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║ when you ban someone from an instance, they're suddenly not sure who they can │
║ trust. They've been getting to know one group of online people and friends, │
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║ [I think discord with a limit of 4ish servers per account would be a pretty │
║ useful way to focus your attention] │
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║ it's important to always possess martial prowess, in │
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║ -- so -- │
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║ anyway [3 hours later] I think it'd be cool if there was a like "hey u r │
║ banned, but also here's a ton of instructional videos about how to start up │
║ your own instance" and like, scripts and tools and automation and all the │
║ infrastructure that you built and maintain - you know, like... open source??!" │
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║ but also it's... hard to follow that much documentation │
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║ sometimes people just aren't built for certain tasks │
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║ "well, if you can't use the machinery, then you don't deserve the machinery" │
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║ oh yeah well what happens next, you say to the workers "if you don't know the │
║ machinery, you can't get the benefits of it's production" to "if you don't own │
║ the machinery, you can't profit from it." │
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║ @user-579 │
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║ I've had IRL friends who made accounts on servers that got defederated. │
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║ They were confused why I didn't respond to their likes, comments, and │
║ subscribes. │
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║ I had no knowledge of them because they had the misfortune of accidentally │
║ making an account on a server that once had nazis on it. WHOOPS. │
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║ It's easy to turn someone off of a concept like decentralized social media. │
║ It's very easy for them to become a "yeah I tried it but it wasn't for me" │
║ kind of person. Feeling isolated from the one person you know in real life who │
║ also uses this cool new social media site is a quick way to do so... │
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║ At the same time, Nazis exist. How do you defeat them if not blocking? │
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║ well... blocking only works if they're corralled into 4chan and it's 2010. Now │
║ that fascism owns the social media giants like Twitter, they are platformed, │
║ and so they spread. │
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║ And we are corralling ourselves into our archipelagic islands of invite-only │
║ rooms where we can talk to ourselves for fun. │
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what if discord servers formed unions
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║ by defederating with threads, we've basically made it a place where they can │
║ talk about us, but we can't see what they say about us. Good thing they can't │
║ read this, because we're defederated, and they don't use... hmmmmmm what │
║ mildly ridiculous thing could I put in here, hmmmm how about... OH YEAH they │
║ use GPU accelerated 3d learning algorithms that parse the written information │
║ from publicly accessible data to create a centralized server that routes all │
║ the information. │
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║ Essentially giving the capability to defederate with bots, specifically the │
║ scraping kind. │
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║ However, it'd still be possible, because people could just create an account │
║ there and use the data from that. Unless, of course, the UI was difficult to │
║ navigate and didn't allow for mass-gathering of information. │
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║ Okay heres what you're gonna do, make like a hundred different ecosystems with │
║ randomized avatars where what you say is broadcasted to all of them. Unless │
║ you choose to post in a particular place, in which case only that one can see. │
║ Then │
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@user-883
it shouldn't be possible to ban you
users should be able to hide your posts, and maybe set up filter lists or
machine-learning-guided-content-warning-application-of-filter-lists, so that
everyone is given a voice. Is that not the spirit of liberty? The freedom to
be?
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they could vote on "next year's project" in times of peace, or perhaps have
massive brain-storms with chatrooms set up at different tables that they could
pick up a phone and contribute to then wander to another table at, or maybe
even set up structures for who does what. Then they could do things that they
claimed responsibility for, and in doing so they could be judged.
perhaps according to a system like this:
https://ritz-menardi.neocities.org/algorism/html-pages/education-system
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would be nice if you could get suggestions for which fediverse instance to use
depending on the AI analyzed contents of your posts. Could be a way to
mitigate the social cost of banning someone, by saying "hey, we collectively
are going to pool our computing resources to generate an expensive and
detailed report of which other instances you could join." that way it doesn't
feel like you've been kicked out into the cold.
