=== ANCHOR POEM === ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────── ┌──────────────────────┐ │ CW: unions-mentioned │ └──────────────────────┘ spies need a union. what if we collectivized the military [first] instead of the economy? they kinda already are, it's just... very hierarchical. can you imagine the president asking the army's union rep to bomb some country in (almost said israel because it rhymed, lol) the other half of the globe? that'd be silly they'd ask questions like "what stuff do you want bombed and why" and then they go back to their people and discuss it however they will, and then they come back and say "we will do as you command, for we can accomplish it within our means and we have decided it is strategic for us to do so." ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════────────┴───────────┘ === SIMILARITY RANKED === --- #1 image/img-8680 ---
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--- #2 fediverse/4898 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────── ┌────────────────────────┐ │ CW: politics-mentioned │ └────────────────────────┘ the last time we tried communism in any meaningful capacity, we drowned in paperwork. we have computers now. we can automate it. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────┴───────────┘ --- #3 fediverse/410 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────────── I wonder what would happen if a job hired every single applicant, no matter their skills, location, or experience? What wondrous tools could they create, and how many lives could they change for the better? ... oh wait that's communism, isn't it ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧══════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #4 fediverse/4033 --- ╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌────────────────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: war-mentioned-death-blood-guts │ │ ║ └────────────────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ now that we fight wars without peering into the eyes of our foes, our │ ║ observation equipment has the opportunity to lie to us. │ ║ │ ║ like, what if we just deepfaked ukrainian soldiers onto the targeting │ ║ computers of russian drones │ ║ │ ║ we could fight wars, observe the effect of our machinery, and burn metal, │ ║ plastic, and silicon (because apparently that's the best use for these things │ ║ ???) without harming a living soul │ ║ │ ║ seriously, stop with the gazas │ ║ │ ║ stop with war for the sake of testing equipment that is only designed for war │ ║ │ ║ it is no longer a necessity, now that we have more than enough to share. │ ║ │ ║ and that truly is the bane wielded by socialism - if everyone just... gave │ ║ away anything they had, suddenly there's no more reason to fight. And if │ ║ everyone stopped fighting, they're out of a job. │ ║ │ ║ can we just like... cancel all jobs, and then add them back in piece-by-piece? │ ║ "yes you're essential, doctors, nurses, firefighters, ambulance drivers, food │ ║ delivery trucks, electricity grid mainta │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩══════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #5 messages/555 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────── The biggest problem in my mind with socialism is that you could get all of the workers into a room before finding out that they don't like each other ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #6 messages/1115 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────── The Russian Revolution was a contest of "who could out-hardship the other side". The Spanish Revolution was a contest of "who can wage a better war". The French Revolution was... Long, but the people will be free. Did it ever really end? What if, hear me out, what if we out-competed the other side, as capitalism has been begetting amongst the other nations of the world "ah but each nation must have equAl armies" okay, so let's build moon-baseds in Nevada and military bases in Australia and the Yukatan, then one day when everthing's distributed commun ally, we can start the continuous breakdown. Why keep 1000 old tanks and 250 new ones, when you could have 500 new tanks and 500 scrap piles to make into TVs and jewelry? Then, as we build better and better, we build fewer and fewer. Sometoday i hope qe'll have authority. Then it'll all feel so consuming. All-encompassing. Where does my compass point? Always beyond the reach of arms. Or my legs, for that matter. I've never been to the north pole. I wonder what it's like on the other side of the magnetosphere? [pretty much the same, says the cartographist. Pretty much the same, says the spiritualist. Pretty much the same, says the simple machinist. Pretty odd and strong, says the compass.] ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╧══─────────┘ --- #7 messages/335 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────── part of the reason the classical socialist countries had difficulties with bureaucracy is because they centralized both execution *and* operation. I believe it'd be much better to centralize just execution, while leaving operation to the distributed masses who can generally figure their own jobs out. Of course, they'd need to be led, but that's the job of on-site organizers who can get people together to accomplish a goal. Different jobs - not better, not worse, just different. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #8 messages/744 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────── Something that the Soviet union learned and all autocracies wrestle with is that you will always have an opposition. Even if you purge all dissent you will simply be driving them underground where they can attack your foundations where you can't see. Much better I find to tame your foes. Get them on your side, teach them of reciprocal dualities, and bask in the growth that friendly competition and coordination can bring. I'm not a democrat, I'm not a republican, I'm a secret third thing that works for the nation. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────┴───────────┘ --- #9 fediverse/5608 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────── ┌─────────────────────────┐ │ CW: socialism-mentioned │ └─────────────────────────┘ socialism, in my mind, will always be a war-time economy. If there is no martial peril at stake, the war will be fought against scarcity, until one day communism is implemented. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────┴───────────┘ --- #10 fediverse/4808 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────── ┌────────────────────────┐ │ CW: politics-mentioned │ └────────────────────────┘ what if we elected one party to each branch of government every election and they checked and balanced each other georgism style individualism, chinese style communism, and american style anarchism for the person, for the nation, for the people individualism, collectivism, and distributed nodes when in power, each branch would work to move their institutions toward their ideals. Hey, they're the ones who repealed the chevron doctrine. How are we gonna weaponize it? (just spit-balling) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────┴───────────┘ --- #11 fediverse/196 --- ════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────── ┌───────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: protests-and-strikes-and-mergers-and-acquisitions │ └───────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ economic warfare involves the destruction of other corporations (possibly in other countries) via a slow march toward haegemony. unions are the ships of the tumultuous capitalistic seas that protect workers from the storm. everyone should be a part of a union. the corporations can battle as they will, but we humans are not going to turn on each other. it's something they claim to know as an absolute fact, but really it's just based on a mistake. sorta like being deceived by happenstance. the sun lights up the sky until the earth conceals it, and night does return 'till the sky's next alive. oh, but the sky knows all too well the borders we draw in the sand. how cherished, how grand! the ways in which we choose to stand. upon whose land does your feet stand? marvelous. ... it's the same thing, just in a more abstract plane than the surface of the earth. really it's kinda one-dimensional (money is sorta like a 0 or a 1 - you eather have it or you don't) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #12 messages/319 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────── Alright ya'll, if they're going to automate our jobs out of existence then perhaps its time we started doing the same to them. I mean, they're working on automating not just creative jobs, but also most office jobs as well. Leaving only menial labor to us, which is "fine" I guess. But perhaps we can "strike back" as it were and dismantle capitalism at the same time. Does that sound like too much to hope for? I think not! It's simple really, we just need to design a generic and compelling alternative to buying stuff with a credit card. Okay, it's a bit less simple than that, and I never said it would be easy. In fact, getting people to agree is the hard part. So can't we all just agree to attempt different things in different places as the locals define? Seems natural to me. And now the part of the post where I point a finger at you, yes you, the person reading this post. Are you willing to think about alternatives to capitalism? Are you willing to utilize the tools of our masters to break the chains of those enslaved? Are you willing to put effort into facilitating the development of crucial systems which may one day govern our day-to-day? If yes, then perhaps you'd like to listen as I explain how I envision the near future may look, as we plod onward day-by-day toward our bright fully automated luxury gay space communist future, where nobody has to hunger and nobody has to hurt. Not unless they consent, of course. Ah, shit, I should probably have prepared a presentation or something. Gimme a sec. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════────────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #13 fediverse/119 --- ╔═══════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌───────────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: politics, alien egg sacks │ │ ║ └───────────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ okay how about this: what if people, living in a democracy, volunteered │ ║ themselves to be part of a socio-economic testing group. essentially a │ ║ miniature economy and social structure. A standard set of rules and │ ║ regulations would facilitate any interactions necessary for trade and civilian │ ║ free movement - POSIX for societies. If people want to try out fully automated │ ║ luxury space communism then they should totally have the opportunity to do │ ║ that. Every mis-step is a path away from that future, but like, "step" as in │ ║ like a volatile gray good that's constantly exploding itself onto things. Or │ ║ aliens, on an asteroid, waiting for a ship to land on them or a planet to get │ ║ in their way. I don't want to be an alien egg sack, so clearly we should be │ ║ able to vote in our own words and have chatGPT decide which ballot boxes to │ ║ fill for us. And it's not like those ballot boxes have to change every year, │ ║ unless people think of new ones to add. Kinda scary tbh. Kinda thrilling too, │ ║ to be the future │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #14 fediverse/4224 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: politics-mentioned │ │ ║ └────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ we could accomplish so much, *but* capitalism. │ ║ │ ║ hmmmm, maybe we should identify the highest output members of our team and │ ║ like, reduce or eliminate their worries so they can apply themselves fully and │ ║ completely? │ ║ │ ║ for every shackle we break, the struggle becomes easier. The hardest part is │ ║ the beginning - once the ball is rolling, we may truly