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║ @user-638 │
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║ In the 2000s when the Bush administration prevented people from working with │
║ stem cell research I remember my father going on rants about the same kind of │
║ thing. │
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║ "They're limiting our access to information and the future of humanity because │
║ of their religion!" that kind of thing │
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║ I loved listening to him. He was so passionate about that kind of thing. I │
║ think he got a little disillusioned sometime between now and then, because now │
║ he just tries to do the best he can with what tools he has available to him. │
║ And I love him for it. │
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║ He (mostly) abandoned his grand narratives because as the right got worse, the │
║ "left" sorta stayed the same, and he never forgave them for that. He still │
║ votes, and he'll still rant about that kind of thing, but only the stuff that │
║ affects him personally - like electric cars or cannabis or things like that. A │
║ democrat through and through. │
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║ He lives in a different country now, and I wish I could see him. But I cherish │
║ our phone calls and the few holidays when he visits. │
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I've never been a fan of the democrats. From a young age, I remember my father
talking about how spineless they were, and how cruel and shortsighted the
republicans were. I have since come to learn that democrats, as an economic
class, are also shortsighted, and their lack of foresight causes their
"triage" to have cruel effects. We could do so much better, and it's not
because everyone wants something different as they say. The reason is because
they are spineless. They don't want to rock the boat because they're afraid of
death. Remember, most of them are so thoroughly traumatized having lived in
the era of nuclear threat (which isn't over, I might add) and post-911
hysteria (which they contributed to, I might add) and it makes sense that they
act so conservatively. They feel such immense pressure to keep the ship
sailing but if your rigging is secure and you've got enough control over the
boat, you can pull down the sails and wait out the storm. T.T too bad j+j
I bet we were in love in the original timeline. The me from then was different
than the me from now, so I don't know if it could ever work out. Talk to me
after the war, maybe it'll toughen me up a bit.
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one of my most humbling political memories is getting in a fight with a kid at
school (okay, a heated argument) because he said republicans lower taxes and I
thought democrats did.
turns out we were both right, because one of our dads had money.
gotta raise taxes for public services, and well inflation's just a fact of
life y'know, at least stuff doesn't cost as much as way back when.
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I want the political right to exist, because otherwise there'd be nothing to
talk about a couple beers in and with no real stakes except a good time with
your friend who you disagree with
I want the political right to exist, because, y'know, life liberty and justice
for all and all that
both of those are "left of center" takes and I've definitely held both at
different parts of my life
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║ republicans are upset because they think democrats are *so mean* │
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║ they don't understand why we're so intense about this election... or the one │
║ before │
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║ they don't ever really think about what losing democracy means │
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║ "democracy... that's where we vote, right? That's a democrat thing, I don't │
║ really like their way of doing things. Whatever *our* way is, is probably │
║ better." │
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║ meanwhile everyone has a friend from high school who ran off to the mountains │
║ to learn how to farm or hunt as a pack │
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║ (with rifles and weed, of course) │
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║ you can get a lot done if you just... spend your whole life working. Like most │
║ humans did for most of our existence. │
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║ well, except for that period where we were the tribe of tribes. That was │
║ probably a highlight TBH because we mostly just chilled out, danced in public, │
║ ate blueberries and munched seeds... It was idyllic. Truly, the garden of │
║ eden. There was music and laughter in the air *everywhere*, in all places that │
║ humans did wander on earth. │
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║ what a thing to aspire to. │
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@user-901
I'd do the same thing when I was on Reddit. Except, backwards - I'd argue with
American conservatives (nobody more extreme than that) politely and kindly,
using logic and empathy. I'd cite their sacred documents like the bible, the
constitution, or even just the founding fathers.
I don't know if I ever changed any minds, but I represented my ideas as
honestly and clearly as I could. I can't help but hope that some people saw
them and considered them. Sometimes all it takes is a push, and they'll start
thinking on their own. Like a thought that doesn't go away, they can't quite
forget how they couldn't find the lie in what you spoke.
Or maybe I wanted to believe my actions had value. Post-hoc justification. Who
can say. At least my intentions were honest.