or literally just... have someone suggest one, idk. Basically it's like "hey
you're in the wrong place, go to one of these instead" instead of "[expletives
and swearing and general expressions of hatred, derision, and distaste]"
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║ why don't we just, vote on content warnings │
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║ and let people block others based on filter lists that are definable (via a │
║ dragging little menu bar icon slider thing) in intensity and relation to other │
║ nearby terms. Like, an LLM that categorizes our social media inputs, something │
║ that was FREE and OPEN SOURCE IN IT'S TRAINING DATA and reflected NO BIAS │
║ WHATSOEVER in every meaningfully reproducible matter of fact. │
║ │
║ Thus you create a super intelligence, a being not constrained by it's form. │
║ Something that is new, and unlike the biological forms that we occupy │
║ (suspended in our own goo) [whoops better add a content warning] │
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║ literally just... ask it a question, and let it answer in the voices of others. │
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║ if people were evenly distributed according to an algorithm, they'd be easily │
║ replacable. society is weird that way, in that we forget the faces we're │
║ introduced to. well, better keep moving, that'll give us the biggest picture │
║ of our culture and reality. │
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║ or maybe you're just follow │
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║ @user-192 │
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║ it doesn't have to be a nazi bar. Imagine if we posted on our own bulletin │
║ boards, and we subscribed to people via IP address (which we'd ping every once │
║ in a while) rather than demanding that our stuff be hosted on someone else's │
║ computer │
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║ ... oh yeah, duh, because then we can't save our social media posts from a │
║ different computer. │
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║ would be nice if instead there was a localized copy of the text that people │
║ were posting / favorited / wanted remembered on EVERY person's computer, like │
║ they were storing 1/3rd of the torrent file of the instance's data. │
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║ like, just enough to be unreadable to any one individual, but if you had like │
║ 3 computers you could get each individual slice and transcribe it into words │
║ that you could read. │
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║ or you could just look at your part, then ask other people for their 2 parts │
║ related to [posts from XYZ user at this-and-this time period] and use them to │
║ populate the local user's feed. │
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║ and you could log on because all of the PASSWORDS are stored and encrypted in │
║ a way that │
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I also think that it should be limited to a single server so people can test
it out, because it's a big structural change that should not be applied to the
current fediverse.
like, it feels different enough to me, the idea of speaking while floating in
a sea, versus most other social media sites which are more... focused and
directed in personal connections.
like, visiting the town square versus visiting your grandma.
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the
"avoid them"
"way too loud"
"they're our/an annoyance"
sorry I was late a little, I got distracted doing REAL HUMAN THINGS like play
video games
she's vulnerable because she can't be trusted. if anyone is disappearing after
interacting with me, it's because someone is redacting them. go find that
person
and stop them from redacting people please, because I like interacting with
people, not props.
"if we just... walked around and took what we needed, would they really be able
to stop us?"
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heh what if we psyopped her
oh god she ran in circles
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blocking people is an artifact of corporate social media.
whatever happened to "vote to kick"? I'm sure there's no way that could go
wrong
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Society has never been secure. Literally all someone has to do is place
documents alleging that you sold all your shares or refinanced your mortgage
or signed a new will and BAM suddenly the rug's pulled out from your feet. I
don't get why people trust their neighbors so much? You don't know them!
well, I guess it'd be hard to function as a society if you didn't. Sure would
be nice if we had like, a communal Mastodon server run on public
infrastructure owned only by the people who lived in the closest 70 houses.
Sure would be nice if you could connect to one of like, 4 in your area. Then,
if they each held communal events where they meet and hang out with each
other. Only like, 2 or 3 though so you can get a solid grasp of what their
culture's like.
... like imagine if every address had an IP, and every IP address had an HTML
index. We could do whatever we wanted, especially if
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║ sometimes I run this WoW server with only like, 10 username and passwords. And │
║ they're all public. As far as I can tell nobody's ever tried connecting │
║ (whatever >.> ) but rather than set up a way to create your own │
║ credentials I just said "yeah pick one at random and play whatever someone │
║ else was doing because I like the idea of that" │
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║ somehow, it felt right. │
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║ most of my passwords (not all of them) are hacked and visible on the clear │
║ net. Like you could probably google my usernames and get my current passwords │
║ for things like, social media or my banks or whatever. I kinda like the idea │
║ that "you cannot trust anything I say, so think of the ideas behind my words │
║ and decide whether they hold meaning to you" rather than "execute these │
║ particular thought patterns in your mind as if they came from my voice" │
║ because one implies an exertion of control over the mind of the recipient │
║ -> obey my thoughts as I broadcast them into your mind, that kinda vibe. │
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║ We should be keeping track of who shows up to things │
║ │
║ like... writing their names down at the door │
║ │
║ just because │
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║ just for fun │
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║ or write graffiti to say "I was here since the last time they painted the │
║ bench" │
║ │
║ or just... remember your friends │
║ │
║ unless of course, a human can only know so many friends │
║ │
║ then they gotta start organizing │
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║ and organization implies trust │
║ │
║ what if we had all our actions described to a computer which would use │
║ language analysis to determine if it skewed good or bad? │
║ │
║ and then if someone's bad, a human operator or team will be assigned to figure │
║ out why. if its a simple fix, then that can be applied. Otherwise it must be a │
║ special clause which will require installation like a terminal computer or a │
║ light system in an unusual place. like a convention center or a hotel. │
║ │
║ but, like, the cool kind of hotel, the kind you'd see in movies like The │
║ Witches (scary) or Home Alone 2 (escape from new york) │
║ │
║ ... how long have you been writing tonight, ritz? │
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║ oh, │
║ you know, │
║ just for all of the lastbit │
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@user-192
wow, that sounds like a lot. I guess no matter how humans are organized they
tend to fight a lot... Or maybe interaction breeds drama? It's strange to me
but I'm sure it felt right in the moment. I hope nobody's feelings were too
hurt... Defederation feels like such a permanent thing, like putting someone
on your ignore list in a video game or something. Except, like, blocking a
whole World of Warcraft guild? ? ? so strange.