shine. │ ║ │ ║ there is no government nor circle of autocrats who may resist the will of an │ ║ impassioned people. So long as the military does not deny us our right to │ ║ organize ourselves as we will, according to the constitution they swore to │ ║ uphold (which is now in *peril*, I might add), nothing can contain us. │ ║ │ ║ no acts of god nor capital shall prevent our ascension. They will try, and │ ║ it'll be just another thing that we have to handle. │ ║ │ ║ But we can take care of each other. For we are good, and we are kind, and we │ ║ are cooperative. And so, we cannot be overcome. │ ║ │ ║ ... just watch out for those who *prey* on goodness, kindness, and │ ║ cooperation. They may hamper us. │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩═══════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #15 fediverse/6148 --- ╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: militaries-mentioned-prison-industrial-complex-mentioned │ │ ║ └──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ what if instead of wars we just made small incursions into foreign territory │ ║ to liberate specific prisoners of theirs who we want to capture for our own │ ║ and do with as we please │ ║ │ ║ I know I'd liberate cool radical people of afar who deserve to be free. like, │ ║ idk, pussy riot or something. gosh that's the problem isn't it? you can't │ ║ think of anyone because get this: they live so far away │ ║ │ ║ like, can you name the most radical people in a random town of your own │ ║ nation? would you be able to find them and break them out of prison? gosh I │ ║ know I wouldn't, I'm just a girl. And the problem with anarchic organization │ ║ typically is that it's often hard to create such things - it tends to be │ ║ locally focused. y'know, solving problems in your community and all that. │ ║ │ ║ However, you can always work on building a team and then do the thing. Could │ ║ even make organizations for it. Like... a military perhaps. │ ║ │ ║ prisons are fortresses so maybe it'd be fun. collateral damage though │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──┴───────────┘ --- #16 fediverse/4694 --- ╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────┐ ║ what if we pooled our money and bought an apartment building and put 10 people │ ║ in each two bedroom apartment but reserved like, 20% of the apartments for │ ║ common spaces and designed each one around a theme and shared chores and │ ║ shared our SNAP budgets and each paid like, 200$ for rent and gave away all of │ ║ the stuff we made with our hobbies and handled conflict with radical empathy │ ║ and had movie nights where we watched movies about socialism and trains and │ ║ bugs and stars │ ║ │ ║ what if we went into the forest and LARPed as french resistance fighters under │ ║ nazi occupation and practiced peeing on trees and starting fires and moving as │ ║ a team and firing rifles without hitting our friends and staying oriented as │ ║ we changed directions and dug trenches and built treehouses that were nearly │ ║ invisible from the ground and didn't radiate heat because they were covered in │ ║ mylar or whatever │ ║ │ ║ what if we made decentralized, encrypted, anonymous communications and │ ║ practiced speaking in code and dropping letters and writing "poetry" │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩══════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────┴───────────┘ --- #17 fediverse/5545 --- ╔════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────┐ ║ if you want to organize on a mass scale, stop trying to be people's friends. │ ║ │ ║ instead, start issuing commands. │ ║ │ ║ [1 month earlier] │ ║ │ ║ hey so I was thinking of going around to all the streets on my house and │ ║ handing out notebooks full of useful numbers they could call if they need help │ ║ in one area or another. I was thinking it'd help because then people would │ ║ know where the local [safe/store]houses were. Plus if anyone had a project, │ ║ they could more easily hook up. │ ║ │ ║ [1 month earlier] │ ║ │ ║ so I was thinking about hosting a "captain" workshop, as in "here's what you │ ║ do when you're suddenly deputized" type of course. Except instead of like, │ ║ teaching you how to light a fire or mend a wound, instead I taught you how to │ ║ lead. │ ║ │ ║ Like, "here's some projects that a suburban subdivision could complete on │ ║ their own" and "what if we collectivized our efforts and defences" and "why is │ ║ nobody acting as if war was coming to our home" and "oh yes please I'd love an │ ║ extra helping of spaghetti dear I love you so very very much my dear" │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩═════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────┴───────────┘ --- #18 fediverse/4838 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────── ┌───────────────────────┐ │ CW: cursing-mentioned │ └───────────────────────┘ okay but who's the real foe? anyone who exerts oppressive power, right? like... that's pretty basic, should be easy enough to figure out who's doing that. "so... what would you say you *do* here?" what if the USA took a year off from the everything and just martial lawyered it's way back to a bright beginning like, you don't have to have a bloody revolution to restart a government. Literally just, sign out of the world for a minute and come back when *everything's changed* do you trust us? or do you trust yourselves? Should be easy enough to tell what the rest of the world would think. seriously nobody asked you specifically to do this, america, you're pretty much just... doing this because WW2 was fucking traumatizing and you're basically a baby country. (oops cursing mentioned) [oh my god she's a chaos gremlin] (you didn't know this about her?) #it's pleasant here# %you don't have to be so deranged% (yeah, we're working on that one) [secret system thing~] ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────┴───────────┘ --- #19 messages/1344 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────── what if we put the nuclear weapons in the