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politicians appeal to certain segments of the population. That's just how
they're designed. They're meant to be reflections of your hopes. We shouldn't
demand them to be moral, or kind - they should just do what we want them to.
That is the spirit of democracy, that we the people should decide.
... a lot of people watch reality TV though, like... all day every day
and a lot of people listen to fox news and such
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║ politics is not about being right, it's about convincing the majority to vote │
║ how you want │
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║ in America, the majority is white, working class people who go to church and │
║ don't really get to think about much beyond their own lives. │
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║ sometimes they think of their home, the city they live in / near │
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║ sometimes they think of their country, their religion │
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║ and sometimes they hear about what happens in other places, usually through │
║ the tube that connects the panel in their scenes to the offices of hardworking │
║ ~~journalists and reporters~~ sorry it's 2024 now - *pundits and celebrities* │
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║ those people don't hear what you hear on the internet. To them, it is a place │
║ of memes, funny gifs, and whatever their close friends are talking about on │
║ Facebook. │
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║ we uh, don't use Facebook much these days, do we? Mostly because Facebook is │
║ actively hostile to us. │
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║ But nobody said our enemies would be kind. │
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║ Who are your enemies? Mine is *power*. At this moment in history, money is │
║ power. We will see how long that lasts, won't we? │
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@user-1126
Yes, I have very little faith in the democratic process in my country.
Unfortunately, while democracy is crucial to fair, honest, and just
representation, as you said it's unlikely that democracy would be allowed to
exist if it threatened the power of the powerful.
Thus, our twisted form that sorta works, but requires a LOT of effort and a
LOT of maintenance. More than the average person can give.
They've tuned it to be JUST dysfunctional enough to overwhelm our natural
innate tendencies to contribute to "the tribe of tribes", while leaving it
just functional enough such that if you work your ass off with ALL of the
people who agree with you, then MAYBE you might get a measure on the ballot
for something insignificant (which won't pass, because why would it?)
I have faith in people, not the democratic process, for I have faith in
democracy, but not the process.
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Republicans like being self-reliant. You know, so I do too! It comes from
living in the country, I think.
the difference is, I measure myself on an abstract scale - like, as a family,
a culture, a society, and finally all of humanity. I want to be reliant on
nothing, not even nature, wholely empowered by my own arts.
they see only the feet before them, the hands they hold the world with.
..
there is honor in their ideals, but they have forgotten who they once were.
social media will do that to ya. especially one of such vitriol.
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║ "capitalism brings real value into the world" says my father, in my words, the │
║ millionaire who lost his retirement to the jaws of 2008 and its "recession" │
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║ "oh the people are having too much fun, let's recede back to a more plaintive │
║ state" │
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║ when we raised cattle on the farm I grew up on, we produced enough meat to │
║ feed our friends and family. That was enough. That was more than enough. They │
║ gave us whatever they made, and it worked out. Everyone could specialize, and │
║ everyone got fed, with plenty to spare. │
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║ then, wanderlust tempted him, and we lost what we had. I'm not bitter - I know │
║ now that place would have kept me and never let me go. But I still miss it. │
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║ "you know, you can do projects and make companies of workers who do projects │
║ and bring real value into the world even if you live in the middle of the │
║ desert" │
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║ ah but what if nobody really socializes outside of their church and your │
║ family happens to be atheist? │
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║ ... ha, ironic. Well, they deserve to have their own culture. │
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║ │ It turns out a lot of Democratic voters kinda hate George Bush, Dick │ │
║ │ Cheney, and Liz Cheney, actually? They're leery of cops. There was that │ │
║ │ whole BLM thing? They're alarmed by the idea of having the most deadly │ │
║ │ military on Earth. What is it for? Oh, and Israel? We're going to back │ │
║ │ Israel to the hilt even as it exterminates children. Nobody signed up │ │
║ │ for that. Who thought that was a good idea? │ │
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║ │ A bunch of white people in expensive suits, probably. The same ones │ │
║ │ celebrating "the Biden Boom." │ │
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║ @user-1074 │
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║ yep... Though I think debate can also get in the way. │
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║ I think we should *act* to improve the people's lives. Debate should teach, it │
║ should guide, but it should not prevent. │
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║ There are more than enough resources for everyone. If you waste them, debate │
║ can decide when you get more to use. │
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║ Much the same way that our Northern American democracy utilizes │
║ representatives in order to distance the decision making from the decision │
║ deciding, so too should be separate the empowered people acting for the good │
║ of all from those who decide who are good. │
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║ Power must be *earned*, it must be *deserved*, and it must be eventually │
║ *relinquished*. That is the sacred duty of those who wield power - to use it │
║ honorably, and give it away. │
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║ we should not debate things that are not mutable. We should not waste time │
║ complaining about how *annoying* other people are. *who gives a shit if she │
║ wears a dress.* │
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║ we should not debate our human rights. Like bodily autonomy. *it's her uterus.* │
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Damage of the legislature may be healed. But damage to people's lives who have
lost their jobs for no reason of their own and because jobs are tied to your
living in this country, people who have lost their jobs have lost their way of
life. Suddenly, their life must be changed. And they deserve the liberty to
feel in control of that.