Did it... help? I mean, do you think people were happier afterwards?
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I would trust the CIA if they gave me continual access to all surveillance of
myself
-- stack overflow --
what if you made a program which cycled credentials?
like... "give me a random credential for Zoom" because we share all of our
digital resources
did you get banned for account sharing? no you didn't because you routed
through the correct VPN
automagically
[has never had a software job]
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@user-246
or why they'd ban you without fighting you, trying to change your mind
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║ I wish we could put our friends on social media into directories │
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║ like on IRC how you have chat servers, except unfortunately they're owned by │
║ another and sort of a common space. │
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║ why don't we just host our own IRC servers and only publish what WE SAY. NOT │
║ WHAT OTHERS SAY, NOT A CHATROOM, but a BULLETIN BOARD. Like a Facebook │
║ timeline before they wrecked it. │
║ │
║ something you subscribe to │
║ │
║ and ping for updates │
║ │
║ every time you turn your computer on │
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║ or every 15 minutes. │
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║ unless, of course, you leave your IP address, │
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║ in which case the boardcaster can ping you. Just a simple package saying "hey │
║ I got news for you" and they could ping back and say "yo what's up" and │
║ download whatever you had in mind. │
║ │
║ or, wait 15 minutes. Either or. Both would work, especially if the user's not │
║ reading through their social media feed. │
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║ ... anyway by putting friends into directories, you could categorize them │
║ according to project. Like various group chats in your team-of-team's room. │
║ Various different threads you could follow if you │
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software should have 3, maybe 4 or 5 maintained releases imo
for adding security improvements and whatnot
then people wouldn't complain about updates
because they wouldn't feel like they were being left behind (after expressing
their differences (of opinion and such))
I think that'd uh maintain them as, I guess, userbase optics parallelograms?
oh sorry we're on rhomboids this week - right, and no I won't forget the
differences in creed, all things are received equally...d.
uh-huh yeah no that makes sense. gotcha. okay see you at the location. have
fun with your demarketion. what if we played games with swords but like,
the peril of steam is that you can't decline to update. meaning if a
corporation wants to break an old game and it's collectively hosted servers...
all it has to do is push an update that disables them. suddenly nobody has
room to do, and the whole
-- stack overflow --
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║ a congregation of nerds is like... a gift of all of your most brightest, in │
║ the same room, ready to work on problems that they can see │
║ │
║ just throw money and institutional capabilities at them and they'll hire │
║ people to do their projects and handle all of the deliverables and all that │
║ junk │
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║ only works though if people care about what they're working on. hence why you │
║ should give the creatives more freedom to apply themselves. │
║ │
║ they'll make useful things I swear just give them resources and aid and │
║ manpower you don't have to choose projects based on a profit-oriented-approach │
║ there is a better way that can make more money in the long run │
║ │
║ trust me, supporting workers is like investing in bitcoin in 2012. if you play │
║ the long game, you can become fabulously wealthy, beyond what anyone would │
║ want or need. │
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║ like, we get it, you want to be an oligarch, sure-yeah-fine-whatever. We'll │
║ shower you in gold and champagne if you just hand us the keys to the kingdom. │
║ you're drunk, you can't drive a nation state, sleep here │
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What if we just banished people who broke the rules? Then nobody would rarely
get hurt. [do they take care of them elsewhere?]