world under control of a "third party" that just launches them at anyone who wages war on anyone else? ah, but suddenly other conflicts like infiltration and genocide mean we can't wage war to contest them. great, there goes my "liberate all the slaves" idea, maybe I should think of a different "nuke solution" ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╧════───────┘ --- #20 fediverse/4812 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────── ┌────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: re: politics-mentioned │ └────────────────────────────┘ @user-1074 hence my suggestion for a three tier system - one of which maintains the current system, the next which organizes labor, and the next which organizes families ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────┴───────────┘ --- #21 fediverse/4805 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: violence-mentioned │ │ ║ └────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ what if we got like 300 people and used them to kidnap one of their leaders │ ║ and hold them for ransom │ ║ │ ║ I'm in favor of removing the right arm of anyone who's recorded themselves │ ║ doing a nazi salute and isn't earnestly repentant │ ║ │ ║ "is that enough to arrest her?" │ ║ │ ║ "nah she needs to express intent. that's just an idea, a thought, something │ ║ she can say publicly because she doesn't know the schedule of their leaders │ ║ nor does she have the organizational capability to arm and direct 300ish souls │ ║ to strike cleansing blows" │ ║ │ ║ "okay but that's just twisting the english language, right? I mean, clearly │ ║ she's up to something" │ ║ │ ║ "that's by design. she does this on purpose. the goal is to not only │ ║ disseminate ideas, but also to raise the fucking temperature amongst the │ ║ hearts of her allies who are too often kept in despair." │ ║ │ ║ "and what of the temperature of her enemies? Surely they will rise to meet │ ║ her?" │ ║ │ ║ "they don't even know who the fuck she is" │ ║ │ ║ "... wow, savior complex much?" │ ║ │ ║ "tell me about it. Diva..." │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩═══════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────┴───────────┘ --- #22 fediverse/4566 --- ╔════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌────────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: politics-mentioned │ │ ║ └────────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ I want modern society without capitalism. Most people do, which is why no │ ║ matter how awesome our proto-post-capitalistic anarchic socialist paradise is, │ ║ there's always going to be people who want to go to work and watch TV. │ ║ │ ║ call me fucking crazy but they should be allowed to live as they please? So │ ║ what if they're beguiled, so what if they are deceived? We can take our time │ ║ to show them how much better things can be, but also... they like modern │ ║ society *as it is*, and so I reckon someone should fight for them to be able │ ║ to live as they please. Just... without billionaires and endless layers of │ ║ bullshit micro-managerial jobs and paperwork pushing bureaucratic whatever │ ║ time wasting jobs. │ ║ │ ║ modern society without capitalism *can* look like plain old capitalism, just │ ║ without the oppression. Without the coercion. │ ║ │ ║ all I'm saying is that nobody's gonna fight for a healthcare CEO because │ ║ they're scum. They're scum because they oppress. oops politics-mentioned brb │ ║ │ ║ I personally want communes + love │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩═════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────┴───────────┘ --- #23 messages/1151 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────── capital C communism is easy. Just pay everyone the same amount, and they can swim in the market economy waters as easily as any capitalistic fish, and suddenly their incentives are aligned - when one of us selfishly improves our lives, we improve the collective as well. When one selflessly improves the collective, all of our personal lives are improved. Then, optimize for radical abundance, the ability to have whatever you want as soon as ideal, and suddenly everything starts working out. P.S. the route to abundance is through recycling perfectly. Design your goods to be functional in that way, and you have infinite resources that can be used for infinitely many things (until they literally wear away to dust) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╧═══────────┘ --- #24 messages/1449 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────── The military, I think, should focus on building cheaper versions of the best stuff available, so we can have more of them to dispatch in a fight. Having classes of weaponry that's farther developed behind than the precision machine can be better than throwing away billions of computer parts. Steel and rocket fuel to a long way, and besides its not like we need all that rock (metal) or oil (fuel) anyway. So... It pays to be efficient. Find the best cost/value parameter and minimize cost in human lives. There, long-term best strat. Best strat ever? Plus the citizens would be happier meaning they can make more GDP meaning they can make more weapons to play if they saved in their pockets. And distributed it to others we helped, to allow them do to as they pleased. Or have you forgotten the American way? More mechanics, more technicians, more logisticians, more celebrations. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╧═════──────┘ --- #25 fediverse/5764 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────┐ ║ what if we developed volunteer brigades who went overseas and got combat │ ║ experience fighting against evil │ ║ │ ║ what if we paid for their houses while they were gone and watered their plants │ ║ and fed their children and supplied their clothing and utilized our VAST │ ║ logistic networks to [project power far afield? ha good luck] okay I see your │ ║ point the USA had the greatest logistic network in the world and it smashed │ ║ one of the greatest armies in the world in like, 2 days with essentially zero │ ║ casualties and yet years and years later it still lost the world. │ ║ │ ║ turns out warfare isn't really about blowing things up with massive pieces of │ ║ machinery. │ ║ │ ║ "hearts and minds" she says, "channel thine divine" she is said, "didn't you │ ║ used to be an atheist before you moved out of home" said her mom probably idk │ ║ she doesn't talk to her much anymore which is so sad for both of them they │ ║ really should just talk but they're on opposite sides of the country because │ ║ of stupid reasons and so she's lonely and longs for home so she sleep │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────┴───────────┘ --- #26 messages/364 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────── Capitalism isn't perfect but if it's capitalism or cyberpunk North Korean style dystopia, I'll pick capitalism. Can we at least make it so that the rich aren't safe financially though? Like, if you own a billion dollars it should be because you make a billion dollars per year. Anything you don't spend should be taxed away, to be used for public services and the defence of our nation. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #27 fediverse/2808 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────── ┌───────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: politics-leftism-military-death-mentioned │ └───────────────────────────────────────────────┘ the reason leftists cling to institutions is because without them, the military would just shoot us. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #28 fediverse/423 --- ╔═════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: us-pol-cursing │ │ ║ └──────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ How about next election after this clusterfuck where we demolish the fascists │ ║ we take a breather and say "okay every candidate submits their plan for a │ ║ controlled demolition of capitalism, the winner gets to implement their idea" │ ║ │ ║ wait that's a terrible idea people will just vote for the thing that makes │ ║ them feel good and is vaguely shaped like a D or an R. │ ║ │ ║ How about this: we design a decentralized program that can run on any computer │ ║ or phone that locally analyzes every file and pattern to generate a │ ║ personality matrix that will interact in a massive simulation that is a │ ║ mirrored reflection of the structure of our society as it currently exists │ ║ (and as it'd be proposed to exist) and anyone who wants to vote can run │ ║ through pseudo experiences tailored to their personality / demographic or │ ║ whatever and play with the proposed system to see which one they like more. │ ║ It'd have to be very statistically sound in order to accurately reflect │ ║ reality. │ ║ │ ║ wait, that's just a torment-nexus-precursor. Darn. │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩══════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #29 fediverse/2692 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────── ┌─────────────────────────┐ │ CW: re: Minor annoyance │ └─────────────────────────┘ @user-1319 @user-1074 russia is basically the epitome of capitalistic oligarchy, so what you're saying supports @user-1074 's point. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #30 fediverse/5283 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────── if you attempt to dismantle capitalism, they'll contest you. if you attempt to claim power, they'll show you how. if you attempt to be exempt from proving [deserve-tion/desertion] you will be viewed as an enemy, which is how they keep the productive in line. I'd rather have 500 people sitting on the couch eating cheetos than 5 people in a trenchcoat doing 1500 AI's jobs. if they don't need your labor, then they don't need you. universal basic income is necessary and basic. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────┴───────────┘ --- #31 messages/441 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────── Do you remember stores with floor-to-ceiling goods? The kind that didn't go bad, so you could afford to have lots of inventory. Not like it's being replaced and thrown out as soon as the executives with their profit margins decide that its no longer worthwhile. Here's an idea - how about executives are paid by the employees to manage their company? And if things aren't going right, they can get a new team. Like, if every team had control of their manager, I wonder what dynamics would emerge? ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #32 messages/53 --- ════─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── You need to trust both the government and corporations equally. It's best to work together so you can actually accomplish something. Instead we're just cast at each other like weapons or banelings. Corporations primarily through social media indoctrination and media, and governments through anti-corporation bullshit - the anti-work hysteria is is stoked while the government stokes the flames of racism and mysogyny. The people through riots and civil disobedience. Also the cops and military and all the other institutions are all like that too, but with differing cultural memes and methods. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═══──────┴───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #33 fediverse/2080 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────── @user-1165 I vote yes, because people don't like change. I think we need to build something that naturally evolves into communism - like for example prices that trend toward zero as production increases and waste decreases, or community structures that naturally build solidarity through their structure, form, and functions rather than through voluntary effort like a union. Because not only do people not like change, they're also generally lazy, typically preferring to be home eating sandwiches with their dog and watching TV than at work discussing labor conditions. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┴───────────┘