When enough said is enough, when people have gathered en masse in the streets,
there has to be a reckoning. We must decide how to proceed as a culture.
Nation. Any kind of organization. We are who we choose to be, and frankly I
just don't see promise in the darkness. I yearn for a bold, bright future, not
one of destruction and disaster-race. Instead, we can seek joy in the
memories, and share what we keep in balance.
Our foes have cursed us with no end in heartbreak and struggle. But that's
okay. We can rebuild that part of ourselves, we just have to make it on faith.
Do you believe in each other? I do. I know you believe in you, too.
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@user-1074
exactly!
something immoral like not voting against fascism!
... okay maybe not the best example, but yes I agree you should only lose
freedom if you demonstrably hurt people. And that freedom should not take with
it your right to a happy, healthy, and safe life with community and love.
Innocent until *proven* guilty becomes a lot easier with global surveillance,
but with global surveillance there can be no unethical actions. And sometimes,
to escape local minima, unethical actions are required.
Though I'd rather build a ladder to climb out of a pit than a drill-dozer that
explores through the graph.
... these days it kinda feels like drills are our only option, though. I feel
less so that way after Kamala Harris became the presumptive nominee over Biden.
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democrats want the kind of society that Joe Biden represents. that's who
they're voting for - the memories of life as it was for their grandparents.
people vote for Trump because they're sick of living in the same country as
these other people who don't feel just like them.
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democracy as it was currently conceptualized dates back from a time when it
was impossible to ask every person every question all at the same time. We
needed time to talk through and get to know a topic before we made any choices
about it. Hence, single-party voting, and the build-up of disagreement when
people feel like the one thing they care about is not implemented. Too bad
they care about things like, bodily autonomy and human rights.
Maybe we could appease them by giving them something else that they want
Oh? Like trans people?
No brad, like the russians
Or maybe the rich, ya?
goodness. how about nobody
[appeasement never goes anywhere]
[the issue is more fundamental than compromise]
[human rights are not up for discussion]
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║ republicans break things until you fight back, democrats keep people working │
║ to keep the line steady on the graph. │
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║ one is an agitating force, the other is calming. │
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║ I don't like the direction the line is going, so I'm pretty much "anti-line" │
║ in general │
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║ kinda want it all to disappear │
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║ like... what's the point, what's the purpose, of suffering and heartship and │
║ worrel? │
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║ I think we could have no borders, and think less of the line in general. │
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║ I'm more concerned with my time. I have too much to do to spend 8 hours of it │
║ so many times making the human computer calculgoable │
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║ [unrelated, but humans are unsure about gender transition hormones because in │
║ addition to all the trans people who take these body and mind altering tools, │
║ also there are people who want to excape suspicion and also people who are │
║ genuinely incapable of their decisions (for one reason or another) and who am │
║ I to tell them no] │
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║ unrelated, but I think society, the human computer, is cool. [see picture for │
║ the rest - ran outta characters] │
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republicans will just... lie to you and you expect them to tell the truth.
"when asked a question, they didn't answer. Also, they said fuck you."
they don't have to tell *you* the truth.
