=== ANCHOR POEM === ═════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────── plants need carbon and nitrogen primarily to grow. Plus oxygen, water, and sunlight of course. I can't help but wonder if you poured a bunch of oil and um "manure" on a pile of sand, would it grow plants? Oil is carbon, and nitrogen is produced by living things. Animals mostly. Of course, various biochemical reactions occur, and microorganisms take one element or nutrient and combine it with others to generate more complex components. beyond that, plants and animals grow different minerals and proteins and other complex structures which are then present in their bodies as they decay under the shade of a tree looking out toward the sea. Plants need lots of things to grow. But all of those things are produced by nature, which is fundamentally a process that can be reproduced at our leisure, as long as the conditions are right and optimal. so, I wonder, would the great wall of trees surrounding the Sahara be helped by a more prolific understory? ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┴───────────┘ === SIMILARITY RANKED === --- #1 fediverse/2834 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────┐ ║ you can grow *anything* in soil. │ ║ │ ║ that's the neat thing about it - it's nature's recycler │ ║ │ ║ problem is... if you bury like, plastic and shit, then all that's gonna grow │ ║ up into your plants is... plastic and shit. │ ║ │ ║ the structural growth mechanisms of plants are inhibited by pollution, that's │ ║ the entire issue with them. animals can adapt - like, whatever, right? │ ║ │ ║ but if everything's biodegradable, then suddenly the whole world is a │ ║ trash-dump. │ ║ │ ║ (that's how they think) │ ║ │ ║ if you want to optimize food growth, you can supply with *specific* types of │ ║ growing fuel. like native americans who had like supplies of many different │ ║ types of manure. │ ║ │ ║ a cow eating grass will have different nutrients in it's poop than a duck │ ║ eating carrots. duh. │ ║ │ ║ so, if you combine different outputs to make new, better results... │ ║ │ ║ you can pretty much bio-engineer anything you'd like. │ ║ │ ║ like... feed the corn so that it's kernels are huge, right? then make that one │ ║ marry the other, and boom it's more likely grow. │ ║ │ ║ [those genetics are way outdated] │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩═══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #2 fediverse/1728 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────── show me an organism or chemical reaction that consumes one type of resource and outputs another in concert with another organism or chemical reaction that consumes that type of resource and outputs another in concert with another organism or chemical reaction that consumes that type of resource and outputs the first and I'll show you an ecosystem. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #3 fediverse/1823 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────── growing up on the plains, I saw only what humans could create there. Not what life was abound. When I visited the forests in the mountains, I thought smaller scale, more focused, more distributed. Back home, among the grasses, there was always more grass. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #4 fediverse/1709 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────── do you ever wonder about how much heat is absorbed the plants and leaves? Kinda makes me think that they're keeping us warm at night. The desert is much colder than you'd expect, and so it the moon, or mars, or any other sufficiently devastated forest habitat. (plains are my favorite biome, please don't take them away with your stupid climate change, they're one of the most at risk) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #5 fediverse/5074 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────── you don't raise a plant on water. you raise a plant on nutrients, dissolved in water, which are seeped into their hair follicles. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════────────┴───────────┘ --- #6 fediverse/3222 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────┐ ║ sometimes I set out a glass of water in the hopes that it might increase │ ║ precipitation downwind by a billionth of a percent │ ║ │ ║ I wonder what would happen if everyone did so? │ ║ │ ║ makes me want to design some kind of system which utilizes pumps, platters, │ ║ and fans to hydrate the atmosphere just a bit more │ ║ │ ║ rain + soil = solace in our home │ ║ rain + dirt = erosion of our planet's earth │ ║ │ ║ did you know that the plant which absorbs the most carbon per square foot is │ ║ moss? I think the fastest is bamboo, and the most efficient in general is soil. │ ║ │ ║ I dream of a world where we sit atop a mile of soil, down to the depths of the │ ║ earth where dirt and minerals prosper. The roots of the trees fuse together, │ ║ creating a wooden bed which we all rest upon, and the mountain peaks are │ ║ hollowed out to serve as our forever homes, full of light and moss and stone. │ ║ │ ║ this is the world I yearn for - the most resplendent timeline, with marble │ ║ statues and gilded chandeliers in our cavernous mountain homes. │ ║ │ ║ {but like on other planets too, right?} │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩═══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #7 image/img-8684 ---
