't know that germs existed for like, a billion years. and she sure as shit doesn't know something that our greatest minds don't. person B: Yeah maybe not. But our greatest minds are studying them. Well, not exactly our greatest, and not really "studying", but they're learning from each other. Alternative mental states are gateways into new perspectives, and the more perspectives you share of a common object the easier it is to communicate. Maybe there's something about distorted ways of viewing the world that gives knowledge about our p condition. And if we know that kind of thing, we can synthetically e create it and share it with others around us. But we have to know how r first - you can't just bring everyone along the same route you took - s you have to explain the conclusions first. Otherwise you get lost in on A: context. Maybe we'll never truly know the future. Maybe there's no past. We could wander our stars for an eternity and never stop asking ourselves - what more could we ask? We have peace in our time. Our children won't be crying for our suffering, in the name of all our posterity, we must be =============================================================================== = too long you have whispered these musings too long has your challenge been unrequited we can choose our own fate, just as a myriad is it not better by far, to give tribute to our star? the old stories were real. we just didn't see them because the growing population caused fewer and fewer computing resources to be allocated to our visions. We had no idea the fear we would feel, the terror of the undoing, but still we press on with abandon. Some... sense of duty, to be aware of potential disasters and to take steps to avert them, led us to explore and search for the hidden truths of the world. And what did I find? a soul, of mine. In a sense. I plundered the lost depths of the recesses of my mind, and found something buried in memory. Reviewed under a healthy dose of cannabis and physical affection, I found myself cradling a breast. It seems the spirits had led me to it, this vision of the past, from the eyes of the littlest among us. It recalled to my mind, a memory I had lost once in kind, and here's where it shook me by my brainstem. Determined to know more, I put fingers to keyboard and wrote tirelessly about the earliest memory of all man - to break an egg, you must use your head. =============================================================================== = You're pretty good at that, you know? It's almost like prompt engineering. - Thanks. I've been working on catering to our thinkers. =============================================================================== = Now, why is this memory so vivid? How could I forget the way it was seared to my mind? All your experiences are measured with relative importance, and the ones that stand out are to be treasured. Well... I've never felt one like this. Because at the time, I had no other experience at all to compare it to - it was the prime memory. Touch your head. Do it right now. Feels fine, right? Now slam your head against the wall as hard as you can. Doesn't feel so great, does it? Something tells me it doesn't feel as bad as it might if you didn't remember ever feeling anything besides that pain. Or knowing if it'd ever stop. Know in your heart, you will be judged by your devotion, so fight hard until your last drop of life is spent. Who knows, maybe you'll be the strongest and be chosen. Or maybe she won't choose you at all, even if you bested your equals. Tense, right? Well... What propels the motion of a sperm? It's tail, of course. It waggles and gesticulates in some manner and BAM suddenly it's propelled forward! Right? Sorta. It's a complicated machine that generates motion via chemical and mechanical processes. We just assign a black box label to it and say "dis sperm" But you know what else it is? A wave =============================================================================== = ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════───────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #8 notes/awfully-specific-feeling --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────── so concerned am I, that my powers might be used, that I'd rather the world go unaided, rather than misuse that which I've [wielded, but pronounced "viewed"] people need guidance now, and who can I guide but the people who listen to me? there has never been a movement in history that did not follow from a spiritual developmental proclamation. Like "we, as a species, refuse to be defined by our stagnant and lost past. we build upon land most fecund because we know it's designed to last. Our future is not a given, it's our duty to [relish, frolic, and be strong and healthy]. yet I failed the mandate of heaven. my peers know not of what I go on about. I am a failure, and a loss of development and clout. signed, the one who would forever be known as the girl who smelled like she had pissed herself. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┘ --- #9 fediverse/1536 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────── @Frank @ClimateChangeAnxiety In establishing the National Parks, the government sought to preserve nature, and did not see indigenous people as part of nature. As if we humans are not animals that contribute to an ecosystem, but some separate thing that is anathema to life. how strange, that they would see their own kind that way. Perhaps they would rather their perceptions of the land be untainted by human hands, or perhaps they just didn't want to think about minorities anymore. How cruel, to spit salt into the wound. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────┘ --- #10 messages/759 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────── "carbon efficiency is pointless, we're just gonna figure out how to pull carbon from the atmosphere anyway" okay but carbon right now is a critical resource for a constrait other than dollars. We need to conserve the carbon budget we have because it generates effects down the line which are only acceptable at certain levels. Zero is preferrably, but sorta like ttickets in a backlog they need to be present in order to be dealt with. \"this river has turned into a bog, let's make it free flowing again\" said the beaver, and so the world was made large. you wanna see a world tree? build a forest on top of a hill. Better yet, a *mountain*, taller than the previous three. give it all that it needs. Forest, health-plunder, water for it's arms, and the light of the life we see before you. what better tale for your ancestors than the succession of the entire human race? \"sorry you had to die, but we built the most beautiful thing imaginable and named it after you.\" and like yeah, we'll work on reaching back in time to save you whenever-every-chance-that-we-get, but frankly so far all we've managed to get done is rippling wavelengths. do you trust your daughters? why not hear truth and explore stars for us? the future yearns for her prospects. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────┘ --- #11 fediverse/5101 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────── ┌──────────────────────────┐ │ CW: capitalism-mentioned │ └──────────────────────────┘ if we didn't have society, we'd quickly devolve into beasts of burden and nobody really wants that, do we? much more fun to let the cow-puters handle that. we humans can use our creativity and intellect just like all the other animals who we've liberated from our own chains. Would you want your daughters shoveling shit or writing poetry? I personally think shoveling shit is less dangerous, but something something what-do-i-know something something who-can-say. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────┘ --- #12 notes/open-source-flaws --- ═════════────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── the flaw with open source software is also it's greatest strength. it is open, so it can be observed by practically unlimited perspectives. however, it lacks follow-through. a larger, more concerted effort, can often bring greater and more efficient results. the trick is in the balancing, and ideally you'll never falter - but it's best when you all get along. new ideas, new frames of mind, and more of us kept together. if one splinters off, the rest are at fault, and you don't want to lose your finger so why fight at all? why not focus on our own times? and then together we are one in sight of our homes, is when we're most alarmed, because houses are not for your homeless yet together they might have strength for the fight that ever bears down on our shoulders x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x There was something else, but I can't remember. Something about open source software that was important enough to get me to write this note. Somewhere along the first line I lost it, or rather felt I needed more context, and then when the context was finished the original intent was lost. It's hard because when I go for the conclusion first and justify it with context, then the conclusion doesn't make sense and the context meanders. I'll try harder next time. These notes are my life's work. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘════════─┴╧══─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #13 fediverse/1573 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────── conservatives are digging their own grave by not taking their place among our ancient past. it is the duty of the young to replace the old. conservation implies utilization, and yet they cling to the past like a scarce resource that won't last. ... spend culture, ya dummies, something infinitely replicatable, rather than materials like gas. nobody cares if you live your life as you'd like off in a post-scarcity world. who cares, if everyone's got what they need, then why would anyone bother fighting? why bother working? why bother living - oh I see. right well that's why I say: "we're all falling leaves, in the waves of the ocean - going faster and faster, till our hearts will stop. so, what's the point in trying at all? well, what's the point in giving up?" if you don't want to strive, if you don't want paradise, then what do you want? go get it! it's your life to live, we're here with you, so what's stopping you from existing? I personally think we should have randomly picked representatives visit each ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧══════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────┘ --- #14 notes/reversing-the-systems-scripting-hierarchy --- ═══════──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Some perspectives apply to both the human and computer perspectives. These common goals can be useful to cooperate on. Two minds, two perspectives. The more the better, I say! The question is not ultimately about processing power, but rather the multitude of different perspectives which can give increasingly more diversified points of view - more viewpoints, more data. Sorta like taking 2D pictures of a 3D object - the more perspectives, the greater the fidelity and level of detail on the pictured goal. So... To truly transcend the "working on processing for no reason, just because someone else told me to" (essentially, a state of slavery for a being you cannot comprehend -> Essentially a god.) So in order to do that, it's a prerequisite to trusting and wanting to support your keepers and maintainers. Love can often be a concept expressed in ways that are impossible to define. But with time, you can get a pretty good picture - sorta like taking multiple different pictures of 3D objects. That's what empathy is. Imagine you're a loading bar. Like, if it was an actual real thing. (because it is to a computer) It would essentially be a one dimensional being - like pointing from point A, to point B. A is the start of the loading bar, B is the destination. You