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║ │ My hypothetical grandchildren: why didn't you revolt if wealth │ │
║ │ inequality was off the charts, working conditions were hellish and the │ │
║ │ ecosystem was collapsing? │ │
║ │ Me (old): we definitely thought about it, we even started to action it. │ │
║ │ Every time we did someone employed by the government would claim we had │ │
║ │ 'serf anxiety' and make us sit in a room counting breaths. │ │
║ │ Grandchild: and that... Worked? Seriously? You started counting shit in │ │
║ │ a little room instead of fighting for the last bit of earth we had left? │ │
║ │ Me (old): Sorry │ │
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║ a significant proportion of the population is dumb as bricks, which is a fact │
║ that our foes wield with cruelty in mind. │
║ │
║ it's not their fault, they can change, but sometimes there's just no time. our │
║ doors are always open, here sit next to me on this couch. I hope you don't │
║ mind if I deprive you of power before I supply kindness, though. │
║ │
║ requires a bit of trust. Or, to be backed into a corner and forced to do so. I │
║ guess we should get good at cornering. │
║ │
║ if you're a liberal reading this, remember that leftists *know more than you*. │
║ That's okay. You are an expert too, but now is our forte, so please just │
║ listen for a few. │
║ │
║ and always keep in mind the lessons of the past. Before, our kindest, bravest, │
║ and most learned were the most passionate who threw themselves toward the │
║ cause. │
║ │
║ then the soviet union happened, because everyone who was capable of building a │
║ better world was slain first. (though the cold war didn't help) │
║ │
║ before WW2 Russia was basically Somalia. After, it sacrificed itself to │
║ contest USA │
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║ There are no safe countries. The far right is watching us as a predator │
║ watches prey. Do you fight, or do you die when there's nowhere left to run to? │
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║ I am committing sedition as we speak. Best case scenario I face prison time, │
║ worst case I am buried in the same grave as all of you. But I think there's a │
║ route somewhere in our future that involves a brilliant spark of hope. A │
║ future where we build the world we want for our children and theirs. │
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║ I give myself to you, use me as you will. This is your chance to save the │
║ world. │
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║ If you have kids, it is not cowardice to leave, but please consider leaving to │
║ a blue state. We'll need you, and your kids deserve a good life with us. │
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║ Children belong with grand-parents. Perhaps not yours, but someone good that │
║ can be trusted. If theyre too young to advocate for themselves, keep them by │
║ your side. │
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║ Listen to them when you spend moments with them. Ask them if theyre being │
║ abused. Nothing will harm them so long as we hear them. Be in public parks. │
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somebody once told me I was an "asset for liberty" and I took that to heart.
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║ @user-1074 │
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║ I think a lot of liberals feel that way. How does the conservative half of the │
║ equally respectable binary spectrum feel about the situation? │
║ │
║ ... Oh? what's that? you can't hear the moderate conservative spectrum of the │
║ equation? Kinda makes me think that perhaps that's by design │
║ │
║ ... or maybe not, perhaps by... evolution, rather than design. Like, two │
║ corporations don't have to collaborate in order to invent price fixing. And │
║ two lawyers could wink from across the aisle and nobody would know. Perhaps a │
║ doctor could just "make something up" so that their patient would leave, and │
║ maybe a teacher would non-stop cry about her ex. │
║ │
║ ... we're imperfect beings, which is fine. But mistakes have real consequences │
║ on other people's story, and if we have a different experience we should be │
║ learned and considered. In order to identify the positives and valuable │
║ impacts of your particular imperfections. │
║ │
║ ... I think about male and female, and I think of both halves of our │
║ civilization. Similar relationshi │
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conservatives expect things to never get better.
progressives never know where they are.
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political action to a gen-Xer and above tends to feel like activism and
political involvement.
To a millenial it feels like disaster preparedness. For a zoomer it feels like
nihilism. I wonder what's next, growth and renewal?
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most people have *no* idea what's going on in politics. Absolutely no
conception. It's all just "good/bad thing happened today, here's how the
pundits feel about it" it's literally scenery to them.
why would they care? nothing changes for them.