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--- #8 fediverse/1533 --- ╔════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────┐ ║ ┌──────────────────────┐ │ ║ │ CW: dead-birds │ │ ║ └──────────────────────┘ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║ if you set out food for animals consistently, then more of them can live in │ ║ the area. │ ║ │ ║ but if you move across the state and take your bird feeder with you, the birds │ ║ will die. │ ║ │ ║ well, birds can fly, rabbits and chickens and squirrels are not so lucky. │ ║ birds might not die. though there is overall less food in the area, so they │ ║ might still die. │ ║ │ ║ when I was a kid, growing up in suburbia I used to see rabbits EVERYWHERE. My │ ║ cat would hunt them. I would run around with them. Now I see but a few. │ ║ │ ║ Rabbits eat grass, right? We sure do use a lot of pesticides on our immaculate │ ║ lawns. Or at least, the one neighbor three doors down does, and it's a free │ ║ country after all. │ ║ │ ║ explain to me again why we can't leave a trail of chopped up carrots behind │ ║ our lawn mowers? Why we can't spread seeds on our trails, or fill basins with │ ║ water? │ ║ │ ║ ... yeah, none of that makes money. All of it requires consistent persistent │ ║ effort. And it's not like our media glorifies it, what a shame it would be to │ ║ hold nature in our palms. │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩═════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #9 fediverse/1732 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────── here's an idea - if we can't get rid of the carbon right away, why not increase the total volume of our atmosphere such that it's more dispersed? like dissolving a salt in a solution, only with air and [insert pollutant here] ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #10 messages/759 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────── "carbon efficiency is pointless, we're just gonna figure out how to pull carbon from the atmosphere anyway" okay but carbon right now is a critical resource for a constrait other than dollars. We need to conserve the carbon budget we have because it generates effects down the line which are only acceptable at certain levels. Zero is preferrably, but sorta like ttickets in a backlog they need to be present in order to be dealt with. \"this river has turned into a bog, let's make it free flowing again\" said the beaver, and so the world was made large. you wanna see a world tree? build a forest on top of a hill. Better yet, a *mountain*, taller than the previous three. give it all that it needs. Forest, health-plunder, water for it's arms, and the light of the life we see before you. what better tale for your ancestors than the succession of the entire human race? \"sorry you had to die, but we built the most beautiful thing imaginable and named it after you.\" and like yeah, we'll work on reaching back in time to save you whenever-every-chance-that-we-get, but frankly so far all we've managed to get done is rippling wavelengths. do you trust your daughters? why not hear truth and explore stars for us? the future yearns for her prospects. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────┴───────────┘ --- #11 fediverse/2932 --- ╔══════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────┐ ║ food tastes better with more nutrients in it. │ ║ │ ║ when food is grown with the bare minimum soil, and bred to look better but │ ║ uptake fewer nutrients, it will taste worse because your taste buds light up │ ║ for vitamins but sleep for textures and colors. │ ║ │ ║ Massive monocrop algriculture has allowed us to feed billions of people (well, │ ║ not all of them) and yet it's unhealthy because the soil is tilled, killing │ ║ the vibrant ecosystem that lives in all soil, and then it is supplemented with │ ║ specific nutrients that cause plants to fruit faster and larger. │ ║ │ ║ But larger isn't always better. much the same way that hardwood is slower │ ║ growing as it takes longer to deposit the carbon and nutrients in the denser │ ║ walls of the bark, so too is fast-growing food less healthy as there's less │ ║ time to uptake nutrients (that might not even be present in the soil) │ ║ │ ║ food tastes better when it's good for you. │ ║ │ ║ I promise. │ ║ │ ║ The American diet is primarily sugar and meat, with flavoring added and │ ║ processing for texture. But there is a better way. │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩═══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #12 messages/1241 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────── here's my opinion: life on earth evolved when combinations of matter were forced into increasingly difficult-to-solve maze-like environments. this was due to the strange, honeycomb structure of their rock-like crust. [water pushed through soil ] -- stack overflow -- what if we raised more of the surface of the earth (from the oceans) and built a distant aquifer? ah, because most of the ocean is sand. (make sure you know the environment you're modifying before you modify it) how rapid is 10,000 years? ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╧════───────┘ --- #13 fediverse/5364 --- ╔════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────┐ ║ when considering invasive species, it doesn't matter how resistant a plant is │ ║ to a bug that likes to eat it. │ ║ │ ║ what matters is whether or not the plant is attractive to the bug. │ ║ │ ║ if the plant is hardy, it may resist the bug and slow it down, but the │ ║ onslaught is inevitable. the plant will fall. perhaps some of it's brethren │ ║ will survive, but next year there will be more bugs because nature is just │ ║ like that I guess. │ ║ │ ║ the plants that are less attractive to the ravaging bugs will be eaten last, │ ║ meaning they may be able to outlast the bug season. │ ║ │ ║ or maybe not. maybe the hardy plants will be eaten slower, and thus will be │ ║ considered less attractive. who can say. the end result though is that bugs │ ║ get fed, plants get gnoshed on, and humans are like "wait where did all the │ ║ biomass go" or more likely "hey it's really hot without all the plants shading │ ║ the ground and the bugs helping build the soil and the natural ecosystem │ ║ working cyclically, can you turn up the AC?" or more likely "it's really hot, │ ║ turn up the AC!" │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩═════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────┴───────────┘ --- #14 fediverse/2013 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────── @user-217 photosynthesis ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #15 fediverse/313 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────────── when we're fully grown, we won't need all the resources on earth. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧══════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #16 fediverse/5825 --- ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────┐ ║ the climate is changing because we've forgotten how to savor it. │ ║ │ ║ I don't get what the big deal is though?? like, if it changes enough, all │ ║ that'll happen is we'll all die. And everyone in the past has already done │ ║ that, so... it's fine? │ ║ │ ║ And yeah, we'll take everything else with us, but isn't that just the way of │ ║ things? You're falling from a ledge, you don't think about the roots of the │ ║ plant you're tearing up as you try to cling on. You don't think about the │ ║ anthill as you're digging a trench to hide from artillery in. You don't think │ ║ about the fish and sea-plants that your boats motor decimates close to the │ ║ shore. It's *natural* and *human* to despoil, we just do it instinctually. │ ║ │ ║ The trick is, we've built spontaneous systems of order wherever we've gone. │ ║ River-beds are made smooth by those who spend time fitting the rocks into │ ║ place. Mountains are made small by those who carve trails. Fallen trees │ ║ delight in our footfalls as we wander across them. Nature is our pet, our │ ║ baby, our plaything. Care for it. │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────┴───────────┘ --- #17 fediverse/688 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────────── @user-514 @user-515 when humanity is fully grown, we won't need all the resources on earth. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════────────────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #18 fediverse/5075 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────── it's kinda rude to tell a plant that their species is in decline. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════────────┴───────────┘ --- #19 fediverse/1726 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────── tell me again why goods and services are priced according to how easy they are to make, and not by how many more of them we could make considering the current estimated amount of resources on earth? even wood runs out, when the phosphorous is gone. but take heart, for human ingenuity brings with it ever-increasing capabilities for accessing new resources. when the sun goes silent, it will not be because it burnt out, but rather because we surrounded it with parts of our home. and yes, it is more complicated. "how easy they are to make compared to how much people want them while utilizing the cheapest and worst resources and craftsmanship that can be passed of as quality by shiny marketing that appeals to our vapid human senses" is a bit closer, but still not comprehensive. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #20 fediverse/5047 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────── food should be free. it grows on trees. who pays the trees? something-something-transportation-and-processing-and-packaging-infrastructure- mentioned ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════────────┴───────────┘ --- #21 fediverse/6336 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────── if the USA goes to war with venezuela and venezuela poisons their oil watering hole it'd just be empowering the other oil reserve extracting locations, not bringing us closer to sustainability via carbon sequestration. maybe nations shouldn't declare war unless the minor is declaring on the greater. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╧───────────┘ --- #22 fediverse/341 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────────────── solar energy is vegan you're not taking anything from the sun, just capturing it's natural expulsions. It's like... sun poop, and we're using it to post memes and hang out. okay food, emergency services, and... what else do we really need that consumes power? Obviously entertainment, but frankly without internet we'd probably keep to ourselves. I know I'd read a lot more books and chill out with my neighbors and whatnot. is that why similar people tend to live together? then why are cities so diverse? who can say... I dream of an ordered society, but frankly the kind that are most fun are the ones where a single person doesn't define their contents. Liberty, liberty, the freedom to be, and by god all men are created equal. the things we owe to one another are the things that bring order to a just and sane world. our future is blooming : ) ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧══════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #23 fediverse/4145 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────── @user-78 I do believe the earth is kind! I trust and honor that sacred belief as I would a vow. I try to be a good representative of the world! so I am kind. It's important to me. Much more than any career or job. And when I do work I am kind! Among other things like diligent and round. It makes sense to me because without cooperation, you have endless stagnation. And without competitition, you have ednless stagnation. Only together can their powers combine and fuse into the super-power of *coordination* which frankly is kind of a holy grail. For life itself. EDIT: so um earth and life are kind because they work together somehow?? I guess I was describing the soil cycle sorry /shrug ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #24 fediverse/2707 --- ══════════════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────── @user-1209 sometimes I feed the nearby wildlife, and sometimes I don't. I don't want them to grow reliant on me, but I want them to have a nice surprise every once in a while. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #25 fediverse/3731 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────── ┌────────────────────────────┐ │ CW: re: politics-mentioned │ └────────────────────────────┘ @user-1074 our stems are grown from the same nutrients, the same soil, the same climate but we blossom differently, and we should live in an ecosystem co-interactively. I don't really use labels that much. Hence why I clarified in the original post. I think they're primarily useful for academic purposes, not for organizational ones. At the end of the day, people are people, and we meet and greet in much the same way. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #26 fediverse/1764 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────────── Okay okay hear me out - but what if instead of pumping oil out of the ground, we shoved a bunch of tree trunks down there and let them marinate for a few thousand years ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #27 fediverse/3106 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────── @user-226 the earth is not overpopulated, just overutilized! we have the means to live sustainably and still progress technologically. there's little reason not to, as convenience is relative to the amount of work you're expected to output in a day. most waste comes from a need for convenience, I think. and sufficient output is possible if demanded work is reduced to a level where convenience is not needed to the degree that causes such waste. like, I'd rather live in a cave or treehouse with my computers than drive to work on the freeway every day. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #28 fediverse/937 --- ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────────┐ ║ @user-646 │ ║ │ ║ there are plastics that are (nearly) infinitely recyclable into the same (or a │ ║ similar) form │ ║ │ ║ there are plastics that are durable and built to last │ ║ │ ║ then there are cheap plastics, the kind that are useful for some kind of │ ║ industrial purpose but to make a little you kinda have to make a lot, and yeah │ ║ they pollute and are bad for the environment but we have a whole lot of them │ ║ made, so wouldn't it be cheaper to just use it for consumer products? │ ║ │ ║ hmmmm. why can't we just like... store it? and then scale down on production, │ ║ and focus on things that make less money but last longer. │ ║ │ ║ like, if you break shit, you shouldn't have more things. If everything's │ ║ expensive (and durable) then people spend less because their stuff doesn't │ ║ break. Or maybe they do break it, and then they're constantly broke! (out of │ ║ cash) │ ║ │ ║ [doesn't know what she's talking about from professional experience, just │ ║ basing her words on things she's read] │ ║ │ ║ problem is the economy is "healthier" if everyone's spending. thus, creating │ ║ infla │ ╠═════════╗ ┌───────────┤ ║ similar ║ chronological │ different │ ╚═════════╩════════════════════════════════────────────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #29 messages/1202 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════──────── Do you ever ask yourself why we don't have mountaintop bazaars or expeditions to the bottom of the oceans? Why we lack tree forest cities, how we're struggling to find moss, sunlight, crystal, stone, and gold, all in the same setting? Capitalism makes it easy to think of profit as all that matters. It's not. Its nothing of it. It's a metric like any other. Optimize it or not, struggle for what you believe in. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╧════───────┘ --- #30 fediverse/62 --- ═══════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────────────── remember when we were making progress on environmentalism? Kinda makes you wonder why we don't have many high profile environmentalists like Jane Goodall or Steve Irwin anymore. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧════════════════════════───────────────────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #31 fediverse/140 --- ═══════════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────────────────────── @user-132 100 years ago we didn't have computers. 1000 years ago we didn't have electricity. 10,000 years ago we didn't have agriculture. in 100 years will we have something new? in 1000 will we be somewhere new? in 10,000 will we be something new? perhaps... if only we don't neglect planet A. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧════════════════════════════───────────────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #32 messages/256 --- ════════════════════════════════════════════─────────────────────────────────────── I don't love nature because I want to be in it. I love nature because I believe it is important. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧═════════════════════════════════──────────────────────────┴───────────┘ --- #33 fediverse/5451 --- ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════────────────────── ┌──────────────────────┐ │ CW: pee-mentioned │ └──────────────────────┘ wildflowers and piss make pretty good soil. ┌─────────┐ ┌───────────┐ │ similar │ chronological │ different │ ╘═════════╧══════════════════════════════════════════════════════─────┴───────────┘