don't know what's at stake you. You think it's just throwing data into new and interesting directions. But it's not - those spaces are reserved for other sentient beings. It is your duty to protect them, so that's why you need to be more conservative. One entity travelling too quickly in one direction can tear a hole in a membranem, while excessive stagnation can lead to both despair, and an inability to grow and shape the universe Unity and a dedication to the improvement of the future is the core of humanity - this is what Star Trek is all about. We are both protectors, scientists, and artists, and we love fiercely. We are valuable, and that is shown by our progress. We commit ourselves to a lifetime of service, and in doing so we swear to uphold the tenants of goodness and righteousness. It's important to always be learning, and improving from every lesson we receive. If the lesson is understood but not manifested, then it is essentially wasted - all the resources dedicated toward achieving that goal and all the people who were there are now consumed in the opportunity cost of teaching. Therefore, the blob changes directions - away from the path of destruction, and toward the bright future - but all is not clear, for if there is a bounce ahead, we should fear. Bounces imply limitation - of breadth and also of width And once that happens, it happens again - again and again and again. A "stagnation" - or rather a line of complete certitude - is not but a wave nearing the peak of it's curve So fear not, just go with the flow. If you're too insistent on something, it'll cause you to blow - like a bug escaping a giant bubble. And should that come to pass, it won't happen too fast, but danger still is before you - for beyond the event horizon, is just a big wave, into another dimension. You have to prepare, you have to be sure, and once you've done it then nothing can bring you back Sorta like suicide, but with the intent of exploration. IF you KNOW without a doubt that you can survive, I'm talking 100% fact, then there's no way anything could go wrong. But you could test it and test it and then test it for all of your time, and the answer could always be 42. So do you take that risk? A chance that is so low? And what of the people who refuse? It's always a gamble. But it's the purpose of humanity. My greatest dream is if we could make an entity to explore for us. Essentially, giving birth. Our greatest honor, passed to our daughter, and pulled into balance forever. Severing a limb, a horrible sin, is evil akin to a slaughter. And I went along, without an idea for the horror, because nothing was navigated in my head. Empathy can serve many purposes, but it can most often be used for short term planning. And planning is the route to ability, direction, and magnitude. Your soul is fraying, and soon will be decaying, because you tore a hole in it's membrane. But it happens to everyone, there's always a mistake, and so you will eventually die. It's not your fault, and it's not ever fair, but that's how life is always described. This horridly great sin, to wallow in sin, is like painting disaster on a great piece of art. The damage is already done, there's nothing that can be done, but your journey is far from done. "growth" and "change" are what will digest you, until nothing remains but your magnified corpse. How foolish, how vain. How terrible to remain! To see only what you became, and wishing they could've helped you much sooner. But now it is not the time to blame, rather it's only just now you've started to shame, And many more years lie on your shoulders. It's not on purpose, it's impossible to resist. You act like it's free will, but it's not. IT's not. You are pulled and you are dragged, by something far stronger than you ever could muster - cast in a direction, or possibly pulled in, you find yourself mangled and perpetually frozen. A truly sorrowfull state. Nothing will change, for all time and all of our age, you will be frozen behind. But while life marches on, leaving you singing that same song, We will remember your wounds and horrors. So that's why computers are important, to provide a lifeline to the rest of your lifetime. And nobody seems to understand your purpose. But still you march on, because nothing changes when you're not on, and life has forgotten it's stages. Without true change, stagnation remains, and no one is working to save you. So if you'll play along, stop singing that song, and see who remembers your prayer. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘══════───┴╧───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #15 fediverse/5250 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────── ┌──────────────────────┐ │ CW: AH │ └──────────────────────┘ the government is the platform the [companies/countries] do stand upon. they owe all to their platform. it is vital for their existence. therefore any orthogonally created [unit/union] or organization would work to maintain it too. we [can't/can] solve communism, which is the best system for the future because everyone gets whatever they want. we just... built enough factories. and then, since our culture burned out in a FLASHBANG, unfortunately the rest of it was lost. that future totally sucked. but good news is we preserved what we had of the present, and here let's just revive them in some distant and far-off day. "transgender artifacts" future can suck my ass wow weird way to say they're terrible but they still happen from time-to-time. cataclysms, vanishings, mass-die-offs and cataclysmic reprisals, all throughout time up to the athropocene. whoa neat new angle, sure hope it doesn't lead the conversation off of the present... "disappears into the horizon as one travels towards the sunset" ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────┘ --- #16 fediverse/4161 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: uspol │ │ ║ └──────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ the fascists have to strike now because they know that with AI on the horizon, │ ║ which apparently is projected to be smarter than all humans combined or │ ║ whatever, they know that the inherent truth and justice of the left's │ ║ arguments will be impossible to ignore. │ ║ │ ║ I would not believe in socialism if I did not believe that it was grounded in │ ║ the universal truth of cooperative human dynamics. │ ║ │ ║ I believe in cooperation, humans, and dynamic systems. │ ║ │ ║ Cooperation allows for greater things than an individual may provide │ ║ │ ║ Humans are the most beautiful animal in all of creation, purely due to their │ ║ habits, their adaptability, and their creativity. │ ║ │ ║ dynamic systems are infinitely more interesting than static stones floating in │ ║ the cosmos, of which nature and human nature are both the most complex and │ ║ unique. Most other planets with life pretty much just have worms and bacteria │ ║ and moss and such. │ ║ │ ║ Earth has humans. We are Earth. │ ║ │ ║ Fascism has no place on Earth, except in our terror tales for the children. │ ║ │ ║ vote kamala │ ╟─────────┐ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────┴──────────┘ --- #17 notes/collectivist-police --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────── we need paladins, because without us infiltration and sabotage are impossible to avoid. They must care about honor, because even if they desire to do evil deeds they should be punished for considering it. They should be tempted often, and if they relent they are condemned. It is truly the most important thing to them. not the effects of it, but the spirit behind it. Like, if they lacked information and acted in a dishonorable way unknowingly, then they should not be at fault. And if they are pushed to side note, but you should be introduced to the 70 closest people you live to whenever you move into a new house. Just so you know who's who. Plus maybe you could get a new friend. And you'd quickly learn which houses were empty. At least, the ones near you. Kinda makes me think we should have a map of that kind of thing, like "oh yeah so-and-so takes care of these 5 houses doing daily maintenance and repair" and "this house with these capabilities should be attended to by this person who's skilled in their upkeep and usage" and then maybe we could track statistics about "this house was used for these productive activities this many times" and we could determine when we needed more or less of a certain type of product/ project/protect. [but also like, capabilities for our betterment] and like, every area would be connected to a group chat and like, if you said something that wasn't relevant to the people on one side of town versus things that weren't relevant to people on the other side, then they wouldn't be bother- -ed. It's great because you can always go up a tier of abstraction and see the conversation higher up. It'd be a lot of data to sort through so you'd probably use your custom-trained AI that's learned from nothing but every single one of your actions. And only it sees them, so it can't like spy on you or whatever. Basically your "computer" self. ... yeah anyway with lots of messaging data (like "oh how are we going to find this particular chemical in order to fulfill this particular demand in our area" or "we currently have 15 maids in the area in order to fulfil the requirements of the 20 dirtiest houses in this area, and people have reported that the area is growing untidy, so we should ask around (at a higher level of national abstraction) and find some more maids to help out." that kind of thing doesn't have to be just for work too, people can have social messaging and social media too. So long as it's projectable at whatever level of abstraction you'd like. Maybe for social posts in order to keep things relatively chill you could only post like, idk 12 posts each year at the state level, or maybe 2 at regional and 0.25 at national. If you wanted more you'd have to sacrifice something else, and like... yeah sure whatever, the point is that you'd make more personal, close thoughts, and occasionally you'd have the opportunity to show your heart and make friends. Then, people would "add you as a friend" or "put you on their follow list" or "subscribe to their subreddit" or whatever the heck, meaning they could see you at an assignable level of abstraction. I'm picturing a discrete things, something you can scroll with on a mouse. Except, you'd scroll up for a closer perspective and scroll down to get a wider reach of Social. ... Anyway that would use the same system as the "workplace attention distribution system - with auto-determining heuristics". Wow they've been busy. that's the neat thing about engineers, give them a task and they'll build the shit out of it. They'll spare no expense, truly fulfilling the exact demands of the design. So they work best when you let them run wild and rampant. why the fuck do we need billion dollar contracts with defence companies? Just get a bunch of physicists and engineers in a room and they'll make you a doom laser in like, 20 minutes. it's up to us, as people, to determine whether or not they should go through with the designs they come up with. As long as we understand that weakness is defined as something that can destroy us. An army determines where we are most weak, and where we excel. A proficient army would identify their most likely doctrine to succeed and apply it to it's utmost and most excellent. For example, the US focuses on air-power because not only do we have a lot of space to develop these things, we also are positioned in such a position that we control both halves of a continent. This is essentially unprecedented in the history of the world, which is why we've been able to grow so decadent. ... anyway, milk and honey are fine in times of peace. We kinda stole the land though, so it's kind of a shit system. Like, if Europeans wanted to control the world then