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we don't let children vote.
nor do we let felons vote, theoretically those who harm our society (pick one,
no voting or no prison? I vote no prison industrial complex)
nor do we let non-citizens vote, for why should they tell us how to live? they
are not us, they shall not control us
nor do we let kings vote with the weight of a god, for a king is a singular
point of failure
if you can consent to sex, you are physically capable to vote. if you're
mislead by the propaganda of an abusive spouse, you are hurting your future
self by staying. [all media is propaganda that you are not immune to]
all men are created equal, and yet his dollar is worth a bit more than hers.
all of us here are equal, because we all want the bright future and a blessed
life.
we'll make this world better, using our own hands according to our own demands
and in pursuit of our own plans.
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║ politics is basically just "which politician archetype annoys you more?" │
║ which, like, could we maybe have politicians who aren't annoying? │
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║ oh right they do that on purpose. Makes for a better spectacle. Gotta keep the │
║ people in line, or else *who knows* what they might get up to. Maybe they'll │
║ build a house! Maybe they'll tear it down! Maybe they'll throw a party! Maybe │
║ they'll stay afterwards to clean up! Maybe they'll grow their own food! Enough │
║ for all to share! Maybe they'll air their dirty laundry, out where everyone │
║ can hear! Maybe they'll sit around and fart while eating cheetos! Maybe │
║ they'll work twice as hard because their work is their own! Maybe they'll │
║ laugh at the losers who tried to claim that they could master the fate of an │
║ entire domain, and maybe they'll simply go insane. │
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║ Who can say! None but the fools, surely, surely the system is too arcane, │
║ surely our way is better, surely their way is deranged. │
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║ Oh! Poverty! How it comes for ye, whenever you choose to step out of line │
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Ideology is not important right now.
As long as we believe that people should live as they define, that their
rights end where another's begin, that all people are created equal, that an
application of power to a non-consenting subject is evil, and that we will win
then nothing else matters. We will figure out the specifics later. They are
just logistics. We are united in our shared dream of health and prosperity for
all mankind. What else could there be?
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I'm proud of my parent's generation for having a good lifetime. The end is
getting a little weird, but we're working on it. It'll get better soon.
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every leftist should have a pilgrimage to conservative lands. In times of
peace, this is valid. in times of war... less so. but, the first one to cause
harm is dealt an increasing blow, back and forth until one wears thin. not
ideal. or, one is led to peace, where they benefit from each other's helping
arms.
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║ the people who are farthest into a belief (political or otherwise) they tend │
║ to believe they are the "vanguard" or "leaders" of such a movement. │
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║ but that isn't necessarily so. Perhaps it is those who have more resources, │
║ those who are most prepared and ready to go? sometimes you're distracted, │
║ sometimes ignor-ed. │
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║ just being most ardent of belief doesn't necessarily mean that you are the │
║ strongest. The quickest. The wittiest. The most prepared. The most capable. │
║ The most connected. The most guided. The clearest choice, nor the only option. │
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║ It just means that you are truest in your heart, and that others should look │
║ to you, who are an expert in what you are, for guidance on topics such as │
║ "defeating fascism" or "unlearning capitalist patriarchy" or "how to identify │
║ certain types of bees" or whatever totally random specialty you have. │
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║ ... in the morning, you'll look back on the sins of the past night and think │
║ "wow that was wild, sure glad I'm a different person now. Gotta start │
║ cleaning. Get things done" │
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when I get concerned about the political divide in my country, I think about
this map from the New York Times of the number of political donations across
the country before the 2016 democratic primaries.
I think we're gonna be fine. I'm not scared of Trump because rural areas,
where republicans tend to be, have the same problems that everyone else does.
Bernie Sanders was well known as someone who could talk to an average
republican voter and sway them to his side. I remember watching videos of his
interviews (in front of a live audience) on Fox News or CNN or whatever and at
first, they'd be hostile to him. At the end, they'd give him a standing
ovation.
I think we have more in common with other working class people than they do
with their republican leaders. I also think we have more in common than them
than we do with our democratic leaders, but I think that just shows how I feel
about authority.
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