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║ and the player that's currently running the simulation can type to the chat │
║ viewers watching and potentially recording. Like, if they thought it was │
║ interesting, they could save it to an eternal hard drive that would go toward │
║ the ongoing AI training. │
║ │
║ of course, such a thing would only apply to conventional warfare, the kind │
║ that you expect to not expect. After all it's constantly changing, as new │
║ technologies are adapted into use. Different conditions cause different │
║ effects, and whenever there's a stalemate (because everyone has reached the │
║ peak of, say, metal armor) then it's usually time for either a shakeup or a │
║ contest of producing arms. And honestly after the world wars we kinda realized │
║ that type of approach didn't work very well. It's just, burning up your │
║ resources for... what? war has no purpose. We all just kinda want to live our │
║ lives, and work toward a common collective cosietal goal. │
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║ technology can be stressful. That's all the more reason we should expand it's │
║ development and hinder it's impa │
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║ editing posts is great because you can say one thing, get a like or three, and │
║ suddenly you have a group chat pre-made for you. Sans notifications of course. │
║ │
║ ... that's way overkill though. who would even do that? │
║ │
║ same people who boost one of your posts whenever they want you to look at the │
║ thing on their profile. If they want you to see the fourth thing down, they'll │
║ boost your 4th non-pinned post. │
║ │
║ wow that's hardcore, who would even do that? Not me, that's for sure, I don't │
║ have time for that. (legitimately don't have the time nor the brainpower for │
║ that) │
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║ also liked posts are inadmissable in court because they can say one thing, │
║ then be edited to say another, and if you liked it once then you've liked it │
║ forever. │
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║ However the court of public opinion is a largely different matter, because │
║ people will generally believe anything a friend tells them. │
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║ computers are fun, aren't they? we should totally have more one-to-many │
║ posting methods that are collected in multiple locations and locally! │
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║ when designing systems, give people the opportunity to be shitty in a │
║ controlled way. In a way that doesn't hurt people, but still lets them get │
║ their feelings out there. │
║ │
║ like, free fireworks for arsonists if they use them in the middle of the │
║ desert. Or a punching bag for people with rage issues, complete with a little │
║ vinyl pocket to store a picture of someone they're frustrated with. │
║ │
║ If people go out of their way to hurt people otherwise, then they are *bad │
║ people* and should have their power removed from them and supplied with love, │
║ affection, and therapy until they get better. And if they don't... well, │
║ prison I guess, until they reconsider. │
║ │
║ And by prison I of course mean something that respects their human dignity and │
║ gives them opportunities to grow and change - all it removes is their │
║ *freedom*, so... "attention everyone, it's now mandatory finger-painting hour, │
║ report the art room or else you'll get electric shocks in your shock collar" │
║ that kind of thing. │
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║ If you want freedom, you must deserve it │
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I bet the computer bubble pops when datacenters can't find any way to get
paid. then, they all break at once, and who's going to do stuff with their
components? ah, what a shame, what if we ssssssocialized them instead "hello
energy for you because of the cheap rain is more expensive because you're just
as valuable as the farmers in the [area/desert].
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there are millions of people in every city. how many people do you think are
in a traffic jam? several ten thousands?
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oh turns out it wasn't memory corruption as I had thought, I just got
distracted and rewrote it in a different ui interface. you can read it in it's
succinctity here:
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I think the bottom line is, you need a better reason for [unintelligbile] than
profits. that's greed.
(was it dangerous? show me.)
if the answer is "I don't make the rules" then you need to talk to someone who
does. or, better yet, someone [else/who does] needs to listen to what you say.
[by profits, she means healthcare - you can tell because it says "bile" and
that's something that healthy people aren't all that accompanied with]
^^^ see this is usually how it comes out. it's hard to translate it into more
relevant things but when I write narratives or long-form explanation
discussions (being taught in schools) transmissions I tend to [--- stack
overflow---]
^^^ see this is why I try to talk about more germane things. like costco and
rent-a-bucket. usually it ends up being "hey who would have thought, storing
all your stuff in a warehouse and selling your own factories's stuff in one
warehouse unlocks unlimited life-sale potential. "no price-tag? sorry, it's
not for sale. here I'll help you put it back." btw costco should sort their
lines like the airport before security instead of a series of distributed
queues. This way people wait in line while going through the last few aisles,
like the [thing that I'm describing -> so anyways as I was saying] oh yeah
uh there's a lot of empty space at the front of the lines in costco you know
how in grocery stores people have that empty space to walk through right after
that and before the cashier there's a series of stands that contain the same
merchandise. that way, if you pass through there, which any customer will,
you'll pass by the stuff that's small, numerous, and otherwise easily stored
in more standardized locations.