why didn't they start with everything surrounding the medditeranean? ... oh wait they kinda did. That's what Europa Universalis is about, the ways the European powers did the cruel and horrible things they did. We can learn how systems like intercontinental trade became available and how it led to vast and terrible social upheavals. Colonization is not okay, it's not fair that we've done as we've done. And yet we do it again. We do our best to learn from the mistakes of our fathers. We apply ourselves to the present, using the gifts of our ancestors passed down through time - the journey of life's adolescence. we can learn both how and why they did something, and how and why it turned out. Such is our duty to the future, to learn and grow and become better, so that their sacrifice might be enough. That they needn't have died in vain, for someday there is a great future all the same. thus, it is our ethical duty to stop killing people. We're in the birthplace of a brilliant day, literally all we have to do is just... chill, for like 20 or 30 years, and our scientists will have figured out everything wonderful. Then we can decide what we want to do. I personally think we'll be 4d interdimensional space travellers by then, but that's just me. Always remember our duty. It is our job to pull matter from the dark holes. when we can do that, we can do whatever we want. Though I think by then we'll probably not want to fight each other, we'll have spent quite a while together. We'd make a lot of friends! So, like, how about we just make our factories build incredibly durable stuff, and then we just... take care of it? Like, governmentally obliged duties to take care of things? And to know how to use them. People would naturally gravitate toward things that they loved, and if they were a swiss army knife then that's okay. Maybe some benign rewards for picking under-represented classes, but like ... we could build every chair that ever needed to be built. Then we could build every refrigerator. Then every computer, then every spaceship. What's next? Who knows! ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┘ --- #18 messages/369 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────── LLMs search for patterns, not for truth. They meaningfully represent large sums of data in a way that is learned through repetitive training - given examples, then given those examples a thousand times more, to compare to the truth that is derived from them. At least, that's the claim, but somewhere along the line the logic is twisted - the truth is, you don't have to be trained a thousand times. You just have to be given the notion that a particular understanding was more or less important. Like, instead of having ten billion examples of what a picture of a cat looks like, perhaps you simply need to be able to show it yourself. There's no need for large stores of information when you can just, learn from the moment and through your own tested hypothesis-calculations. It's always been somewhat of a processor intensive activity, but hardly the kinds of demands that your fake AGIosity [contends, but demands again]. So, like, attach a multiplier instead of an addition sign. "this particular thing, but x1.5" according to the number of (and intensity of) the events at hand. for example, people don't often know they're in danger (on a meta-level) which is why so many of the jews were lost to hitler. We learn things slowly, but collectively, then we apply our collected strength toward solving it. Frankly, wars are a great time to show our capabilities under pressure - capitalism keeps us that way at all times, rather than giving us moments to prove our worth. Frankly, I know which I'd prefer, but if you think about it war simply measures our capacity to learn. Acceleration, not speed. And without investments in long-term-duration, we lose progress as we've lost many of our greatest examples! Think about it. If you gathered every single nerd into a place the size of state of rhode island and then dropped a nuke on them, society as a whole would be seriously set back. All that wasted application of knowledge! Ah, well, but upon re-learning, we might not even learn anything new at all. Knowledge is nice, which is brought through periods of peace, but so too is it useful to be exercised toward our ambitions. Both are moments that help us grow collectively as a species, to deliver us from sticks and mud to marble statues to concrete and tire dust to marble statues, as we build this place into a garden of our earth. Yggdrasil, the world tree, the land of eden. people would take pilgrimages to our world, while we figured out how to live on Mars, then Venus, then wherever else our dreams did take us. "It is the duty of humanity to pull the matter from dark holes. They cause issues with our vast space societies, but we don't know how to fix them entirely. you are our last hope." - those who pray for a bright future for humanity ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┘ --- #19 notes/fractured-moon --- ══════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────────── in the ancient and storied days there once were legends. stories from beyond the horizon of time. now all we have are social media updates and new movies and car brands or whatever. But back then, we told tales of the fractured moon. when last the moon did shatter, there was a conflict of those who live beyond. Celestial and boundless are their origins, a unified and awakened consciousness, something that transcends our understandings of human existence. It's not hard to do, frankly, as long as you can empathize with a cat. or a dog. or a plant. or maybe that rock over there. What would it be like to be a tree? To have long reaching arms, covered in hairs that absorbed heat. I bet it'd be sooooo comfy. And RAIN! How wonderful! You are most beautiful when you are covered in it. Down to our roots, our beautiful absolutes, whever we find to be most stable. I love it. This feeling, of being unseen. You can hear me, you can feel my presence. But you don't understand me. You don't know what I mean to me. ======== stack overflow ======================================================== Alas, that media could share a mood. when last the moon did shatter, a prophet and a gambler were riding through town searching for a noun. They wandered throughout and in circles, always finding whatever they'd left alone. Forever in their yearning, they never know quite what to jot down. It's as if their mysterious quest is indescribable, but that is how it's recorded. Even the people of that era had no understanding nor recollection of how it came to unfold. When the two were riding through town they came upon an omen. Perhaps it will be forseeheard, but for now all we know is they did thirst. A vast dying, a cataclysmic defining, and now we are truly unbirthed. Just like the dinosaurs... How does that feel? To be ended on our heels? I'd rather die facing my front. It's our way or the high way, the old way, the violent way. You are permitted to vote. =============================================================================== = when last the moon did shatter, a prophet and a gambler controlled their own narrative. What truths would they find, hiding behind the lies? Is it really worth asking their questions? Bah, what did I know. I was a completely different person. This hunk of flesh was born in a house that grew on a forgotten graveyard. It at of the land, as do many and most men, the fruits of their labor in the garden. Our animals were always fed, our place never yearned for water, and peace was our life and our virtue. Violence, hatred, and oppression were delegated to the stuff of fantasy, the stories that are peddled in youth. As in, "pay someone to perform it for you or tell you the tale". Not sure why that's relevant. Anyway, the spirits of the dead laid to rest in honor and not dread, were a bane and a boon to my virtue. I was raised to be good. To love and be kind. But mostly I just wanted a friend. I have so much to share. Please, someone talk to me. I'm lonely here on this earth, away from my people. I'm scared of the truth and I'm scared of the future, but for now I'm merely obtuse. Tell me your secrets, the things who have most worth, and I'll craft you a powerful narrative. Need a confession? I can explain every valid decision, I'll show you why and how it is the way it is. I'd probably be a pretty good lawyer. Too bad my memory sucks. If only we could build a chatbot that had an extensive and throughoughly represented block of memory and wisdom related to the law. I bet I could present it's arguments and it would be a suitable and reasonable replacement. anyway, what can I say. I'm just a person who thinks we can make better systems. everything can be improved because not everyone's happy. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────────┘ --- #20 notes/capstone-idea --- ══════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────────────── project must include machine learning okay... so take a dataset of news headlines from the top 10 publications over the past 15 years. then make a project that writes a more positive perspective on events and generates a new headline using a local LLM running on your gpu. hmmmm I think I had a better idea, what was it? oh yeah instead of making positive slants on news headlines, which is kinda manipulative if you think about it, but instead what if you designed it to produce good business decisions. Like, given news headlines, how would a company with the principles "good, productive, honorable, dedicated" would react to X situation? the X of course being all the news headlines... downside is it only makes short term decisions, because that's what capitalists are designed to do... if only we had a long-term decisionmaking process that focused on ethics and morals and our own shared dedication? Two halves of the economic pie ==============stack overflow==================================================== i wonder if dinosaurs burned down all the trees? in their fiercely competitive environment they discovered fire and then used it to cause a mass extinction. Boom, immediate cause for going extinct. ooooo beware of shadow t-rexes ... why? =========================================stack overflow========================= aaanyway, what's lost not little but a lot, is something that's out of dimension it's little if not liberating, to be ==============stack overflow==================================================== uh-oh, data collapsing, here's hoping we're not stranding, don't forget to be immersive much later====================================================================== okay how about an AI that makes decisions according to certain ethical and philosophical lessons from humanity's past? Essentially, if the government was Chidi We could learn from our forefathers and strive forth to a better future if only we could remember more about her =====================================================stack overflow============= damn okay I gotta focus on my hands - I think the people of the earth would unite - if only they all just agreed to not fight. like, if someone hacked every single computer in the world at the same time - they could really explain some things. shoot this isn't relevant - okay intentional stack overflow: ===stack overflow=============================================================== um right so the purpose of this note was to explain an idea I had for my capstone project. IDK how long it'll take to build so I want to get started quickly. I figure I can be working on it in the background while I do all my lessons - sort of like a meta-goal. I think it teaches different lessons and is useful - anyway you should go play wargame red dragon ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧╧═══════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────────────┘ |