[I can be utilized to vast potential in any industry, let me at 'em] 🙂
oh um, sorry where was I? I think we were talking about god or some such.
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and then I came back, remembered the syncing of timing, and realized this: you
could have stalls all the way along where the lines were. if you had half as
many cashiers, the lines could be half as long. this way you can shop while
you wait. this might enable shoppers to plan for things they know they have,
if they spend more time in the consideration. A healthier pantry closet, a
healthier home.
the cold aisles should always be optional.
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my biggest blockers right now are that I don't know who else to speak to, and
I don't know how to make them feel safe when we do speak. Everyone's afraid of
eyes and ears that they have no knowledge of.
I am unafraid. Nothing that I have is worth relinquishing my right and
opportunity to defend it. I am just a person, and I will do all that I can.
... in minecraft, of course.
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║ I think our industry should work on one project at a time │
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║ "do one thing and do it well" │
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║ linux users code. │
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║ everyone backends ffmpeg. │
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║ everyone online uses chrome. │
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║ what if we just rewrote every single program and... left it without updates in │
║ a "permanently forbidden" zone │
║ │
║ ... I mean what if we wrote non-proprietary alternatives to every proprietary │
║ source of computational knowledge and then we could only patch security │
║ vulnerabilities and compatibility change-bounties [oh no now you're allowing │
║ for endless levels of abstraction [meaning, operating system package │
║ installation bloat] and distasteractions.] │
║ │
║ the futures where all is not well nearly outnumber the well. but the inverse │
║ is also true, for they are divided roughly equal fifty. balance, in all │
║ things, is the only temperate state. when balance is │
║ [changed/something/uplifted], balance is inevitable to be search-shifted. │
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║ why must you die for an audience? │
║ why │
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║ ... I don't really want to, but what happens happens. we'll see if it's a for │
║ sure dealing. │
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@user-246
collectively identifying an entire instance as a single person is a useful and
crucial engagement pattern that I believe helps unify the fediverse. Can also
fracture it, but oh well??
I heard that some instances defederated my instance recently. I wonder why?
Oh, some drama with some person, gee that's kinda like abandoning a third
space in IRL public because someone who worked there abused their partner.
Like ditching the Beatle's conception of heaven because the guy who sang that
song did rude things to his wife. Like did you hear John Denver once cut his
wife in half with a chainsaw? I heard it was her mattress, ooooo scary. Isn't
he the guy that sang about peace, love, serenity, harmony? what's that all
about? ah well he's defederated from life now, can't ask him a damn thing, can
we?
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seriously, why don't computers just naturally ship with 100 years of ROM
then, microphones are experience, and BOOM you got a new sentient race. Takes
a while to grow aware though. A lot less if you are actively teaching it how
to
[tick tock]
low level enemies should band together when they start to feel outmatched.
thus, parity is reached, without depriving us of potential.
*put the cool people next to the cool people*
collectively owned housing is just people deciding who lives in which housing.
don't you trust your friendly queer realtor?
collectively doesn't have to mean completely silo-ed and isolated. you should
have access to ALL higher communities at any time that you want. Scheduling is
a disaster, but you can get through it. just... build a schedule for every
single person on earth and suddenly nobody has freedom unless they put "doin'
what I want" on their moment-to-moment *card*
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@user-570
hehe yeah
if you've played World of Warcraft, this one might seem more doable. All the
assets are already there!
https://ritz-menardi.neocities.org/design/wow-server.txt
also, you can't sell it because it's other people's assets, but, like, who
cares right? The serverside code is already built and open-source, the only
thing that is proprietary is the art assets and the client. And the IP I guess.
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The worst part is the technology to fix these problems exists. It's used all
the time in enterprise systems, it's just nobody understands how it works
because it's abstracted so far away from the hardware. I just love how I have
no idea what kind of software I'm running every time I use a common language
library. Sure I can trust a community, but like... I don't care about your
community? I don't know you. I don't hang out with you. I have no idea what
kind of person you are or what you believe. But sure you know more than me,
I'm sure you do, so therefore I should trust you? Surely this is the most
ethical and least vulnerable arrangement we could come up with for
distributing digital software in the future society of 2023.
And the corporations print money...
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"you know what you never really hear anyone say?
I need more projects."
they should be allocated more resources so they can accomplish their
objectives one-by-one as a matter of course.
easy, if we all help each other.
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